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tobermory
09 Feb 12 18:54
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Redknapp 1.73 Bentitez 150
Pearce 9.2 Ferguson 150
Hodgson 11.5 Wenger 150
Hiddink 12 Shearer 200
Mourinho 18.5 Beckham  200
O'Neill 34 Hughes 200
Pardew 80 Pulis 200
Southgate 100 Guardiola 200
Allardyce 100 Ancelotti 200
Moyes 100 Rodgers 200
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Report tobermory February 9, 2012 6:55 PM GMT
Someone backed Southgate @34 Crazy
Report Crisp77 February 9, 2012 7:02 PM GMT
Lay Redknapp. He won't pass the medical.
Report berto77 February 9, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
PP have already paid out on 'arry. Plain
Report tobermory February 9, 2012 7:07 PM GMT
Think they just wanted to make it up to 20 with that list

Redknapp looks good to me there. There are only 5 or 6 on the list that would not have everyone seething if they were chosen .Ferguson,Wenger and Guardiola surely won't go mear it and maybe a saver on Mourinho . Hiddink maybe a bit past it, Turkey were awful in qualifiers
Report GoBallistic February 9, 2012 7:09 PM GMT
Remember folks that Harry doesn't even know how to use a computer so this market should be safe to play on
Report I_McHunt_Pro-Punter February 9, 2012 7:10 PM GMT
WHERE IS ROY KEANE IN THE BETTING ?

THE FA NORMALLY GO FOR A YES MAN THAT WILL TOW THE LINE, ROY KEANE WOULD FIT THAT KIND OF PROFILE.
Report tobermory February 9, 2012 7:10 PM GMT
Grin
Report ILoveLateGoals February 9, 2012 7:12 PM GMT
Will be Stuart Pearce
Report tobermory February 9, 2012 7:14 PM GMT
Pearce just seen as a failure at Man City, worse CV by far than anyone ever appointed
Report tobermory February 9, 2012 8:05 PM GMT
Redknapp 1.58 Wenger 150
Pearce 9.4 Guardiola 200
Hiddink 15 Benitez 200
Hodgson 21 Shearer 200
Mourinho 30 Pulis  200
O'Neill 44 Ancelotti 200
Allardyce 100 Beckham 200
Southgate 100 Rodgers 250
Pardew 150 Hughton 300
Moyes 150 Hughes 300
Ferguson 150 Jewell 300



Pail Jewell added, why not Glenn Roeder
Report Crisp77 February 9, 2012 8:10 PM GMT
£100 on Sir Alex.
Report tobermory February 9, 2012 8:16 PM GMT
Mourinho seems a decent bet at those odds.

If he leaves Madrid i could see him signing a 4 year deal, taking them to Brazil, walking out after 2

One thing i think likely is that he will make it known through his contacts that he will consider it (even if he isn't, just to keep himself in the limelight and piss off people in Madrid) so unless it is sorted quickly i expect he'll be dow n to well under 10/1
Report GoBallistic February 9, 2012 10:04 PM GMT
First things first: the market rules

It looks like the only way Betfair wouldn't settle on the guy who picks the team for the first Euro 2012 game would be if that person was described as a temporary / interim manager AND the FA had also appointed a permanent manager (starting autumn 2012) by that point. There is no way the market can run past mid-June. Have I read that right ?

I'm thinking someone to do just the Euros initially would be the most sensible appointment but then this is the FA so maybe bet the opposite
Report tobermory February 9, 2012 10:26 PM GMT
1.Subject to paragraph 2, an appointment described by the English FA as ‘interim’, ‘caretaker’, ‘temporary’ or similar, including an appointment limited to the build-up and/or the duration of the UEFA Euro 2012 Tournament, will not constitute national coach.

2. Notwithstanding paragraph 1, if the English FA do not appoint the next national coach before England’s Euro 2012 game against France on 11 June 2012, Betfair will settle this market on the person who is responsible for picking the English National Team against France on 11 June 2012, even if that person has been appointed by the English FA on an ‘interim’, ‘caretaker’, ‘temporary’ or similar basis, including an appointment limited to the build-up and/or the duration of the UEFA Euro 2012 Tournament. However, in the circumstances described in this paragraph 2, if England’s Euro 2012 game against France scheduled for 11 June 2012 is postponed by more than 3 days, all bets on this market will be void.

3. The actual duration of the national coach’s contract will not be relevant for the purpose of this market.





They will settle on whoever picks the team v France unless they have already chosen someone to take over after the Euros

So the only way that would arise would be if they said Pearce will take charge for the Euros only, then Harry takes over in August.

