Is Derek mc govern the worst tipster of all time ??

His haas tip is running well, 6-1 1st set

It didn't win though. VOID.

I read his column most days and think its funny (i must have a juvenile mind according to most on this) but i pay no attention to his tips. I think when you are tipping on average even money shots and you have 1 win in 14 its a long road back

hat-trick

He won today well done Dmcg

5/6 was an awful price so can't really give him credit, 2.3 on here

His joke about a couch before he gave his tip was awful.

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kenilworth 20 Jul 12 13:26 
...so what constitutes a 'good tip' ?

That's not an answer.





His Ebden tip

3 consecutive winners and still a load of bellyaching. No mention of the 5-1 winner on Saturday. ANd no mention of the fact that his cricket tip was coasting until it was rained off which Dawsy then said was losing after already sayign he was about to have a winner!!! And now another winner was no good as it was bigger on BF.

You may not be aware Dawsy donk but he cannot tip a non fixed price so has to use bookie prices. The intelligent ones then see if the price is better on here. Do you get it??? dddddddduuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh.

Dawsy you cannot tip sh1t out of a wheelbarrow. Your golf tips are bombing (as always). You even think Bebe, Obertan, Djemba Djemba & Alan Brazil will still all fire Manure to glory....

I thought ENgland were poor tonight, very disjointed. The only time England will ever string 20 passes together is if Rooney appears on MAstermind

Here is a proper tip Derek - you can tip it in the paper tomorrow if you want.

Tiger Woods will WIN the open.

You need all the help you can get - horrific tipster.

The day I publish one of your tips is the day you actually get off your posteria and go out for the evening as most people do now and again.

Good luck with your guesses then

You utter fool. What u going to do? Throw a dart at some random tennis mug SUCH A MASSIVE GUESSER.

Fact is you will gain thousands of followers if you tip up Tigger tomorrow, a superb tip.

a well overdue winner... im actually delighted for him. well done derek onwards and upwards

Over2.5 you are on the Tigger train?

thats a bold prediction dawsy. especially after that chip in for a birdie at the last

dawsy im on since the start got a bit at 12/1 too, shrewd

A 3/1 shot Fred.

This MUG derek is tipping up odds on shots and failing. Tigger is going to be the biggest bet I've had this year.

Well played SHREWDIE

Maybe you should have ur own column in the mirror.

I dont claim to be an all rounder like derek he backs on sports he has no idea about.. the sign of a true mug. ill give him a daily tip once the footy starts

Are you really going to bet a whole 7 pence?!!

Steady on fella. Stick to your mythical £5k bets on epic failures like the CL Final. It's a lot cheaper and less stress.

charwell are you claiming to be derek mugovern then ??

dawsy the guy is favourite for every tournament he enters u clown

charwell.

Dawsy you cannot tip sh1t out of a wheelbarrow.

He tipped Paul Lawrie for the Qatar Masters at 50/1 before a ball was struck.  Baldfred got absolutely hammered and cut to 33/1 on the back of a flood of money at 50s immediately after Dawsy went public with this information.

IQ 2.5 & Dawsy donk. Do you not realise it's very sad tokeep rating your own crap. And as its rated as soon as you post it only you have had time to rate it.

Almost as pathetic as loving a footy team you have never been to watch. Heaven forbid you two herberts would stoop that low

STFU fred. Charwell knows nothing about tennis. He just throws a dart at any even 5/6 shot that is playing on the day, you know it.

Thanks Rob. Also don't forget that I was on the double of Stanley & Lawrie. Something these MUG tipsters dream of doing is landing a massive golf double (2600-1) I can say that I am better than these tipsters because I have landed it myself. fact is - Mugovern wishes he was me

Charwell donk. Do you not realise it's very sad tokeep rating your own crap. And as its rated as soon as you post it only you have had time to rate it.

Almost as pathetic as loving a footy team you have never been to watch. Heaven forbid you two herberts would stoop that low

I am not convinced tiger will do it!! what 4 shots behind it only takes one bad hole. Lets face its he back in Vegas baby.

Lay him then Richie.

Snedeker a massive choker and Scott always puts in a bad round. Tigger will plot himself round the course with his 3 wood and hardly make a mistake.

expect a big round from luke donald tomorrow

I have if he wins you have my money!! I think the weather could play a part. He is in chasing pack its not his style he likes to be out front.

red nose tit

richiem222

He is in chasing pack its not his style he likes to be out front.

Give it a few holes and he might be.  Looks rock solid and hasn't really hit top gear yet.  As Dawsy says, Scott seems to always shove in a diabolical round (surprised it wasn't today) and Snedeker surely can't keep this up.  Put it this way, Snedeker has played some awesome stuff but is only four shots clear of Tiger...if Tiger turns it on he could be leading after the front nine and then it's his to lose.

I agree Rob its his to lose. Just think it ain't going happen, Its the second nine thats a problem to many pars very few birdies i could be wrong but thats gambling.

Once Sneds has his first bogey of the tourny he will blow up imo. He plays far to fast and doesn't really think about what he's going to do - once he gets into a bad position he will do something very stupid. You watch.

