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Steveirll
09 Nov 09 10:59
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Is there any bet out there that you can cover if it doesnt come in ?

someone was saying i should try and lay it

but you cant lay that market on betfair.

So am i best of laying Birmingham to score in 1st half ?

I suppose it only gets interesting if Birmingham score 1st half.
Then i could lay Birmingham scoring again ?

Id be interesting in hearing from any pro's that know how i could win a few quid if my bet doesnt come in tonight i.e anyway of laying it at all by covering other markets that allows me to cash in if Birmingham dont score in BH's

thanks
Steve.

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By:
rafesp
When: 09 Nov 09 11:02
well what did you stake on it
By:
McChicken_Sandwich
When: 09 Nov 09 11:05
All the pro's are too busy hedging off their Lee Bowyer to hit the bar bet's......imo
By:
Handles
When: 09 Nov 09 11:06
Best bet might be to lay birmingham in the 'next goal' market. If liverpool score first you'll win that bet. The market will then re-open and do the same.

If it gets to half time and its still 0-0 then close out your bet at improved odds and win anyway. Good luck
By:
Reaney
When: 09 Nov 09 11:07
Id just avoid this bet
By:
Bouncebackz
When: 09 Nov 09 11:08
yes thats how i cover clean sheet bets in the 2nd half
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 11:13
50 cent doubles 15 cent trebles

Real Mallorca to score BH against Barca 25/1 WON
Arsenal to score 4 or more goals 11/2 WON
Burnley to score Both halves v Man City 16/1 WON

Ive won 800 on the above

but the last leg of the bet is

Birmingham to score both halves v Liverpool which will win me 2,700
tonight if it comes in because of all the Trebles and Doubles that will accumulate from this bet if it comes in. !!!
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 11:15
Laying birmingham in the next goal market sure Birmingham are probably 1/7 so to lay id need 7 pounds to win 1

that aint an option !
By:
Clint Marcelle
When: 09 Nov 09 11:16
Just let it run, if they score in the 1st half then get laying in the second. The amonuts you would win laying off are minimal. Plus you already have won 800.
By:
sevey
When: 09 Nov 09 11:19
4.4 steve for a bulls eye
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 11:19
well said Clint ! your probably right and what a name eh clint :)
By:
Bouncebackz
When: 09 Nov 09 11:19
sit down with a notebook and calculator and make some calculations while u got time mate trust me you may ending up chasing after if birmingham dont score first half, consider both outcomes and how much of your profit your willing to sacrifice
By:
sevey
When: 09 Nov 09 11:19
well said clint
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 11:20
I agree 800 is great to have won but its a big difference another 2700 would make for a Wonderful Xmas and a happy new year :) :) :)
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 11:22
Bounce back your right also i think i'll let the bet run !!

i mean if and its a big IF, if birmingham score first half then thats the time to get on laying them to score again probably !

cheers for the advice guys !
By:
thefunkymonkey
When: 09 Nov 09 12:00
steve, who did you win the £800 with?
By:
thefunkymonkey
When: 09 Nov 09 12:03
don't worry, i know.
By:
layer1982
When: 09 Nov 09 12:35
lay Brum to score in the 1st half correct score market....and then again in the 2nhalf correct score market ... only way...
By:
ALEXANDER_THE_GREEK
When: 09 Nov 09 12:37
full bank lay birmingham score both halves imo
i reckon a 1.02 shot though
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 13:03
Bl Square
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 13:04
layer1982 09 Nov 13:35


lay Brum to score in the 1st half correct score market....and then again in the 2nhalf correct score market ... only way...


