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Happysplasher
02 Dec 09 21:57
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Hi all. I've been on xgames (bj and H 'em) for a couple of months now with varying degrees of failiure but I do it because its fun not for an income. I've read loads of your posts which talk about bots and have also read the "Winning on bf for beginers" book which mentions the bots too. Can anyone please give me an idea of what they are all about, where to get them (i've looked on the Dyson and Sinclair websites but they hav'nt got any!) and any general advice. Here's to happy splashing your cash on bf and not to take it too seriously. Thanks

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By:
Jazza
When: 02 Dec 09 22:26
If you enjoy losing money, then you have come to the right place. The games are fixed.
By:
Happysplasher
When: 03 Dec 09 17:37
I think I'm learning that Jazza but I have had some good times. I used to play texas hold'em alot but found the winning system I used suddenly changed overnight. I started playing bj and made a bit by backing the winner every time and quite often got ten in a row - this went on for a while but again changed overnight. I'm not sure how the games are fixed but I agree, there is some sort of outside influence.
By:
Grunweld
When: 03 Dec 09 18:08
Bots:
x-feeder.com
This is the most comprehensive one.

xpokerbot.co.uk
Only plays poker, but seems to be well featured

ultraxtrader.com
Plays everything but card derby. I have used it, but have never been able to set up the strategy I want, as it is limited in some areas.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 03 Dec 09 20:34
Happy
There is no** There is no" outside influence ".
It is simply that the odds you play with are just below true probability.
Nothing more, nothing less is involved.
One thing is for sure is that you will need enormous patience and objctivity to win at the games, if you can ever actually do so, and a bot is absolutely necessary in this sense.
Best of luck with your botting.
By:
Jazza
When: 03 Dec 09 23:38
and plenty of money to lose on the way.......
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 04 Dec 09 05:29
Yeah Jazza whatever.
I think we all know by now that you are unfortunately not ahead on the games.
Please can you change the record occasionally ?.
Logically there must be some winners on the games or they would eventually go extinct, wouldn't they ?
By:
Jazza
When: 04 Dec 09 16:00
I apologise Froggy. Tell me what you want to hear and I will post it, cos that's how it works....NOT.
By:
Jazza
When: 04 Dec 09 16:04
Logically there must be some winners on the games or they would eventually go extinct, wouldn't they ?
Where is the logic there? So you believe the online casinos are straight?
By:
Grunweld
When: 04 Dec 09 16:25
It's just a form of recycling money, with tax paid to Betfair and those bot owners able to get their funds near the front of the queue - a serious inequality, why can't ordinary punters do that? Therefore, everyone else must lose eventually like in a casino where there is an advertised house edge. The games don't need to be fixed.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 04 Dec 09 18:05
Grunweld
Whilst we seem to agree on the**or no**angle, I think we may still differ in opinion on the whole mkt.making bot thing.
Where is the inequality if somebody spends the money, and has the skill, to design a better and faster bot than anybody else and gets to the front of the queue first ?
Are you saying that the whole idea of bots is a basic inequality ?
You may be right but I don't agree.
All I know is that whilst these games may be beatable in some form or manner with a bot, they are abolutely certainly not beatable without a bot. I'm obviously not talking mkt.making bots here.
Jazza
No I don't think the online casinos are straight, or at least not those where you play individual games. But that is not a parallel to the Xgames, where we do not play individual games. We all play the same game at the same time.
By:
Benni Blonko
When: 04 Dec 09 23:52
Just as beatable with or without bots...ludicrous statement imo
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 05 Dec 09 05:07
Exactly, iyo beig the operative phrase.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 05 Dec 09 07:14
Btw Benni I'm not implying my opinion is better than yours or vice versa.
By:
Benni Blonko
When: 06 Dec 09 17:21
Yes but you don't express your views as your opinions but absolute fact! Therein lies the issue ;-)
By:
winterwooksie
When: 06 Dec 09 17:44
re: Where is the inequality if somebody spends the money, and has the skill, to design a better and faster bot than anybody else and gets to the front of the queue first ?


It is impossible to get to the front of the market. Betfair freely admit that there own `bot` operates in this market, effectvely taking all the money.
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