All the best, richie.  I'm on Tiger pre tournament, haven't gone back in at the prices as I think they're about right, but I still fancy him to do it.

Yeah if i was in your position would have laid for profit by now taken 10's drop to 5's/ 4's watch and enjoy. Can't say i ain't kicking myself for not backing him.

Back him now. Great price.

then when he loses i will be kicking myself!!! lol You know the score once you have my made your choice stick to it!!!

The day I publish one of your tips is the day you actually get off your posteria and go out for the evening as most people do now and again.

So Charwell actually is McGovern hahahahahaha

Jul 20, 2012 -- 10:05PM, charwell. wrote:

3 consecutive winners and still a load of bellyaching. No mention of the 5-1 winner on Saturday. ANd no mention of the fact that his cricket tip was coasting until it was rained off which Dawsy then said was losing after already sayign he was about to have a winner!!! And now another winner was no good as it was bigger on BF.You may not be aware Dawsy donk but he cannot tip a non fixed price so has to use bookie prices. The intelligent ones then see if the price is better on here. Do you get it??? dddddddduuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh.Dawsy you cannot tip sh1t out of a wheelbarrow. Your golf tips are bombing (as always). You even think Bebe, Obertan, Djemba Djemba & Alan Brazil will still all fire Manure to glory....I thought ENgland were poor tonight, very disjointed. The only time England will ever string 20 passes together is if Rooney appears on MAstermind

Gilles Muller to win with William Hill is not a winner HTH

It seems that biscuit doesn't really know what constitutes
a ''good bet'', at least before the event. He may need the
result before him to give a definition perhaps.

The definition of a good tip:

The kind of place makes a difference. For casual dining 15-18% is considered normal for good service. In a fine dining situation 20% is the correct tip, because the server is expected to be more attentive, more expert and more service is required (more courses, table appointments etc). To thank your server for exceptional service, add more.

I don't think bar tips are done by percentage, they seem to be more random, except for group settings like wedding receptions etc.

kenilworth 21 Jul 12 08:35 
It seems that biscuit doesn't really know what constitutes
a ''good bet'', at least before the event.





I already answered your question. Twice.

Return Of Dawsy

Once Sneds has his first bogey of the tourny he will blow up imo



Looks like Sned's àrsehole fell out on the 3rd tee; if found please return to Brandt ASAP.

biscuit, I wasn't aware that you had. Could please highlight
when you did ?

Dawsy is a clown about the forum but I don't think there's any debate he's well up on cricket and golf
very blinkered when it comes to football but takes the banter and good for it

McGovern is mildly amusing, unsuccessful as a Newspaper Tipster and seriously disadvantaged having to take a pick every day.

I's very difficult to beat the margins when you HAVE to play. RTB will agree as will kenilworth I'm sure as they are winners. It's not hard to tell who wins here from what they say and how they say it.

I'd agree with an earlier post about McGovern being unable to claim exchange prices. If he posted 2.3 the night before, could be 1.90 in the morning and that would be no good.

I'd agree with some of the stuff Kenilworth posts.

"Sports Bettings No. 1 Tipster" is wide of the mark if that is true but seriously - if anybody hopes to make a living following a comic tipster in the Daily Mirror then they are in the wrong game.

On the other hand, I'd love to see the "Biscuits Tips" thread or "Over 2.5's legendary betting thread" etc but I sincerely doubt either will be forthcoming.

I agree that he can't really win, given the nature of his column.  He's forced to tip Will Hill prices (if it's correct that his column is "endorsed" by them) and can't be beating SPs every day as it'd be bad business for Will Hill.  Therefore he's effectively betting at SP or worse each day, which means he'll lose barring an exceptionally lucky streak.

Disagree that having to pick one selection a day is tough, but the price he tips up pretty much has to be there for people, else his column is a bit pointless on the betting front.

I'd like to think that kenilworth plays Devil's Advocate, as otherwise he's talking rubbish (imvho).  But aye, anyone following the tips in this column and expecting to make a long term profit is a bit dim anyway; it's only meant as some light reading and a bit of a laugh.

hejik 21 Jul 12 20:51 
On the other hand, I'd love to see the "Biscuits Tips" thread or "Over 2.5's legendary betting thread" etc but I sincerely doubt either will be forthcoming.





If you read tonight's Brazilian Serie A thread you'll see i tipped 2 winners. That's more than he had in the first WEEK of me following his tips.

FWIW pretty much everything Rob has just said is spot on though.

Rob, perhaps you could be less vague and identify
for me the rubbish I am posting. Thank you.

Okay, one example is you saying that nobody is brave enough to take him on and put their money where their mouth is etc.  I'd lay virtually all of his bets at the prices he takes.  As I've already alluded to, he's fighting a losing battle as the prices have to be there, or near enough, for his column to have any sort of substance in terms of betting, but you can't honestly think that the guy is tipping up good bet...can you?

