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Therefore, Mcleish should be removed with immediate effect. If he isn't, the fans will make sure he is. Rest assured of that.
An unsurprisingly ill informed token response. Yes, he came from Birmingham (it's a mainly one way England v Scotland-esque 'rivalry'), he was given a fair welcome. The one bad result quote goes to show the level of misunderstanding. The fans have been pretty patient - The logic behind the initial appointment was " Well we won't be that great to watch going forward, but at least he should sort the defence out" given his portfolio. He hasn't, and the only addition to the back 4 has been Alan Hutton, who has thus far made Bosko Balaban look like a shrewd signing.
James Collins continues to go through the motions looking as disinterested as any player I've seen , kicking for touch like Johnny Wilkinson's less talented brother, but still gets picked ahead of Cuellar and Clarke. Warnock still gets done for pace and position and hacks people down from behind and collects his statutory yellow card most games. McLeish further up the pitch has played Heskey as a right winger, Petrov still just runs and runs and sweats but doesn't produce, whilst Albrighton, the best crosser at the club has spent most of the season on the bench, whilst N'Zogbia looks about as interested as Collins, but gets played to try and justify his fee and wages.
No, the squad isn't full of world beaters, but on ability should finish without question closer to 7th than 15th, but nobody would put money on that at the moment, and the manger has a lot to do with that reasoning.
And as someone said they have gave him a chance but hes hopeless and negative how could they put up with that? The dullest football you will ever see
Jan 4, 2012 -- 7:26PM, Hamsterdam wrote:
Our 'par' position given our resources and players is probably 7th. Mcleish had us in 12th with over half the season gone with no signs of things getting better. We are a fair bunch unlike that Blackburn mob, we gave him a chance despite the appointment which Villa fans were unanimously against. He has failed as everyone knew he would.Therefore, Mcleish should be removed with immediate effect. If he isn't, the fans will make sure he is. Rest assured of that.
you finished 9th last season, you sold your best provider in downing in close season. half way through this season you are two points off 9th and well clear of relegation. villa would be nuts to sack mcleish half way through his first season. what if the new manager goes on a bad run and you end up near the bottom? sack him after 6 games? have you forgotten the quality martin o'neill had at his disposal just to get to 6th?
Jan 5, 2012 -- 1:28AM, HRH The Lager Khan wrote:
Villa fans turn on their manager because of a bad result and because he used to manage Birmingham. What a surprise An unsurprisingly ill informed token response. Yes, he came from Birmingham (it's a mainly one way England v Scotland-esque 'rivalry'), he was given a fair welcome. The one bad result quote goes to show the level of misunderstanding. The fans have been pretty patient - The logic behind the initial appointment was " Well we won't be that great to watch going forward, but at least he should sort the defence out" given his portfolio. He hasn't, and the only addition to the back 4 has been Alan Hutton, who has thus far made Bosko Balaban look like a shrewd signing. James Collins continues to go through the motions looking as disinterested as any player I've seen , kicking for touch like Johnny Wilkinson's less talented brother, but still gets picked ahead of Cuellar and Clarke. Warnock still gets done for pace and position and hacks people down from behind and collects his statutory yellow card most games. McLeish further up the pitch has played Heskey as a right winger, Petrov still just runs and runs and sweats but doesn't produce, whilst Albrighton, the best crosser at the club has spent most of the season on the bench, whilst N'Zogbia looks about as interested as Collins, but gets played to try and justify his fee and wages.No, the squad isn't full of world beaters, but on ability should finish without question closer to 7th than 15th, but nobody would put money on that at the moment, and the manger has a lot to do with that reasoning.
I'm sure there has been a season of frustration but the sack the manager post came after a 2-0 defeat to Swansea and days after winning at Chelsea. you have picked up points in 13 of 20 matches. that's a pretty solid performance. you can pick apart the manager's formation and tactics but the bottom line is you've sold your best players and haven't replaced them. as harry redknapp says 'good players win football matches'. mcleish was probably appointed because he isn't going to complain about a lack of cash. I would guess the owner is quite happy with being mid-table. maybe you should get a better manager in the summer and invest in the team but I can't see anyone doing better than mcleish in the next few months with that squad.
and there's a definite possiblity they'll at least flirt with relegation.
Wondered where some of the above posters had gone !!!!!!
But where's DORKY ??
NO CHAMPIONS LEAGUE AGAIN GIRLS
K'R'O.
not sure what it was before his appointment at villa.
II might be wrong, but I guess villa fans accept mid table with possibility of pushing for Europe or a cup run, as long as they were playing decent football. McLeish won't deliver that style of play so I have some sympathy with the fans here. It's Lerners fault though, so have a go at him.
All about money now the top six have the highest wage bills so their managers are doing a job.
Pardew lambert roberts etc are punching above their weights because they know there football.
Mcleish knows f..k all !
You might have the seventh biggest wage bill but you haven't got the seventh best squad or team. That's not mcLeish's fault. That said, I totally agree that those managers you mention are doing superbly with far fewer resources.
http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/index.ssf/2012/02/cleveland_browns_footballsocce.html
Seems the other guy is even less popular than Mcleish .....
'' you can see why both organizations are a JOKE !!!!!! Pat Shurmur is a total waste as a head coach. He was about to be run out of St. Louis as O.C. Now were stuck with this bafoon trying to compete with real coaches in our division.''
10 of his 26 wins in the Prem were by 1-0.
I'm not sure he's grasped the full implications of 3 points for a win, yet.
Either that or he thinks the points system is the same as it was on the football pools years ago, 2 points for a goalless draw but only 1½ for an away win . . .
Season 2011/12 Aston Villa----------P26---W6---D11---L9---PTS 29
Season 2010/11 SHA-----------------P26---W6---D12---L8---PTS 30
Currently doing a worse job at villa than he was with the scum last season, says it all really! and they had a cup run to distract them from the league, can't use that excuse here.
Last season they ended up with 39 pts and went down, we're bloody lucky this year that the same points tally will probably mean safety as I think we'll only just scrape that amount. Anything below 40 pts in a season with an Aston Villa side with a £20m+ striker, a proven top drawer keeper, £9m winger and all the rest of the team well accustomed to finishing in the top 6 would be a disgrace. When you look at the resources a team like Norwich have, (I bet their normal first 11 cost much less than Bent) and see their success you realise how rich they are in the most important commodity, a manager, whereas we are managerially bankrupt.
