Howard Webb - disgraceful

Was he wearing red again today?

hes apparently the worlds best ref also

hes apparently the worlds best ref also

2 first half were stonewall.  He is a disgrace.  This country only has one very good ref and it is mark halsey.  everyone else is embarrassing

Fergie thought so.

the linesman had a shocker as well. In the first half 2 key incidents happened right in front of his eyes yet no decision made. Appalling officiating.

he BOTTLED it in the WC Final....

When fergie taps his watch he is reminding the referee who bought them that watch for christmas

Nobody used to slate a referee 30/40 years ago like they do today.Why do people think this is?My thoughts are TV is to blame scrutinising every decision.You dont hear about bad decisions in the lower divisions but they probably occur

Howard Webb on the payroll, David Gill on the F.A Board, Fergie running the F.A, cronies in the media, Man U should be done for racketeering. Only two CL titles is a truer reflection of Fergie's legacy than umpteen PL championships.

so if you tackle for the ball and get the ball its now a penatly, whats up with us all the game was great and chelsea should have won the game but they didnt and now all the contrversy comes out. i am a chelsea supporter and am sad we didnt win but for man u to have 4 stone wall penalties well dont worry guys you all need to go to specksavers lol

Should Chelsea have been  playing Coventry City & Coventry been given the penalty's nobody would be saying a single thing.

put the ribbons on the trophy fergie has already paid for it.

I did notice that Watchit.

You're all overlooking a fantastic performance by Manchester United.
With a relentless never say die attitude, those 12 men just didn't know the meaning of the word defeat.

he might as well put his name on the back of his shirt.

not if fergie is your manager.

If webb was so pro-united would he not have gave united a pen and sent off cahill in the 1st half?????

1st- letter of law pen, harsh to give thou
2nd- outside area, yellow card
3rd- pen all day
4th- never a pen

2nd yellow card????? Was he not the last man????? Agree with you on the other one's though.

HE WAS BRIBED

Well, Webb has been officially approved by Fergie, while Atkinson remains banned by the Ogre. Clattenburk was unwilling to retrospectively red card Rooney last season because he would have gone on the banned list. We know who run tings, dont we?

webb is need of glasses bad both ways but still in fergi jocks pock

Only surprise today was he did not take the ball of rooney and take the pen himself

HOWARD

W     WORTH
E     EVERY
B     BLOODY
B     BRIBE

is this the same clown who didnt send de jong off in the world cup final for karate kicking alonso int he chest?

Oh FFS!!! Some really stupid comments on here tonight.

I would not give webby a hard time at the end of the day he would not have giving the pen if Wellbeck did not CHEAT his fellow pros

even man utd fans have to admit howard webb has done them some big favours down the years

to be fair man united should have had a free kick on edge of the box in firt half when that fella got hacked down

could have been a red for that too

im a man u fan i have 2 admit howard webb has gave us a few games down the years thats for sure the 2nd pen today was a dive i thought that was pretty clear to see 2 every1 but on the other hand i thought cahill was a foul and he should have gone for that last man but the fact in the hole primer league not just howard webb who had a shocking game today that the standard off refs has got worse some of the decsions are beyond me and laughable i think need 2 sit them all down and say look if u get so many decsons wrong ur suspened maybe that mite concentrate more becoz at the moment its a joke for all football fans getting stiffed left right and centre ow and the diving is getting worse there has 2 be 10 15 dives a game should be looked at every dive should be a booking either during the game or after when the game is assed everyelse thoughts

Fantastic half time motivational talk from Fergie. Howard Webb played a blinder in the 2nd half.

Agree with you about the diving it's getting worse. johnsons yesterday against fulham, wellbeck today and david luiz's at the end of the game to win a free kick that nearly won the game for chelsea. People have got to remember ref's only have a split decision to make up their mind's and if player's keep on doing this no wonder they get some decision's wrong, I wouldn't do their job and I don't think a lot of people on here would.

howard webb is a very disturbed individual

I honestly believe EPL refs must have had a dictat telling them to let the game flow
ie dont give fouls
The USP of the EPL is fast paced action after all


THus you get inconsistent performances such as the one from mr webb today

You have to say that of all the teams in the EPL Man Utd have worked this out the best

The old mourinho chelsea knew this, not sure AVB does

If I were a ref in the EPL I would avoid all controversy by awarding anything remotely approaching a foul and not giving a pen unless the keeper mowed down the centre forward with a kalashnikov
But then we would be living in a very boring world would we not
La Liga anyone?

