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USA to win and over 1,5??

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By:
arsenal79overs_
When: 25 Jul 10 10:17
I havent watched any of the games in this WC... but USA should win comfortably.
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 25 Jul 10 10:21
didnt see this thread

going to lay USA for a bit of interest
By:
karencarpenter
When: 25 Jul 10 10:22
cant forget how poor usa were against ghana,cheap lay.
By:
arsenal79overs_
When: 25 Jul 10 10:27
backing over 1.5
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 25 Jul 10 10:31
look at that!!
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 25 Jul 10 10:32
1.35 to 1.42 after 60 seconds

suckered a few ppl in there i'd imagine
By:
arsenal79overs_
When: 25 Jul 10 10:37
or someone, its a big lump on 13k laying USA.
By:
bass1999
When: 25 Jul 10 10:38
1-0
By:
arsenal79overs_
When: 25 Jul 10 10:40
hmm i wonder if someone at the ground, i saw a big amount just got matched on USA a few sec before the suspend.
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 10:42
how much

there was 15k laying usa which was nibbled at down to 5k. didnt see any big bets
By:
arsenal79overs_
When: 25 Jul 10 10:43
4-5k i think... might be wrong but it happened shortly before the suspend.
maybe not that big .. but :)
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 25 Jul 10 10:44
modk do you work for betfair?
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 10:45
i think it was alot of smaller 1-2k bets which might appear as 1 large bet if you have a slow refresh
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 10:46
i saw the 15k (i told my £2 out of it as well) and lots of other people peppered it down to 5k just before the goal
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 10:52
no. im still not convinced about the bots getting around the clocks on that general betting thread.

I suppose i'll just have to see it for myself :(
By:
Raluca
When: 25 Jul 10 10:53
:(
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 10:59
All it takes it a couple of database technicians at bf HQ to write a server-side script to be first to fire in a bet after the market unsuspends. Or even just bet locally so there's no internet delay.

Their bet will already have started counting down before we (at home) have even seen the market unsuspend.

People just get their knickers in a twist when someone is faster than them. It was the same with the SIS pics when someone had a faster feed. All the same names moaning because their flow of free money has dried up as a bigger better fish has come along.
By:
'MonTheRovers
When: 25 Jul 10 11:04
Money being hoovered before the suspend is getting quite common now. I noticed it happening at least five times yesterday.
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 25 Jul 10 11:05
But 5 seconds faster?

If that's the sort of advantage you get just by living next to HQ i'll move tomorrow.
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:06
Yea, tahts a different issue.

Apparently, people think that someone has found a way to get around the clock. So lets say its a 5 second clock on a football match. After goal goes in and market reopens people get their bets in after like 3 seconds. I just dont believe it.
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:08
By the way which markets are we talking about. Match odds? So you're saying that on an 8 sec game ppl get their money in the market 3 seconds after the goal goes in?
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 25 Jul 10 11:08
Did you not see the screenshot I posted?

I took it right after the Suspend had cleared. Even if the suspend cleared 1 second late on my screen, that still doesn't account for the 4 seconds difference. Even if I were TWO seconds slower, that's still a 3 second advantage.
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:09
Im pretty fast and ive never seen money beat me by anythign more than half a second
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:10
how fast are you refreshing though? i remember you saying yo ugot data charged so presumably you've slowed down your api
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 25 Jul 10 11:10
im not slow either. i can get my money in and be first the queue after a suspend.

but not as fast as that.
By:
Rs1
When: 25 Jul 10 11:11
someone has a faster a link , most games i see the money hoovered up

watch a prem game and you can see soemone is a good 4 seconds ahead of everyone
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:12
unless you're refreshing at 0.1 secs then the arguemtn is pointless
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:12
RS1 we're not talking about that
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:13
we're talking about markets opening and people getting their bets in before the alloted clock on the match. nothing to do with hoovering or fast pics
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:18
Well im gonna keep looking out for it and I'll be the first to start a new thread when i see it Confused
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 25 Jul 10 11:20
there certainly seem to be a few who have seen it

if it were down to a slow/poor internet connection would it not happen in every market?
By:
Rs1
When: 25 Jul 10 11:20
yeh how the fcuk does that happen ?

soon as markets open i put a bet on it counts down

couple seconds later someone else bet is on and im still there waiting for my bet to go  on

i emailed betfair and they fobbed me off with everyone has the same time
By:
oohah
When: 25 Jul 10 11:20
back to the game lads shirley this wont finish 1-0 i reckon 2-0 or 3-0
By:
Misspoker
When: 25 Jul 10 11:24
Rocket where is the screenshot you posted?
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:24
Anyone who has a fracsoft account can grab the data files which are timestamped. They would show something like this for the world cup games.

England v Germany
5 second clock

Time  Event

12:23 Market Suspended Goal
12:54 Market Unsuspend
12:55 Bet matched at xyz odds
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:24
thats mean to be seconds not minutes, but you get what i mean. I bet the logs dont show that
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:25
The log will always show bets matched after the clock (or atleast that im expecting they show).

http://www.fracsoft.com/
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 25 Jul 10 11:27
in the thread in General Betting, misspoker. 'bots betting in world cup market without delay'


modk, i don't have an account with them (cant even view the website atm). sure somebody will though,
By:
modk
When: 25 Jul 10 11:28
Next time you suspect its happened email betfair and ask them for a breakdown of the management of that market. Time suspended and first time bet was matched after the clock opened. Providing you're not asking for volumes they should give you it.
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