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14 Jan 10
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Done £10000 on these games in the last 2 days and just can`t believe how obvious it is they are fixed.I`ve read the posts on here and just thought it was peoples pockets speaking.I thought that no way Betfair would rig the results as they can gain commision anyway but having lost 10 grand in 2 days to what can only be described as "remarkable" cards i now firmly believe there fixed.Am not having a moan as its my own fault i played.I just feel av been ROBBED rather than played and lost.These games need shutting down.To many people are now having the same "hard luck ???????" stories but will continue to play because they are compulsive gamblers.Shame on you Betfair
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You wouldn't learn a thing.
He/she is obviously a complete buffoon.
He/she is obviously a complete buffoon.
so u read all these posts saying how people lose money and betfair games is a** so what does sonic the** pot do, bets 10 grand in 2 days! ill give u a choice your either a big fat sad liar or a big fat sad loser with no brain!
Whats best for you benni, paypal or western union, lol.
Thought I'd have a £45 dabble which I'd won from the cricket. Layed 12 hands on poker, 9 of which won. Amazing. Need I say more. Is this really legal?
Back into test mode. No doubt it will start playing normal again as it had for the last 2 days.
OK slaxon :-)
When dealer is holding 7,8 or 9 and best player hand out is 20, lay the dealer 3pts and back the 21 for 1 point. Win goal is 14pts in total. Stop loss is 56pts....once either of these happens stop for the day and come back tomorrow :-)
When dealer is holding 7,8 or 9 and best player hand out is 20, lay the dealer 3pts and back the 21 for 1 point. Win goal is 14pts in total. Stop loss is 56pts....once either of these happens stop for the day and come back tomorrow :-)
34 wins so far today and 3 losers...started bad but got to target and exceeded it quite comfortably now :-)
Thanks, benni. Nice that you are still brave enough to post any idea on here the direction this forum has taken recently. Strategy sounds pretty cool and I can definitley see the reasoning behind it. Thats a great strike rate for today as well! I hope you havnt stuffed up any liquidity for yourself by sharing. I'm gonna investigate further and get back to you. Cheers for a post that is actually, gasp, positive....
FAFH I think your the sad bufoon.Read my post.Am not moanin.It`s my own fault.I am just lettin people read my losses.I believe it adds to those of us who think it`s fixed theory.My loss and i`ll just get on with it.Keep you idiotic non funny remarks for those who are interested
Same goes to you Soccerskills.Am neither of your insults.I am a healthy 15 stone non liar who trains 5 times a week.Now runalong little boy you have to meet that MP at Kings Cross in 20 mins.Good luck you Cheesy Quaver
Yes slaxon positive posts on here are few and far between eh...not gonna mess up any liquidity to for me I no longer operate this one but use other more stronger strats ;-)
i didnt know there was such thing as a healthy 15 stone, unless ur 8 foot! lol and what do u train 5 tims a week lol, trying to lose that xmas belly!!
Lol...Grunweld! Its not a reject...its just 2nd hand ;-)
Oh sorry Sonic.
Congrats on your very impressive losses, which clearly show what a wise, intelligent person you are.
I'm sure by your sharing this experience with us it will help us all tremendously to understand Xgames.
The logic is indisputable. That is because you lost then the games must be fixed.
Thanks again.
Congrats on your very impressive losses, which clearly show what a wise, intelligent person you are.
I'm sure by your sharing this experience with us it will help us all tremendously to understand Xgames.
The logic is indisputable. That is because you lost then the games must be fixed.
Thanks again.
FAFH i`m just offering my "OPINION".Sorry Mr Betfair Employee of the month if my opinion doesn`t match yours
Take no notice of these Betfair employees Sonic.They seem to think that there opinions and there opinions only are the ones that matter.We believe there fixed and thats are "opinion" and we`ll all stick to that.As for Soccerskills he`s new to this forum.Obviously another Betfair employee.Take them with a pinch of salt Sonic
haha u crazy people im not a betfair employee at all, wish i was though so i could see all your accounts and see whos lying and who aint!!
i make about 200- 300 a week on x games, god almmighty i wish my system happened more cause then id be a very very rich man, been doing it 4 about a year now!
i make about 200- 300 a week on x games, god almmighty i wish my system happened more cause then id be a very very rich man, been doing it 4 about a year now!
