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CAREFREE
05 Nov 09 13:40
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mexico look strong here.
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Report The Dark Satan Mick Mills November 5, 2009 4:14 PM GMT
cmon you lot stop arguing and get on the Extra Time market - there's hardly any liquidity.
Report Trader11 November 5, 2009 4:14 PM GMT
I dont think BF will pay CS 1-1, thats almost for sure.

Match odds will be paid out as it is user responsibility to be up to date with the outcome of the game, and livescrores are often feked up.

Last friday I got screwed up because futbol24 livescore was wrong in the Porto v Belenenses game.
Report Ukmalllia November 5, 2009 4:14 PM GMT
NO CHANCE OF THE BETS BEING VOID CHAPS - THE BETS WILL BE SETTLED ON THE OFFICIAL RESULT (1-1)

Betfair obviously not responsible for the tv feed and even if they did print it, it is as a guide as they say in the terms and should not be relied on.
Report Lori November 5, 2009 4:14 PM GMT
Trader11 05 Nov 17:14
I dont think BF will pay CS 1-1, thats almost for sure.


of course they will, that was the score.

Take Levine/Isner for a precident.
Report Pyrox November 5, 2009 4:15 PM GMT
Match bets will stand, the only way to resolve as has been done in the past. Again, people should watch the match they are livebetting on (or not use bots)
Report Coachbuster November 5, 2009 4:15 PM GMT
unusually i wasnt involved in this matchas i had an old friend call round .

but............ i think BF should cancel all bets on this match placed after the time of the 'offside goal' ...clearly something a miss
Report Watts November 5, 2009 4:15 PM GMT
Sorry, forgot about the unders backers - NICE ONE!! :) :) :)
Report The Mascara November 5, 2009 4:16 PM GMT
IF SOMEONE DID KNOW 1-1 WOULD OF BEEN BACKED LIKE CRAZY BUT ONLY 38 POUND WAS MATCHED AT 1000S OTHER 1000S WAS BACKED AT 20.00 24.00 ETC ETC

I knew they were 1-0 but was just watching the game on TV not betting nor following the market :(
Report The Dark Satan Mick Mills November 5, 2009 4:16 PM GMT
Feel sorry for real punters who suffered, but the bots deserve what they get.
Report E.W.7 November 5, 2009 4:16 PM GMT
of course someone knew the CS as they would be never as much matched as 150 K on 1.01
Report George Formby November 5, 2009 4:16 PM GMT
Feel sorry for real punters who suffered, but the bots deserve what they get.

Seconded.
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 4:17 PM GMT
I had no bot and lay on the draw :-(.... this is unreal
Report Coachbuster November 5, 2009 4:17 PM GMT
sort your English out, Mascara ;)
Report alesi85 November 5, 2009 4:17 PM GMT
BETFAIR DO MILLIONS OF GAME AND MAKE MILLIONS.

BUT THIS 1 GAME WAS SCRWEED UP LIKE I NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

HOW CAN THEY TAKE THE COMMISSIONS KNOWING THE 1.01 BACKERS GOT TOTALLY SCREWED UP.


THE 1-1 LAYERS AT1000S THEY LOST THIER BANKS FOR SURE VERY UNFAIR IF YOU ASK ME.
Report clbb74 November 5, 2009 4:18 PM GMT
lifes unfair
Report Coachbuster November 5, 2009 4:18 PM GMT
i feel sorry for the 1.01/2/3 backers and 1000 layers...
Report Lori November 5, 2009 4:18 PM GMT
Again, see Isner/Levine for the precident.
Report Super Hans November 5, 2009 4:20 PM GMT
Unders resettled correctly.
Report The Dark Satan Mick Mills November 5, 2009 4:20 PM GMT
They should void real punters' bets, and let the bots get shafted
Report flatliner November 5, 2009 4:20 PM GMT
Not Betfair,s problem. ;)
Report Wicklow November 5, 2009 4:20 PM GMT
match bets settled - happy days
Report Coachbuster November 5, 2009 4:20 PM GMT
yes Lori ... what was the eventual outcome in that game ...how were bets settled i mean ?
Report worcester sauce November 5, 2009 4:21 PM GMT
alesi did u watch the game ?
Report STEPTOES YARD November 5, 2009 4:21 PM GMT
Also anyone who puts up a lay at 999 is by definiton risking losing it

