Laying the draw experiment....

Union game could be 0-0

so you're not laying 0-0 from kick off you're laying in-play if no goals? doubt you'll find any match where 0-0 starts as low as 5 to lay

sorry... mixed you up with the 0-0 layer.

tired... shame you can't just remove comments like facebook lol

ha ha match odds not correct score. well that 0-0 comment about union berlin and that i just read greuter have 2 strikers out means im gonna delay my start till 7pm. gonna look at dutch 2nd division. i'll post before it kicks off anyway. and my in game trades

Union Berlin at home had 8 victory, 1 draw and 3 losses, as for Dusiburg away they had 2 victories 4 draws and 6 losses, i doubt that they can hold Union out especially when they still have a chance for the playoffs, that's just my take on this match.  its a difficult match to bet on, why dont you lay the draw Napoli vs Cagliari

As the historical stats from betfair markets show that the price for the draw is on average too big, should you not be backing it instead of laying it?

Union Berlin- MSV Duisburg 1,75    4,20 5,40 89% 5% 6%

lots of love for Union

do u lay the draw after the odds have gone down or at kick off, might as well wait after halftime and lay 0-0. There is risk of under dog scoring first as well.

althought the odds are a little lower than what i usually like, ive laid the draw in the paderborn match at 3.85. liability 99.98 for 35.08 profit. i'll post my trades as i do them

good luck face off guy

at what time or odds do you trade out for a loss? or do you just let it ride ?.

ive traded out at 2. ive lost £31.78 across the board.

balance: £68.22

This was how I first got into trading. I actually made a decent profit at first but ultimately it's a waste of time.

You're relying on the favourite scoring first otherwise you're in for a long, uncomfortable 90 minutes. In which case, why not just back the favourite outright?

As with everything it CAN be a decent bet if well researched, but going in you're only going to lose money if you go in gung ho on every game.

laid £68.20 on helmond at 5 for £17.05

,NyronNosworthy

exactly because if theres an early goal second half you will be trading for a smaller loss , so hardly trading if your sweating on a late goal that may not come . a goal may well come and good luck to you if it does ,but you have got to take the bad with the good , red out at 60 mins .

i'm out of the furth game btw 8 quid in front but at 1-0 rather take that than lose 94

Bet all that love for union has turned to hate .

i changed it to roda jc. same odds though

any trades yet? 0-1 and draw at 3.4?
Pray the score stays the same or pray vvv grab another on the break!

no, no trades, roda scored just after ht and made it 2-1 before the draw odds got to 2. then vvv had a man sent off so i stayed in until the death.

Balance: £84.62

see what tomorrow brings

Ok,  I'll follow this thread and see how ya go.

The maximum odds i will lay is 5

you've got it wrong from the start.

why is that please? what would you suggest?

When I lay the draw I usually try to lay at 3.0 or less and always in play.

You lay at 5 or even 4 you have to have the fav score or your in the sh!te ie the draw will then be down to below 3.8 if the outsider scores.
Thats been pointed out above, when I did it when I first joined here it was at 3.5 at the highest and even then if you have a goal you have to have some idea what the draw should then be to get a value price when you back the draw.

For instance 00.30 tonight.
Estudiantes v Lanus

2.44
3.7
3.1

Never a great idea to LTD in Argentina.

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I know what you mean but I was talking more about the shape of the odds. I know its 0-0 land.

have tried this system extensively in the past and its a waste of time. its a real slow burner, and in the end profit margins are too small and easily evaporate when a couple of trades go against you.

1-0

right, back for some more abuse. gonna try get on the dusseldorf game at 5. £84.62 for £21.15 profit

missed the 5 as the dog has taken the lead. still gone in though at 3.95 for £28.68

i  LTD on FSV FRANKFURT - 1860 MUNICH game

gooooaaal

i think 1 more before HT

1-1 after 22 mins. should be plenty more goals in this

hope so because i didn t trade in time

Layed the draw in the Sassuolo game (2pm) @2.94.

3 0-0 in the last 6 matches for sassuolo

I'll be out long before FT.

you will trade without any goals??

yep.

you think it will go up in the beggining of the game?

Not really, i'll be watching the prices in play and when its value to get out I will if no goal.

ok i ll watch out of curiocity...good luck

looking like a draw this. gonna get out at 2

3-1 boom!!! will trade now

removed all liability. £27.83 profit on dusseldorf

theres a german game at half 2 i like the look of and 2 english ones. i'll post at kick off

laid £111.11 on Mgladbach draw at 4.7 for £30.03

out@2

when u say out at 2 do you mean when draw is 2.0 or 2-0?

when the draw is 2. out at 2 in gladbach match. lost 40 across the board.

new balance £70.60

onto the next at 5pm

as soon as i start a thread on this i do fu cking terrible at it!!

60mins@2.00

Bressica 1 min goal made up for it

And thats why you get out as fast as poss 1-1

sorry been watching 'Amelie'. laid £70.59 on the sociedad draw for £24.34 profit. 2-0 up. sorry im not after timing. im gonna do the dutch match at 6;45 then madrid at 9pm

traded at 1.01. won £22.52

balance £94.53

laid on heracles match at 4 for £31.51 profit

laid ado at 1.01 for £30.57

Balance £123.65

laid £123.62 on madrid draw at 4.8. £32.53 profit on each side

traded at 1.01 for £31.29 profit

balance: £153.47

I have been tracking the results of backing the FTS (Lay The Draw) picks, and excluding commission, after 54 matches you would be in profit 5.3 points (9.8%). That would be quite an impressive strike rate if finding the draw was the aim.

pointless thread

just write a diary instead mate

Best not to do this at all. LTD was an excellent strategy a few years back, when value-priced draws were easy to find. These days it's just not the moneyspinner it was.

ok i'll stop now. was only for a bit of fun. fu ckin hate this forum!!

ok then!!! i won £18.88 on vancouver v montreal pi ssed up last night, so new balance is £172.34.

laid it all on psv draw at 4.9 for £44.19 profit

backed the draw at 9.4. £23.19 profit.

next game valencia at 3pm

I started with this system one month ago with 40E betting 2 games every day. I made a profit of 31E. That s 75% of my original amount. I think thats not bad so I m planing to continue, raising the stakes a little bit.