So if it is so reliable why not increase stakes and get rich?
because of liquidity messes me right up, and thanx 4 the losing system benni!
It doesn't lose overall...it wins! Maybe you just don't have the conditions correct or just not the discipline to MAKE it work???
i have plenty discipline mate i make money weekly on x games hrough discipline!! i was only joiking by the way will try out your system, may add 2 my bank roll, making the trigger is the hard bit though, im useless!
Lol...well it did have a losing day today :-( but this is to be expected every so often! This is why I play with win targets and loss limits ;-)
Glad to hear you are doing well
Glad to hear you are doing well
Benni, methinks your BJ strat would be better if you excluded the dealer having 9 as his first card. As an ace next card would give a full loss with no hope of any trade out to reduce loss.
Have you done the maths for this to see if there is an edge, as I don't really believe that using a stop win/loss method is any good? The strat needs to work continuously, or there is really no point.
Have you done the maths for this to see if there is an edge, as I don't really believe that using a stop win/loss method is any good? The strat needs to work continuously, or there is really no point.
Grun...so you think loss limits and win targets aren't worth bothering with??? These are essentially what all of my gambling is based upon!!
I know what you mean about playing with the 9 as the first card, so it is down to you and others to make the decision whether its just worth playing when 7 or 8 is showing...
Finally, if I work hard to investigate whether or not something has a mathematical edge do you think I would tell you or anybody else for that matter??? DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! Nothing personal ;-)
I know what you mean about playing with the 9 as the first card, so it is down to you and others to make the decision whether its just worth playing when 7 or 8 is showing...
Finally, if I work hard to investigate whether or not something has a mathematical edge do you think I would tell you or anybody else for that matter??? DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! Nothing personal ;-)
And Grunny if you can tinker with that strat in any way shape or form and make it better for you...more power to you!
Just trying to get some ideas flowing on these boards instead of this**/ not fixed BS that has been non stop for a while!
Just trying to get some ideas flowing on these boards instead of this**/ not fixed BS that has been non stop for a while!
Today for instance the count is 25 wins and 2 losses...but it was 24 and 1 at its best...get out while the going is good! ;-)
There is no edge. Down to luck. I've tried this and didn't work for me.
i dont understand how an ace would be a full loss! wouldnt the loss be halved?
well obviously i dont make it on blackjack u numpty lol ive never betted on blackjack not even once! jazza u dont believe me, guess what i dont really care lol!
Jazza...how long did you try it for??? And isn't it all down to luck at the end of the day??? Or maybe its what you do when you have good luck...and when you have bad luck ;-)
Jazza all these Betfair employees claim to be winnin on a weekly basis down to there stratagey.What a load of bo££ox.If that was the case they`d be throwin alot more money at it.Maybe they really do think it`s "fixed"
Benni, I'll stick it on test mode again. See how it goes.
How long did you trial it for??? Not long by the sounds of it!! :-)
Quick check shows its 30 wins and 1 loss today....so on that basis Grun would you keep playing or pack it in for the day??? ;-)
When I tested I found the dealer hitting 20 way too often.
Why pack it in for the day Benni ?
What difference should it make if you stop for 12 hrs or so and then start again ?.
Does the RNG know, or more to the point care, you have had a break ?
As Grunweld quite rightly says , if a strat doesn't work 24/7 then it is intrinsically flawed.
What difference should it make if you stop for 12 hrs or so and then start again ?.
Does the RNG know, or more to the point care, you have had a break ?
As Grunweld quite rightly says , if a strat doesn't work 24/7 then it is intrinsically flawed.
I couldn't be a r s e d to try your BJ strat, Benni, but if the dealer holds 7, then you could also run when the highest player has 19 - might give a few more profitable bets. I haven't done the maths, but if you have, and there is an edge, then you should run it 24/7.
I suspect there is no edge, so your apparent success can only be down to luck. You would only need a few full losses at the start of trading to wipe out a lot of profit.
I suspect there is no edge, so your apparent success can only be down to luck. You would only need a few full losses at the start of trading to wipe out a lot of profit.
Jazza...as stated would finish at +14pts (which is 7 total wins in front, if that makes any sense)
Grun and Botty...we differ too much in our approaches and beliefs of the x-games for us to move forward.