I can't see how they would go into a major tournament with a caretaker who has already been ruled out long term.
Report GoBallistic February 9, 2012 10:54 PM GMT
Yeah seems unlikely that para 1 will apply - only exception I can think of would be if the long term target is unavailable in June (i.e. he currently manages one of the other qualifiers - probably with his contract coming to an end and other teams interested)

Is there any reason why a currently employed manager such as Redknapp couldn't do the Euros and then go back to the day job ?
Report tobermory February 9, 2012 11:20 PM GMT
Could do that yeah. If he made it clear he was only doing the Euros he'd be settled as a loser
Report mafeking February 9, 2012 11:51 PM GMT
spurs are certainly not gonna agree to letting arry do the euros to see if he fancies it on permanent basis.

need to know whether we need another manager by may not august
Report tobermory February 10, 2012 12:34 AM GMT
Actually what i said at 23:20 is rubbish.

Even if the manager for the France game is a caretaker , he would be the winner , unless they had appointed someone to be permanent manager after the Euros .
Report skipthatstep February 10, 2012 5:51 AM GMT
Pearce has already got a job this summer... Ruining GB's chances at the Olympics.
Report sageform February 10, 2012 8:21 AM GMT
Can Spurs take out an injunction to prevent the FA from talking to Harry? They can do so against other clubs. Leaving aside what is likely to happen, as a Spurs and Redknapp fan, I would prefer him to stay put but also think his health could prevent him from doing either job for much longer. The total silence and stony face from Sir Trevor Brooking yesterday suggests that the FA have not learned to consult with ex-players in all this. The suits still don't believe that ex or current players have a view.
Report Sergei_Rebrofl February 10, 2012 8:43 AM GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj7Gtwbvciw

The man currently in charge of the top managerial job in England, ladies and gentleman. This is why the world laughs at us.
Report tobermory February 10, 2012 3:07 PM GMT
Redknapp 1.48 Ferguson 150
Pearce 9 Pardew 160
Hiddink 15 Wenger 170
Hodgson 24 Hughton 200
Mourinho 40 Beckham 200
O'Neill 46 Ancelotti 260
Benitez 65 Guardiola 350
Shearer 65 Pulis 370
Allardyce 75 Hughes 400
Moyes 95 Rodgers 400
Southgate 140 Jewell 600
Report mafeking February 10, 2012 3:09 PM GMT
apparently sir trev and arry are not exactly best mates. goes back to when arry took over wist ham when billy bonds left.
Report Mariner Paul February 10, 2012 3:55 PM GMT
I don't understand the price here. Redknapp has already stated that he'd like to manage England one day. I doubt he'd get another chance. Most Spurs fans have already accepted that he's a goner. He's a shoe in.
Report RMB © February 10, 2012 4:05 PM GMT
Boring market. People will be looking to find reasons to lay Harry but its the worlds worst kept secret, he wants the job, they want him, just about crossing the i's and dotting the t's. Harry knows he is over achieving at Spurs so this is the perfect time to leave for an early retirement.
Report neilthered20 February 10, 2012 4:20 PM GMT
If they are going to pick a permanent manager then surely it has to be before season ends so he can have a look at a few players that may interest him,otherwise its going to be same old faces
Report johnners February 10, 2012 4:51 PM GMT
I make you right Crisp77. A bloke who had major heart surgery as recently as he has must be about Even money to pass medical. Remember Asa Hartford.
Report flat16 February 10, 2012 5:02 PM GMT
dont know what the salary is for the england job ,but are there any cash bonuses
Report Chief_Inspector_Wiggum February 10, 2012 5:07 PM GMT
Berti Vogts for me
Report FOYLESWAR February 10, 2012 6:33 PM GMT
john barnes has said hes interested
Report tobermory February 10, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
They may as well add Barnes if Jewell is in there.
Report jmat February 11, 2012 8:14 AM GMT
John Terry as player manager but obviously not captain
Report Mariner Paul February 11, 2012 10:09 AM GMT
I've just been taking a look at those who are stacked up behind Harry in the market.

Stuart Pearce - Tactically inept.
Guus Hiddink - Foreign.
Roy Hodgson - No comment.
Jose Mourinho - Foreign.
Martin O'Neill - Foreign.
Alan Pardew - Laughably ruled himself out. Thanks for that!
Arsene Wenger - Foreign.
Gareth Southgate - LaughLaughLaugh
Tony Pulis - Should be 1000.
Rafa Benitez - Foreign.
Carlo Ancelloti - Foreign.
David Moyes - Foreign.
Pep Gaurdiola - Foreign.
Brendan Rogers - Foreign.
Alan Shearer - Dull.