He may of course see it as a no lose situation laying 1-1 at 2-0 but then again you could argue that only reason someone backs it is as a mistake or if they are aware of something others arent.
Report Lori November 5, 2009 4:21 PM GMT
They settled it on the official result, as per the rules.
Report STEPTOES YARD November 5, 2009 4:21 PM GMT
Surely EVERY bet you make on here is a gamble
Report Lori November 5, 2009 4:22 PM GMT
I laid Norway for the Nordic Combined at 1000s once because they didn't turn up as they had the flu.

After an hour or so the event was abandoned and rescheduled.

Yeah, that was fun
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
bankrupt for me....incredible mistake from TV,livescores..and so on :-(...i will close my account i think :-(
Report ginge November 5, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
70k 1.01 backer looking for a rope
Report The Dark Satan Mick Mills November 5, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
Correct - I just hate bots :)
Report SQUASH November 5, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
serves the 1000**smoker layer right with his trap bets .
Report Coachbuster November 5, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
backing 1.01s and laying 1000s on dead scores is a risky bet ,yes
Report Ukmalllia November 5, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
Ukmalllia 05 Nov 17:14
NO CHANCE OF THE BETS BEING VOID CHAPS - THE BETS WILL BE SETTLED ON THE OFFICIAL RESULT (1-1)

Betfair obviously not responsible for the tv feed and even if they did print it, it is as a guide as they say in the terms and should not be relied on.


As I said. Betfair can't be held responsible.
Report STEPTOES YARD November 5, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
Bloody hell lori. Didnt think that was your style
Report alesi85 November 5, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
BETFAIR DONT GIVE A F*CK THEY HAVE SETTLED LMFAO HAHHAHA


I SHOUDNT BE LAUGHING THIS IS SAD LOADS OF PEOPLE GOT CONNED OR A FEW LOST THIER BANK.

I HAVE NO DOUBT THE LAYERS OF 1-1 AT 1000S HAVE DEFINATELY WIPED OUT THIER BANK NO DOUBT
Report Lazynative November 5, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
under/over 2.5 now settled as 1-1
Report Lori November 5, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
It's not sy, but, but they had no team there :D

Cue a snowstorm and some brown trousers. Escaped in the end as it did turn out they weren't allowed to participate as it happens but not before i bailed at 250s or so
Report Chasing Mug November 5, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
how is this betfair's fault. the umpires/the game/the TV channels/technical error. what did betfair do?
Report buzzer November 5, 2009 4:25 PM GMT
the punters make the markets, they know the risks they take
Report STEPTOES YARD November 5, 2009 4:25 PM GMT
Might be a few poor buggers who have just turned the tv back on and are wondering why the hell korea and mexico are into extra time at 1-1
Report STEPTOES YARD November 5, 2009 4:25 PM GMT
Agree with buzzer on this one.
Report Mr_Winner November 5, 2009 4:25 PM GMT


Did the layers of Mexico @ 1.01(when it was apparently 2-0) get paid out ??


Report E.W.7 November 5, 2009 4:26 PM GMT
^^^yes 50 k here
Report STEPTOES YARD November 5, 2009 4:26 PM GMT
Layers of mexico should have been paid out
Report flatliner November 5, 2009 4:27 PM GMT
P!ssed off that I was asleep during this :(
Report alesi85 November 5, 2009 4:28 PM GMT
NOT YA FAULT MATE

I THOUGHT IT WAS 2-0 TOO
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 4:28 PM GMT
unreal...bwin cancels the bets when things like this occur
Report unknown007 November 5, 2009 4:29 PM GMT
It is HARSH.........
VERY HARSH..............