????
how do you mean i go into correct score and lay what ?
By:
superbob
When: 09 Nov 09 13:12
hi steve, i guess he means lay 1st half scores that involve brum scoring.
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 13:33
as in lay 0-1 and 1-1

nah the liability is too much if it comes in and they might not score 2nd half then !
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 13:33
as in lay 0-1 and 1-1

nah the liability is too much if it comes in and they might not score 2nd half then !
By:
Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane
When: 09 Nov 09 13:47
wait to see if they score first half then lay them to score next... every time liverpool score then you will win extra...
By:
Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane
When: 09 Nov 09 13:47
i win 1.4k if they do it too.... :)
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 09 Nov 09 13:49
steve - the reason the liability's so high on the hedges suggested is that brum scoring in both halves is such a long shot. they have 4 away goals in 5 outings; the chance of them getting 2 in one game against an above average side who've conceded 4 in 5 home games, AND them coming one in each half is, what? certainly less than 10%, imo.

so unless you find a wrong price somewhere (unlikely) any hedge isn't going to get your total even up over a grand.

your best bet is to just enjoy the 800, mentally discount the other 1900, watch the match, then if brum score in the first half have a plan for what to do before the second half starts.

good luck.
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 13:50
hey Sheriff your 1.3k up right already and you'll win another 1.4k :) very good.

Ive already got 800 but If birmingham score in both halves tonight i'll get an extra 2.7k :)

bl sq wont like us two if it comes in :)

it will be nerve wrecking i dont think i can watch lol :)
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 09 Nov 09 13:51
*sorry, discount 2700 not 1900. rest stands though.
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 13:53
Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane 09 Nov 14:47


wait to see if they score first half then lay them to score next... every time liverpool score then you will win extra...


Sheriff is this what your going to do ?
I dont see many goals in this game all depends if torress plays.
birmingham won 1-0 last time in Anfield

Birmingham are benitez bogey side too. Lost twice and drew 4 against them
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 13:54
Thanks Viva i suppose it all depends if Birmingham score 1st half your right !
By:
Steveirll
When: 09 Nov 09 14:13
terrible nightmare last night Sheriff.

Liverpool & Birmingham were 1-1 at half time.

Birmingham missed a penalty 2nd half and then i woke up screaming and then it was time to go to work.
By:
keliwah
When: 09 Nov 09 16:01
Nice one Steve.

But I have to ask (as I have done many times before in similar threads), why do people include bets in accumulators if they know they'll want to lay it off before the event? It nearly always cost more to lay it off than the bet was worth. I know in this case you have doubles and trebles as well, but the practice of laying off the last bet in an acca is nearly always -EV.

I'd do what a previous poster has said - hope they score in the first half then perhaps you can lay it off for the second half goal.
By:
keliwah
When: 09 Nov 09 16:36
Yeah, so if you don't want to let it ride then if they score in the first half, you should be able to get something like 1.33 on them not scoring in the second half. Put about £2000 on that so you win £660 if they don't score and £700 if they do.

I got the 1.33 from SportingBet. I can't get more than £1 on with them. I'd have a look around at which bookies could offer that market - B365 could be an option. There isn't a market on Betfair that directly corresponds to your bet - you'd have to use the correct score market and dutch every score that doesn't include another Birmingham goal right up to any unquoted for equal profit (use a dutching calculator during half time). That might well give you better odds.

good luck :)
By:
Gary Binosh
When: 09 Nov 09 16:39
if i was in your position steve, as youve already won a good amount, id let it run, and if Birmingham score in the first half then, id lay them to score second half

gl mate
By:
Rictus1
When: 09 Nov 09 16:51
if they score in the first half lay them for the next goal at ht

they score, you make what your lay is,

they concede, u win on next goal so roll profit over and lay again
By:
betfairriver
When: 09 Nov 09 17:02
back over 2.5 goals it may come in and u may still win the other bet
By:
Corky
When: 09 Nov 09 17:03
Birmingham to score in both halves

BWAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHAAAA
By:
keliwah
When: 09 Nov 09 17:04

Rictus1 09 Nov 17:51
if they score in the first half lay them for the next goal at ht

they score, you make what your lay is,

they concede, u win on next goal so roll profit over and lay again


Seems like a complicated and strange way of doing it. How much would you lay for and what price do you think you'd get? And don't you mean "they score, you lose what your lay is"?
By:
sportsjudge
When: 09 Nov 09 17:25
Doing a rough calculation, you have around 130 quid 'stake' money riding tonight, given that odds on Betfair are likely to work out higher than those being offered by Bl Sq, the value of your bet is probably around 100 quid at present, so only real alternative is to hope they score first half.

I would expect they'd be around 3/1 or 4/1 to repeat the feat in the second half.

sj
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