McGovern is a reasonably good journalist with a quirky
sense of humour who writes a mildly amusing column on 
a daily basis and also throws in a bet pick every day
on various sports. As he doesn't seem to be price
sensitive, and by guessing as he does, will lose around
8% overall, but for all that, he gets savaged by thickos
on here who are very reticent about opposing his bets
(even if they could), only the after timers claim to that.
No, I don't think he is 'tipping up good bets', but nor do
I think he is much worse than most on here, but he doesn't
deserve the criticism he gets. Do you ?
I think he should be savaged the way he does, do you ?

Please ignore the last line from my last post above.

No, but this is the Betfair football forum, where people revel in the misery of others.  We all know the score.

He calls himself a betting guru and sport's top tipster, so I'd say he was setting himself up for a fall, wouldn't you?  I realise that it's all part of the hilarity of his column (which is obviously an acquired taste), but to say that nobody would put their money where their mouth is and take him on is plain wrong.  You say he's not price sensitive and takes any old price, so one would be daft not to take him on.

It's nothing personal against you, ken, I just get the impression you'd argue black is white on this particular issue, so there's not much more to say on it.

I hope it's nothing personal against me,
but regards arguing black was white, I argue
against cheap sniping but you seem to accept
it as par for the course so to speak. Regards
McGovern, he writes for a rag in which there
is hardly anything you can read and believe
so he is par for the course. Sniping at tipsters
is cheap and nasty but you seem to condone it, as
you seem to disagree with my view, perhaps it's
it's what you agree with. That is your problem.
For what it's worth, you seem to disagree with
my views so perhaps you will just be that way as
a matter of course, and no different from me.
Enjoy the company you condone. GL

I don't like the fact that folk have a go at others on here, just saying it's the way it is.  Not really something for me to condone or otherwise, and not much I can do about it; the vast majority of people on here are half wits or like to act like one. 

I don't disagree that it's a cheap shot to take (at McGovern), you're twisting my viewpoint to suit your own agenda (quelle surprise).

Good luck to you too.

why is ken so miserable and boring all the time?

Rob, I don't have an agenda other than to stay honest.

This thread seems to have dried up, so I
wonder... has McGovern been picking any
winners ?

Missed his tip today kenilworth, i would say he won though since no-one is revelling in his failure

he had a bet on Dudi Sela vs Andreev, can't remember which but it was at 5/6

and the market doesn't really help since Dudi Sela has drifted huge pre match

One prolific poster has gone quiet despite
seeing the Mirror everyday, so perhaps he
has gone shy. This is my last post on the
subject.

Thankfully it was as illuminating as all of the others, ken.

Kisses.

another loser today

so he backed Sela then

match was probably fixed

I feel like the referee in a football match, the only one trying
to be honest, but getting blamed for everything. I can live with
that, but can you ?

kenilworth 24 Jul 12 23:12 
One prolific poster has gone quiet despite
seeing the Mirror everyday, so perhaps he
has gone shy




Assuming you mean me, the girl who sorts out the papers here has been on holiday so i've not been getting it, and i really can't be bothered to go and buy it. Anyway she's back and i have a paper so todays' tip is..............Wayne Odesnik at 7/5 with Ladbrokes to beat Jurgen Zopp at Kitzbuhel.

the girl who sorts out the papers here has been on holiday so i've not been getting it

You little pervert!

Mcgovern has been in a tremendous run of form, hence why it has gone quiet.

This thread only springs to life when he has had losers.

It's called the politics of envy. Not one of these forum dwellers has yet become a millionaire laying his tips, nor have they offered a daily one so we can compare.

Well, darn, isn't that a funny thing........

As i said Charwell i will challenge him in and around 15th of August, football vs football tips,
I have not got a clue who Odesnik or Jurgen Zopp is or even what sport that is

Yesterday's tip Odesnik looks good for the win, 3-0 up in the deciding set.


Today's tip, Belarus at 10/11 (doesn't specify which bookie though) to beat NZ in the Men's Olympic football

Odesnik wins

Other than whether he has took a mug price, the bookie he bets with is only really important in tennis as there are different settling rules

And Belarus won too above evens on here.

Of course having 6 winners out of 7 is not worthy of a pat on the back. Having a couple of losers on the run is worthy of Front Page headlines.

What a spineless and pathetic bunch of morons who hover like vultures and scarper like rats.

Derek on a roll this week.

Today's tip. Rajeev Ram at 4/5 to beat Leo Mayer in the tennis tonight.

Before charwell completely BOILS OVER, well done to Dezza for his picks in the last week or so.  Superb tipping.

He's unstoppable now, Ram wins in straight sets.

always knew Derek would come good

Fed to win Olympics 7/4 today

he was on Kamke to beat Paire in washington. 6/4 shot winner

Matosevic

he's backed Saffers in the cricket today btw

dunno if he tipped him against mato. he had Kamke to beat the frenchie first round

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ttt

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Apparently only had one bet on the Euro's (which lost), so at least he's recognizing he has a problem

He's been giving some good tennis tips. 11-4 winner on friday.

Jun 26, 2016 -- 7:09PM, JC1326 wrote:

Apparently only had one bet on the Euro's (which lost), so at least he's recognizing he has a problem

You mean he's admitted to starting with the AA?

No. I do believe he's currently in a program from Mugs Anonymous though

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