Im sure there is some sort of LEGALITY.......... misleading informationa etc etc. All bets that have been affected by the scoreline should be void........
That is the most fairest thing to do
Report Nachete November 5, 2009 4:29 PM GMT
Lesson 1 for in-play traders: NEVER put in a high amount if you're not watching the event.
Report buzzer November 5, 2009 4:29 PM GMT
i was watching and didn't come back on the thread at the time but after a goal is scored they go back to that circle in the middle of the pitch and restart the game
Report Coachbuster November 5, 2009 4:30 PM GMT
vlopes...what happened with you ?
Report STEPTOES YARD November 5, 2009 4:30 PM GMT
It was on tv mate
Report STEPTOES YARD November 5, 2009 4:30 PM GMT
yes vlopes you took a big hit :(
Report lauraben November 5, 2009 4:31 PM GMT
this is truly amazing ,i got paid out on overs and the draw .its about time bf give something back after all those games over the years that had to be suspended due to loss of live feed during in-play . thankyou betfair.
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 4:31 PM GMT
i lost 358...i lay on the draw when it was 2-0 for mexico :-(.... usually other bet houses cancel things like this...for example betfair...
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 4:31 PM GMT
for example bwin
Report Ukmalllia November 5, 2009 4:32 PM GMT
Lauraben, have you reinvested them funds or withdrawn ?
Report birdieforthewin November 5, 2009 4:32 PM GMT
aussies to beat india in cricket...mexico to beat korea ht ft,as the game was "2-0",and aussies had won,i am super gutted..£150 doube to make 600
Report The Magic Flea November 5, 2009 4:33 PM GMT
lauraben
they will reverse your overs. they did with me
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 4:33 PM GMT
however the market's philosofy is diferent in bwin..it's against the house you play
Report STEPTOES YARD November 5, 2009 4:33 PM GMT
Unlucky vlopes :(

Wrong place at wrong time mate
Report crete November 5, 2009 4:34 PM GMT
who do we fancy to win penalties ?
Report buzzer November 5, 2009 4:34 PM GMT
no goals in extra time onto penalties now :)
Report alesi85 November 5, 2009 4:34 PM GMT
1000s layers on 1-1 no doubt are bust

that is sad

even ifyou were watching you would think it was2-0
Report birdieforthewin November 5, 2009 4:34 PM GMT
hope the dog eaters win
Report lauraben November 5, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
i'll check my account ,ive been out the room since match finished.
Report Coachbuster November 5, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
vlopes777º 05 Nov 17:31
i lost 358...i lay on the draw when it was 2-0 for mexico :-(.... usually other bet houses cancel things like this...for example betfair...

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sorry to hear vlopes... its not like you were even being gready or trying to 'steal' money


lamentable scenes
Report Coachbuster November 5, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
*greedy
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
badluck...incredible badluck... from 2-0 with a goal dissalowed and them Korea had the ability to draw the game in minute 91...unreal
Report Lori November 5, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
Why would you lay 1000s on something that couldn't happen unless you're trying to get free money. If they're bust then they should have factored in the risk (I suspect they're not bust at all fwiw)

It's happened before thanks to a disallowed Gerrard goal in a 0-0 draw, I'm sure people learned from that
Report buzzer November 5, 2009 4:36 PM GMT
you wouldn't because they restart with a kick off not a free kick, the market suspended because of the goal then people waited for it to unsuspend and in their mad rush did their cash, sh it happens.
Report Coachbuster November 5, 2009 4:37 PM GMT
i undertsand lori, but in vlopes case he was being anything but greedy
Report clbb74 November 5, 2009 4:37 PM GMT
the best one would be explaining to the wife i lost £19,000 to win £19
Report Lori November 5, 2009 4:37 PM GMT
That's aimed at alesi not vlopes fwiw.
Report The Magic Flea November 5, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
bookies have palpable error to protect themselves, hence they void if price is incorrect.
on betfair it is the resposibility of the backer/layer.

sorry but that is the way it is, and you have to feel for the feckers that lost sh1tloads
Report Coachbuster November 5, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
yes i know lori :) ,but its orinary punters who get caught up in this aswell unfortunately :(
Report lauraben November 5, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
yep your right they have took back overs ,message says ERR 1st time ive seen that.
Report STEPTOES YARD November 5, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
Problem with many footy commentaries now is they aint at the ground. Hence if host broadcaster decides to show 10 replays of a goal before going back to live play its tough for comms.