The psychology of supervision has yet to match the the psychology of game play as demonstrated at the top levels of all endeavours; training is needed in behavioural response techniques and awareness before reasonable response can eren be approached through the whistle.

The psychology of supervision has yet to match the the psychology of game play as demonstrated at the top levels of all endeavours; training is needed in behavioural response techniques and awareness before reasonable response can eren be approached through the whistle.

I agree, very very dodgy from him today.

You Chelsea can bame the referee as much as you like, the fact is if that £50m Torres had of scored in 78th minute that would have been 4-2 and game over.
Referees are such easy targets and fans tend not to look at their own teams mistakes

Webb has be struck off with immediate effect ,his bias towards Man Utd is unbelievable

Never thought a ref of his standing capitulate to the cheating that Man Utd bring to the Premiership.They (Utd) would make the tumbling acts in the Moscow state circus envious.It will be a sad day if they win another Prem title this way.They seem to have an abundance of players that shall we say seem to find it easier to lose their feet rather than staying on them.

22 players constantly trying to cheat you into decisions
2 managers on the touchline pressurizing the world, into you losing your job

Impossible, just impossible
Full sympathy for all referees these days

not all players try to cheat but in principal totally agree with poppydog and they get one look and one angle to get it right not half a dozen different ones in slow motion ,thankless task for any individual

I think some of the refs are poor, but the FA/FIFA really need to update the way the game is officiated. It's time for video refs and an appeals system similar to Tennis/Cricket. Too many big calls get shown to be incorrect by a TV replay that takes 30secs-1min to view the incident from every angle, in slow motion.

Couple that with goal-line technology, and a proper panel (seperate from referees) that deals with retrospective punishment for cheats (divers and violent tackles etc.) and we'd go a long way to having the game officiated to a 21st century standard.

Not sure about the video technology dza - would there be less disagreements? You don't see many challenges that everyone agrees with, after a replay.

I agree with your other suggestions though.

Perhaps Jason, but if a Video ref took a look at a challenge and couldn't make a definitive call on it, then he'd just have to give no foul and play on. Manager's might still cry, but they couldn't really argue if a call can't easily made via replay.

Maybe - but don't you think we'd have to stop 15-20 times a game?

That's why I'd use an appeals ssytem. 2 appeals per side -- if you are correct in appealing, you retain the 2 appeals. If incorrect, you lose one.

Probably have to be coupled with some sort of 'incident timeframe' whereby an appeal could only be used within, say, 90 seconds of an incident occuring. So yesterday for example, Chelsea might have scored off that free-kick where Luiz took a dive. The goal goes in, Utd appeal -- if it doesn't, they might save the appeal for another time.

All penalties given would be automatically reviewed and not subject to the appeal system -- this is because there is always a delay between the penalty being given and the actual taking of the kick. during that time, the incident can be replayed again and again until a decision can be given (or not).

Appeals would come into play if a team thinks they should have had a penalty but did not get it -- and that's why the number of appeals would be limited. If there is no penalty, then the team loses one of their appeals, meaning that they would have to be selective in when to use them. Which would make the players involved more honest ie better not dive as I'll look a c**t on the replay and lose my team an appeal.

I'm sure much smarter people than me could work out a better system. Something has to change though. It's ridiculous not to at least use some technology.

Maybe I'm just being a dinosaur in not wanting it, but it feels to me like it wouldn't work because we're not dealing with clear cut decisions, it's all about opinions.

If it's ambiguous after a plethora of replays, then it can't be judged a foul imo. The problem is that too many decisions that aren't clear cut are being given as stonewall. That's what the technology would solve, in my view.

We'll never get a perfect system of officiating, but we could get one that is much better.

it seems to me that we could take a lead from the nfl.

teams allowed a certain number of challenges.

if on review there's no clear cut mistake they stick to the ruling on the field,

Something like that, Mex.

Care would have to be taken not to disrupt the flow of the game too much, but I think something could be worked in because of the delays contentious decisions tend to cause; see how long it takes for a penalty to be taken from when the decision was given, or the hold-ups caused by players surrounding the ref etc.