What I was ultimately trying to do is try and set people thinking about what direction I go with the games...if either of you would care to post one of your failed strategies and maybe me or the other guys on herecould make something out of them or just see different variations on what angles people are taking in potentially moving closer to a 24/7 strategy...
Grun and Botty...we differ too much in our approaches and beliefs of the x-games for us to move forward.
What I was ultimately trying to do is try and set people thinking about what direction I go with the games...if either of you would care to post one of your failed strategies and maybe me or the other guys on herecould make something out of them or just see different variations on what angles people are taking in potentially moving closer to a 24/7 strategy...
Todays count so far is 24 wins and 2 losses....but it hit 13 and 0 so we would have made our profit and be out already :-)
Are those full losses of around £-36, for a £6 lay stake, or the reduced loss when 21 came in?
I can see your viewpoint, but if jazza tried it, he would hit 6 full losses straightaway and be finished for the month. lol
Lol...sometimes we have to laugh at ourselves eh guys, or we would end up in tears! :-)
Yep those 2 losses would have been for the combined amount of approx £36...(By the way Jazza feel free to trial this...I don't believe that you are a Jonah ;-) )
Yep those 2 losses would have been for the combined amount of approx £36...(By the way Jazza feel free to trial this...I don't believe that you are a Jonah ;-) )
how much money u made from that system or u still paper trading? i have another new system looks promising!
benni : 1 bad day takes 5 days to recover???
sounds like pot luck me old runner bean,lets just hope the bad run ** doesn't have the forum baying for your blood
sounds like pot luck me old runner bean,lets just hope the bad run ** doesn't have the forum baying for your blood
my only bets on blackjack..were...lay 2x4s..or 3-4...when dealer had a ten.....this proved quite a good bet ....put £150 in got to bout £1200...over 18 months...then over next 3-4 months they were turning into 5 card tricks.....had to stop,they got too consistant....packed up 3 years ago not played since...took £120 back so lost £ 30 in the end.............may be ok now to lay again...
just popped over to watch 4 wins 1 turned into a 5 carder ...my laying of 2x4s or 3-4......
Amazing how you people carry on about this crap,,, why would betfair fiux there games, In january i started with 100$ built it up 2 1450$ cashed out , monday started with 69$ built that up 2 465$ lost the whole lot last night on high low.
Hence i was upset, i took a deck of cards and to my amazement the way i lost i would have lost in a live game.
So why dont all u freeking losers stop complaing about the cash you loose, you all gamble and there is a risk involved the pricing is calculated 100% right with a 1 point margine, for f*&^& sakes when i loose i loose 8x with the currency conversation.
Hence i was upset, i took a deck of cards and to my amazement the way i lost i would have lost in a live game.
So why dont all u freeking losers stop complaing about the cash you loose, you all gamble and there is a risk involved the pricing is calculated 100% right with a 1 point margine, for f*&^& sakes when i loose i loose 8x with the currency conversation.
I agree. There's nothing worse than somebody coming on here to vent their anger after they have loooosed.
What do you mean "loooosed", it should be laaaaaawst.
6-4 benni ....won 3-1 again sunday.......might only get 3 or 4 an hour ...dealer must have 10 nothing less...............
i hour yesterday 44 43 won 4 lost 2 ..inc a 5 carder.in that 2....
depends if you lay off..i was never quick enough on turbo //easier to watch yourself....sometimes its a2 or 3 times an hour event....obviously price drifts out if 7 or 8 hits a 9 or 10 thats your chance to relay it.
Benni!
The cards have no memory so what is the point in stopping or starting at any given point?
The cards have no memory so what is the point in stopping or starting at any given point?
There is an argument that the results do fluctuate around the mean.
All in vain...yes the cards don't have any memory but you can't beat the odds all of the time. Having win goals and loss limits in place is the best way to play and win! :-)
It makes no difference what stop loss and profit limits you set, over time the best you will do is break even, unless you can successfully follow the trends which undoubtedly exist.
see the betfarce stooges have changed their names and preaching the holy grail system still...you can`t win there are no systems only dumb luck....DON`T PLAY..
Grun....you have answered your own prayers there! Haha ;-)
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