If you rule out another foreigner then the competition is very weak. Redknapp should just take the job now.
Report Silk_St_John February 12, 2012 5:31 AM GMT
What price John Sitton?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obixCOVTVwY
Report tobermory February 13, 2012 1:35 AM GMT
Redknapp 1.38 Allardyce 120
Hiddink 14.5 Renard 120
Pearce 15.5 Pulis 150
Hodgson 23 Beckham 150
O'Neill 36 Wenger 170
Mourinho 46 Ferguson 200
Benitez 90 Southgate 210
Shearer 95 Hughton 210
Pardew 95 Ancelotti 400
Moyes 100 Rodgers 500
Guardiola 100 Hughes 500
Jewell 1000 - -
Report tobermory February 15, 2012 10:48 PM GMT
Redknapp 1.39 Ferguson 200
Guardiola 12 Benitez 250
Pearce 21 Ancelotti 350
Hodgson 26 Beckham 350
Hiddink 34 Hughton 350
O'Neill 60 McCarthy 350
Mourinho 70 Rodgers 400
Southgate 110 Renard 500
Allardyce 120 Pulis 500
Shearer 140 Hughes 500
Moyes 150 P Taylor 1000
Pardew 160 Jewell 1000
Wenger 160 - -



Quite a move for Guardiola. Not sure if Taylor or McCarthy the funnier addition.
Report tambhoy5 February 16, 2012 3:07 AM GMT
might as well let me do it and save you 5 million a year Laugh
Report grumpyjim February 16, 2012 8:52 AM GMT
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Report new born February 16, 2012 12:27 PM GMT
Every1 knows Rednapp wants the job......Every1 wants him to take the job.....1.4 BIG BIG price.
Report tobermory February 29, 2012 3:14 AM GMT
not much happening here .Harry does look overwhelmingly likely but the fact they still have not just given it to him makes me wonder if they are trying to put a case together for someone else.

Redknapp 1.45 Ferguson 200
Pearce  8.6 Shearer 250
Guardiola 13 Pulis 300
Hodgson 22 Beckham 300
Mourinho 44 Hughton 500
Wenger 70 McCarthy 500
Benitez 100 Rodgers 500
Hiddink 100 Hughes 500
O'Neill 150 Ancelotti 600
Pardew 150 Renard 1000
Moyes 150 P Taylor 1000
Southgate 200 Jewell 1000
Allardyce 200 - -
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Report berto77 February 29, 2012 8:41 AM GMT
More likely they don't want to upset Spurs mid season.  The ever loyal Pearce has probably talked himself up for the Euros in an effort to make it look like there is an alternative and buy the FA some time.  (He's made it clear he doesn't want the job long term).

I would be amazed if Redknapp isn't in charge for France.  Even if he then decides to stay with Spurs long term (which I doubt but he suggested).

1.45 is still pretty good value imo.
Report skipthatstep February 29, 2012 11:11 AM GMT
Guardiola 3rd fav?? at 12-1.... Never ever gonna happen!!
Report berto77 February 29, 2012 11:30 AM GMT
I know.  If I had a big enough bank, I'd be laying that with every pound I had!  Shows the total lack of candidates.  If I was picking an outside it would be Wenger at 70.
Report tobermory February 29, 2012 9:19 PM GMT
Pearce was 6.4~8.2 just 10 minutes ago

Surely 20+ by FT
Report tobermory March 12, 2012 10:52 PM GMT
Big drift on Harry now

Redknapp 1.70 Allardyce 130
Hodgson 8.2 Ferguson 160
Pearce 8.6 Rodgers 200
Guardiola 20 Beckham 310
Mourinho 24 Pulis 450
Wenger 44 Ancelotti 600
O'Neill 46 McCarthy 700
Moyes  50 Hughes 700
Shearer 55 Hughton 700
Southgate 80 Renard 1000
Benitez 80 P Taylor 1000
Pardew 100 Jewell 1000
Hiddink 100 - -
Report tobermory April 30, 2012 1:42 AM BST
At last some action in the dullest ever manager market

Hodgson 1.24 Curbishley 600
Redknapp 6.6 Ferguson 600
Pearce 32 McCarthy 600
Guardiola 60 Hughes 600
Pardew 70 Pulis 600
O'Neill 100 Ancelotti 600
Mourinho 150 Hughton 600
Wenger  200 Hiddink 600
Hoddle 200 Allardyce 600
Southgate 200 Renard 1000
Benitez 250 Beckham 1000
Moyes 300 P Taylor 1000
Shearer 500 Jewell 1000
Rodgers 600 - -


I do remember in 2006 when the FA leaked that Mclaren was going to get it, the reaction was so overwhelmingly negative that they panicked and made a desperate bid for Scolari, despite having insisted for months that the 4 on the shortlist were the only options. So maybe not over yet with these mugs
Report Mr. Memory April 30, 2012 7:07 AM BST
"new born".............I can assure you that everyone does not want the job to go to Rednapp.
Report Mariner Paul May 1, 2012 5:53 AM BST
1.04 Plain
Report onlooker May 1, 2012 8:01 AM BST
Tobermory     30 Apr 12  01:42
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I do remember in 2006 when the FA leaked that Mclaren was going to get it, the reaction was so overwhelmingly negative that they panicked and made a desperate bid for Scolari,
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I remember - with great affection, having Laid him at an average of aropund 1.14  -
Scolari 'doing a runner' Grin -

- and leaving the FA even more embarrassed than your original U-Turn.
Report ShirleyKnot May 1, 2012 9:12 AM BST
I am not sure if you do twitter Tobermory but there were a couple of smart cookies predicting Hodgson a fortnight ago.
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