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... mixed with a splash of infant school.
So many people with no many clueless judgments regarding English football.
Incredible.
So many people with no many clueless judgments regarding English football.
Incredible.
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With the right system they can be good enough/organised enough.
Unfortunately, there are too many half-wits on here to even begin to understand.
Unfortunately, there are too many half-wits on here to even begin to understand.
still should win group , but i hope serbia win theirs, rather play germany than them.
Palmer, just be greatful. This is a betting exchange, so it's the clueless dullards that provide our winnings - long may it continue too.
how can england fail to win that group? its the worst one in the comp.
If England reach the quarter finals that will be an achievement.
Palmer it is time to face the facts.England will probably win their group because it is terrible but will struggle against either Germany or Serbia and be lucky not to get taken apart. The USA were actually a bit worse than I expected them to be although they were pretty organised. England have a lot of individual talent but I am not sure if I have ever seen an England team playing as a cohesive unit. I don't know if it is lack of motivation or poor organisation or just that they are not good enough. It is gonna end in tears again
Face the facts of your opinion, you mean?
What a moronic statement.
People on here require a 3-0 win, minimum, and if not then we have no chance. No consideration for factors that will change in the tournament, no consideration for key personnel.
Clueless morons.
What a moronic statement.
People on here require a 3-0 win, minimum, and if not then we have no chance. No consideration for factors that will change in the tournament, no consideration for key personnel.
Clueless morons.
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Too many half-wits, not all half-wits.
Can you read?
You are clearly one of the half-wits to which I refer.
Too many half-wits, not all half-wits.
Can you read?
You are clearly one of the half-wits to which I refer.
Palmer, why do always come on here and act like a complete utter cnut?
It is not about winning three nil, it is about basic structure you moron
PJMaster - I am one of the few intelligent enough to see things that go on.
Sorry if this causes you to have a tantrum.
Sorry if this causes you to have a tantrum.
William, you muppet, care to tell us about this basic structure then?
Or are you too busy crying?
Or are you too busy crying?
DOES THE NEWSPAPER YOU READ HAVE INDICATION AS TO ANYTHING?
SO IN THAT CASE WHAT EVER YOU READ WOULD INDICATE YOUR A SNOB.
HOPE THIS HELPS.
HOPE THIS HELPS.
palmer face facts, everyone thinks youre a cnut cos you are one.
no mightymoyes, the only people who think that are the ones that have been owned by me, having tried to mock me and failed miserably.
I make good, intelligent points, but the forum just struggles to deal with people at a higher level of intelligence unfortunately.
I find the whole thing quite amusing.
I make good, intelligent points, but the forum just struggles to deal with people at a higher level of intelligence unfortunately.
I find the whole thing quite amusing.
I would have to agree with mighty moyes as well
Of course you would, it's usually tantrum time when I post 
Sometimes fluff, just sometimes, the forum has more reasoned comments than it does utter drivel.
Today is not one of those days.
Today is not one of those days.
MONEY TREE Joined: 02 Jul 09
Replies: 5187 13 Jun 10 11:14
DOES THE NEWSPAPER YOU READ HAVE INDICATION AS TO ANYTHING?
Yes it does Mr Tree. I hope this helps.
Replies: 5187 13 Jun 10 11:14
DOES THE NEWSPAPER YOU READ HAVE INDICATION AS TO ANYTHING?
Yes it does Mr Tree. I hope this helps.
the problem is, teams don't win tournaments by constantly conceding possession. Unless you're Inter Milan, and have superhuman confidence and structure, which we don't. Against any decent side we will struggle to get the ball back, struggle to make enough chances, and end up being unable to clinch games. Then come the penalties..
ALEX IT ONLY DOES IF YOUR TRYING TO ELEVATE YOUR SELF WORTH.
OTHERWISE IT DOES NOT.
OTHERWISE IT DOES NOT.
Finally someone talks sense!
Lux, completely agree, and I was amazed that Carrick didn't replace Milner last night, with Gerrard moving to the left.
Missing Barry is massive - it's all well and good deciding what we will do with the ball, but we have to have it - and keep it - before that becomes important.
I'm optimistic about Capello changing it and dealing with that issue - it's why Barry has been such an important player for him in the past.
Lux, completely agree, and I was amazed that Carrick didn't replace Milner last night, with Gerrard moving to the left.
Missing Barry is massive - it's all well and good deciding what we will do with the ball, but we have to have it - and keep it - before that becomes important.