Happened in a champions league game I was involved in between inter and spartak moscow about 3 years ago where score was wrong
Report alesi85 November 5, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
lori they are bust

when you lay 1000s its coz its impossible and thire thinking yup 2-0 no way can this be 1-1 anymore lol

some are bust mate no doubt
Report birdieforthewin November 5, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
many people will feel like they have been robbed..i do,and there was nothing i could have done to avoid it,well there is i guess...not bet in the 1st place
Report Lori November 5, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
People with the technology to be first in the queue to lay 1000s won't be bust, they'll be down to their last million or two.
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
well...all i can do is hope Korea wins...stupid Mexican kids :-(....lol... if it was christmas maybe BF would cancel the bets
Report birdieforthewin November 5, 2009 4:41 PM GMT
betfair don't give a rats ass...commision is the only thing they care about,there bookmakers..period.
Report Lori November 5, 2009 4:42 PM GMT
In fairness to betfair there's nothing they can do. A bookmaker can use their own funds to say "Tell ya what, we'll give the losers their money back"

With the amounts traded on betfair on each team this isn't possible, and they can't void it because they can't take the money off the winners (unless it's the 2nd test in West Indies and the Indian punters have done their conkers, but hey)

Not nice for the genuine ones I do agree.
Report The Magic Flea November 5, 2009 4:43 PM GMT
must happen sh1tloads in tennis
Report The Magic Flea November 5, 2009 4:43 PM GMT
or horseracing
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 4:43 PM GMT
bye bye mexico :-)...revenge
Report STEPTOES YARD November 5, 2009 4:44 PM GMT
That isne/levine thread is always a good read.

Goes from smugness, to sudden awareness that something aint quite right to outright panic
Report Lori November 5, 2009 4:45 PM GMT
The biggest tragedy of this one is that Schalke isnt on it.
Report Lori November 5, 2009 4:45 PM GMT
That one and the MSE goalscorer one step
Report wilson November 5, 2009 4:46 PM GMT
Lori
Fairness and betfair should not be used in the same sentence. All they crave is commission and premium charges. Customers are treated terribly by the Queens Award To Industry winner.
Report The Betfairy November 5, 2009 4:46 PM GMT
How many times have those 100 layers picked up free mloney on accidental bets?

Swings and roundabouts, imho.
Report The Betfairy November 5, 2009 4:47 PM GMT
* 1000 layers
Report Coachbuster November 5, 2009 4:47 PM GMT
The Magic Flea 05 Nov 17:43
must happen sh1tloads in tennis

________________--

erm ,yep
Report alesi85 November 5, 2009 4:47 PM GMT
fair game is fair game.

but this is a raw deal for those who got mugged
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 4:53 PM GMT
I think they should review things like this so that normal people won't be in ruins by mistakes of TV (specially)... they ought to cancel bets since the 2 goal to avoid colateral damage for these small players....
but that's my single opinion and in spite of been one of those players.....for example if i had won lots of cash with this TV mistake in spite of been angry of my profit been take off its was all for the best off the comunity..i think some accounts will be closed due to bankrupt of some players
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 4:54 PM GMT
well it's life and life is a gamble like BF :-)
Report Trader11 November 5, 2009 4:57 PM GMT
I was watching the game, the score showed 2-0.
TV was showing the replay of 2nd mexican goal, never showed the kick from the middle of the pitch, commentators said it was disallowed but no official confirmation and even they were in doubt.
Thing is that when korea equalized they were celebrating like crazy, which means the score was 1-1 not 2-1 or else they wouldnt celebrate.
Even then I have my doubts as all livescores showed 2-1 and the dead scores and markets on BF pointed to 2-1.
BF unsuspended markets when "2-0" and over 1.5 was already closed. Over 2.5 was being offered at 1.14 which was huge if you think the real score was 1-0 witch just 2 minutes to go.
Don't know about the CS because I didnt watch that market.
Report vlopes777º November 5, 2009 5:04 PM GMT
this is a special situation and it should be taken with extraordinary rules so that users wouldn't be affected for external mistakes
Report oscillate wildly November 5, 2009 8:25 PM GMT
this is sickening. b e t365 showed score as 2-0 so thought nothing more of it, was a winner. saw this thread about an hour later and was absolutely gutted. the salt has now well and trully been massaged into the wounds because i had mexico as part of this accumulator

spain u17- won
roma- won
basel- won
genoa- won
england u16- about to win
villareal- about to win

had my last 18 quid on it and would have paid over 300.
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