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damus
24 Jan 11 19:48
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Being new to Exchange Baccarat could anyone enlighten me why the odds to back the tie when the player stands on 2 cards total 6 or 7 are massively lower than the probality/theoretical odds of the banker drawing a second card resulting in the tie.In virtually every other situation the odds for the tie accurately reflect theb probabilty/theoretical odds of any particular card being drawn and ending the game in a tie.
Is this due to liquidity or bot users?
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Report Grunweld January 27, 2011 4:54 PM GMT
What odds are you talking about?   If you believe the back odds are too low, then lay the tie[;)]
However, I feel you will be disappointed.
Report damus January 27, 2011 5:53 PM GMT
Grunweld
I wish to back the tie after laying in previous round. Only when the player stands on 2 cards 6or7 do the odds of the bankers next card ending the game in a tie show such a massive variance from the true probality/odds of that card being being dealt.Recent example dealer needs to be dealt 2 to tie the game-
20x 2 cards remaining in shoe of 325 cards- Probabilty of 2 being dealt 16.25.Best odds available to back tie 9.05
Report Grunweld January 27, 2011 6:19 PM GMT
So this is in Round 4, when only the Banker will draw another card?
Can you post some recent game numbers  - turbo or standard?
Report Grunweld January 27, 2011 8:22 PM GMT
I just checked a few situations on previous games for player standing with 6 or 7 - and surprise surprise the odds expected were the exactly the average of the back/lay odds offered in the game.

I can't imagine why the odds in your example were quoted.
Report layerofcards January 28, 2011 9:22 AM GMT
Remember that Banker can draw two more cards, so odds for round 4 allows for a possible tie in round 5 if the next card does not result in a tie but meets the Banker third card rules.
Report Grunweld January 28, 2011 9:43 AM GMT
At the start of R4 the banker and player both have 2 cards, so the banker can only draw 1 more card in R5.  So that argument doesn't hold.   Unless you mean the Player will also draw again, but that won't happen here because the player has stood.

There is really no way that the odds suggested by the OP could be offered.  I note he hasn't replied with any game numbers.
Report damus January 29, 2011 10:31 PM GMT
Grunweld
I'll quote 3 examples today 29/01/11
Game 34983485 21.46 pm
Banker to be dealt 6 to tie-6x6 cards in shoe of 74 cards-Best odds to
back tie 7.25
Game 34983590 21.56 pm
Banker to be dealt 6 to tie-4X6 cards in shoe of 53 cards-Best odds to
back tie 7.50
Game 34983722 22.08 pm
Banker to be dealt 5 to tie-2x5 cards in shoe of 28 cards -Best odds to back tie 8.35
Report damus January 29, 2011 10:34 PM GMT
Grunweld
The examples are for turbo Baccarat
Report Grunweld January 30, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
Just to clarify are those odds for R3 or R4. 
In other words can the banker draw 1 or 2 cards?
Report layerofcards February 4, 2011 10:57 PM GMT
Its the same as pocket pair in round 2, the odds will be around 6-8 but there is around 13 to 1 chance, but if you watch the odds round 3, assuming no pair was made the odds increase to the expected 12-16. Betfair don't make that sort of mistake, but keep looking.
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