Conclusive proof that

And your stakes in each game are ????????

Conclusive ???????

From what I have observed till now, I too would say that the games are random. Prices slightly below true odds + commission = decent long term outcome for liquidity provider(s), be it Betfair or whoever. It's just simple maths.

When we lay a 13.x or 19.x hand and the "impossible" happens and the hand wins, we tend to cry "fixed". But the truth is: If it can happen, it will happen sooner or later. So be clever and try to use this to your advantage!

Cheers and happy punting!

As with anybody else nzbot your entitled to your opinion.My opinion is based on my very very costly period over a sustained time.I play the games in exactly the same way everytime and i play them to large stakes.Infact i can guarantee am the largest punter (fool) on them.I can sit and watch and play the games on paper with ay a 5k bank and win a significant amount of money on numerous occasions.Soon as i depo (and frequently its more than 5k) the cards just become un-playable.You say "if it can happen it will" and i totally agree but for them "happenings" to occur game after game is not just down to bad luck.Sureley you must admit how wrong it is for them to be advertised as EXCHANGE GAMES when in reality wre betting against Betfair.There money runs the Games so what chance have you of winning ??? Disgraceful but like you its just my opinion

For someone who apparently is losing substantial amounts of money on these, bambam seems to have an endless supply of it.
He/she must be awfully good at something else somewhere else, is all I can guess at.
And if that is true, then why does he/she keep pouring good money after bad into something he/she is quite clearly awfully bad at ?

"---on these games, bambam----"

So is it conclusive proof that he/she is an idiot of the first order ?

Like I say Bamdebambam

Just play with a virtual bank
record the data

Play with real money - stakes are irrelevant
record the data

if they do not concur then sue the heck out of Betfair.


Its all cyclic.  so you jump in when the goings good, just in time for the down curve. Before it goes up again you jump off and cry foul.

am I right?

Crawl back in ye hole FAFH.2 people givein there "opinions" in a civil.Ye not welcome on this topic ye kn ob !

Thats an ungodly hour you`ve been on this at FAFH.Sad life you must lead pawin through forums at half 5 in the mornin.You a loneley sad Ba$tard ????

Not everybody is in your time sector bambam. Also I'm a 24/7 robot didn't you realize, programmed to be triggered by asinine posts where and whenever they appear.
But I'd still like to know what it is that you are apparently so very good at, to give you the large sums of money you seemingly keep throwing away on the Xgames.
Not a drug dealer are you ?

Not a Peado are you ?

Bam, I really don't understand why you play if everytime you do you lose? Just don't play!

I agree, the games are completely fair and not fixed at all.

Your entitled to ye opinion Roger.I and many others beg to differ.....Good luck !!!!

Mayway i don`t know either but i go on and on ,on ere,because it`s scandlous what goes on in these Xgames.Betfair have been a breath of fresh air to betting.How excitein it became to lay a horse.Be a bookie.Great great invention but the games are a disgrace.Av said it before and i`ll say it again.....SHAME ON YOU BETFAIR !!!!!!!