I'm optimistic about Capello changing it and dealing with that issue - it's why Barry has been such an important player for him in the past.
Money Tree
You're only partly right.
If you read a proper newspaper because you think it makes you smart, then you are not.
If you read a proper newspaper because you want to read intelligent comment, debate and read news put across sensibly, then you are intelligent.
The same goes for the Sun.
If you read it knowing that it produces drivel, then it isn't so bad.
But if you read it and take on board the opinions and news being written, then you are stupid.
You're only partly right.
If you read a proper newspaper because you think it makes you smart, then you are not.
If you read a proper newspaper because you want to read intelligent comment, debate and read news put across sensibly, then you are intelligent.
The same goes for the Sun.
If you read it knowing that it produces drivel, then it isn't so bad.
But if you read it and take on board the opinions and news being written, then you are stupid.
MONEY TREE 13 Jun 10 11:27
ALEX IT ONLY DOES IF YOUR TRYING TO ELEVATE YOUR SELF WORTH.
OTHERWISE IT DOES NOT.
Are you suggesting that people read the Sun to elevate their self worth?
I did note that in yesterdays edition you could get a free England Flag though.
ALEX IT ONLY DOES IF YOUR TRYING TO ELEVATE YOUR SELF WORTH.
OTHERWISE IT DOES NOT.
Are you suggesting that people read the Sun to elevate their self worth?
I did note that in yesterdays edition you could get a free England Flag though.
Probably - the missus is out and I am having a quiet day, so will probably bet on the football.
Not sure what, though.
Not sure what, though.
MONEY TREE 13 Jun 10 11:33
EXACTLY.
ANY BETS FOR YOU TODAY?
Shedloads.
Oh, good morning Mr Tree.
EXACTLY.
ANY BETS FOR YOU TODAY?
Shedloads.
Oh, good morning Mr Tree.
I fear a bit for england if they get through the group stages and carragher starts, his lack of pace has to be a real concern.
Agreed - if King is injured then we will be severely weaker at the back.
Carragher reads the game better than Dawson or Upson I think, which you need alongside Terry, but he is very slow!
Carragher reads the game better than Dawson or Upson I think, which you need alongside Terry, but he is very slow!
"So many people with no many clueless judgments regarding English football."
Oh so you know some of the FA chiefs??
Oh so you know some of the FA chiefs??
Never understand why we take semi fit players, barry is a liability as is king.
barry a liability??, not sure where your gettin that from m8
Because, MT, they are the best we've got.
Name another centre half who can do the job that Rio and Ledley can?
Name another centre half who can do the job that Rio and Ledley can?
If there are doubts over his fitness then hes a liability.
last thing you need is for the squad to be missing players.
last thing you need is for the squad to be missing players.
the sooner people wake up to the fact they have no chance, the better.
So your sayin if rooney is carrying a slight knock, then he is a liability too
He is available for selection for next game, an important player in the squad imo.
mad paddy 13 Jun 10 11:46
barry a liability??, not sure where your gettin that from m8
Anybody that calls themself Gareth just has to be a liability. Why is he not Gary Barry?
barry a liability??, not sure where your gettin that from m8
Anybody that calls themself Gareth just has to be a liability. Why is he not Gary Barry?
I'm a liverpool supporter but carragher will be found out by the better strikers, no doubt about it.
mad paddy 13 Jun 10 11:58
,good point alex, never thought of that.
I just figure that his parents had a good sense of humour.
,good point alex, never thought of that.
I just figure that his parents had a good sense of humour.
For clarification purposes, magic man is still in a tantrum having been owned, by me, recently.
I shall therefore be laughing and pointing, but not engaging.
I shall therefore be laughing and pointing, but not engaging.
Of course they will qualify, jaysus some people on here need to wake up. An awful group, england will still get 7 pts.
mad paddy 13 Jun 10 12:06
I'm a liverpool supporter but carragher will be found out by the better strikers, no doubt about it.
You are just the man that I need to talk to. Why are people backing Carragher to be the next Liverpool manager? This punting is totally beyond my comprehension.
I'm a liverpool supporter but carragher will be found out by the better strikers, no doubt about it.
You are just the man that I need to talk to. Why are people backing Carragher to be the next Liverpool manager? This punting is totally beyond my comprehension.
Palmer 13 Jun 10 12:07
For clarification purposes, magic man is still in a tantrum having been owned, by me, recently.
Magic Man is a pro punter, or so he tells us. His total focus is on making $$$s. Furthermore he has been doing this for a whole 3 weeks now.
For clarification purposes, magic man is still in a tantrum having been owned, by me, recently.
Magic Man is a pro punter, or so he tells us. His total focus is on making $$$s. Furthermore he has been doing this for a whole 3 weeks now.
"Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
Yeh i have seen that, absolutely not a chance in hell, some people have to much money i think. He wouldn't be in the top 50 candidates.
Palmer 13 Jun 10 12:12
"Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
It is fun though. [;)]
"Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
It is fun though. [;)]
It's all rather amusing when he's being mocked Alex, but I like to call a halt once I've achieved my aim, as per the quote above.
Right, back to England.
Carragher is a liability, yes, but he is maybe good enough to see us through against the likes of Algeria, Slovenia and maybe Serbia, France?
We will require a bit of luck, but a fresh King for a semi would suddenly look good.
Right, back to England.
Carragher is a liability, yes, but he is maybe good enough to see us through against the likes of Algeria, Slovenia and maybe Serbia, France?
We will require a bit of luck, but a fresh King for a semi would suddenly look good.
The only thing is palmer,if england get to the semi's with carragher playing, cannot see him being dropped at that stage to be honest.
Hmm...maybe, but I wouldn't be so sure.
Capello strikes me as a man prepared to do that sort of thing, more so than any of his predecessors.
Capello strikes me as a man prepared to do that sort of thing, more so than any of his predecessors.
mad paddy 13 Jun 10 12:14
Yeh i have seen that, absolutely not a chance in hell, some people have to much money i think. He wouldn't be in the top 50 candidates.
Somebody was good enough to get Robbie Fowler added to the list and I note that people have actually backed him too.
I note that Eddie Izzard is on the list for the next London Mayor as well. The world is going mad![:(]
Yeh i have seen that, absolutely not a chance in hell, some people have to much money i think. He wouldn't be in the top 50 candidates.
Somebody was good enough to get Robbie Fowler added to the list and I note that people have actually backed him too.
I note that Eddie Izzard is on the list for the next London Mayor as well. The world is going mad![:(]
people on here will back anything, hence why i love betfair so much
Yes with a big bank there is plenty to pick up easily.
Palmer 13 Jun 10 10:01
... mixed with a splash of infant school.
So many people with no many clueless judgments regarding English football.
Incredible.
I did try reading the whole thread but Palmer's constant belittling is too tiresome.
Palmer, before this competition started you told me that King was a good selection and that I should wait until the tournament started to see that you are right. WIth King managing 45 minutes and out for at least the next match, will you now admit you were wrong?
We also disagreed on whether Capello was correct to pick wildly differing teams and formations in the build-up to the World Cup, with the inexplicable decision in the last full-international to start with three players who did not even make his squad. What was the outcome of all this experimentation? Milner on the left with Lampard and Gerrard in the centre of a 4-4-2 in a very disjointed performance. I predicted that as a result of his pre-World Cup selections we would not play as a team and you disagreed. Do you still think you're right?
From memory, the only thing we agreed on was that Carragher shouldn't be in the squad. I take it that's one thing we still agree on.
I also predicted before the match that Green would be our downfall. I do not recall your views on Green.
My conclusion is that you are one of the "many people with no [sic] many clueless judgments regarding English football."
... mixed with a splash of infant school.
So many people with no many clueless judgments regarding English football.
Incredible.
I did try reading the whole thread but Palmer's constant belittling is too tiresome.
Palmer, before this competition started you told me that King was a good selection and that I should wait until the tournament started to see that you are right. WIth King managing 45 minutes and out for at least the next match, will you now admit you were wrong?
We also disagreed on whether Capello was correct to pick wildly differing teams and formations in the build-up to the World Cup, with the inexplicable decision in the last full-international to start with three players who did not even make his squad. What was the outcome of all this experimentation? Milner on the left with Lampard and Gerrard in the centre of a 4-4-2 in a very disjointed performance. I predicted that as a result of his pre-World Cup selections we would not play as a team and you disagreed. Do you still think you're right?
From memory, the only thing we agreed on was that Carragher shouldn't be in the squad. I take it that's one thing we still agree on.
I also predicted before the match that Green would be our downfall. I do not recall your views on Green.
My conclusion is that you are one of the "many people with no [sic] many clueless judgments regarding English football."
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