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Well last night was thrilling stuff and tonight looks like it might be equally as dire. I know Silverback is sweet on a lot tonight but personally I'm really not. here's the line up though 
Mark Webster v Mensur Suljovic:
Opening match sees former world champion Webster take on The Gentle Mensur Suljovic. Webster has had a miserable few months and hasn't really ever recovered from an awful showing in the premier league. I think he's a very solid player but for whatever reason it's just not really happening for him just now. Suljovic is an odd player to watch with an unorthodox action and is very solid. However he can play some decent darts at times and I think he might be able to take advantage of Webster's low confidence.
Recommendation: 0.5pt win Mensur Suljovic @ 13/8 (General)
Gino Vos v Royden Lam:
Evening's qualifier sees dutchman Vos take on Hong Kong's Royden Lam. Gonna have a small play on this on Lam based on the fact I really don't rate Vos at all and think he's priced up as fav on the fact the bookies have actually heard of him. Lam actually earned a tour card this year at Q-School but only played 3 events so no real form but he came through the qualifier with relative ease it seems and I think he's a live outsider.
Recommendation: 0.5pt win Royden Lam @ 6/4 (SJ)
James Wade v Darren Webster:
I think over time I must have laid Wade at ludicrously short odds more times than any other player pre match and no matter how badly he plays I never seem to collect. He's had well documented issues with bipolar and while I do feel for the guy I don't think it excuses some of his behaviour on the oche when he demonstrates a lack of respect towards most opponents. Yet again I think he looks very short here but is Webster the man to take advantage? He's a former QF at the worlds but the depth in that time was dreadful and he showed his form last year when losing to Mark Walsh in R1. Wade will probably average mid 80's and somehow win 3-0 but I'll be watching not punting.
Recommendation: No Bet
Wes Newton v Vos/Lam:
Newton falls very much into my list of players who thinks they're much better than they are. He's an ok player but I don't think he screams major winner of any tourney let alone a World Championship. Hard to say what will happen till opponent is known but maybe lay the whitewash which has been a decent ploy this year.
Recommendation: No Bet
Kevin Painter v Tomas Seyler:
Tournament finally comes alive with the appearance of King Muttley himself and I for one cannot wait to see him lick his fingers and snarl at the board. In all seriousness I don't think Painter is going to be improving much and while he still wins the odd game on tv I am dubious as to whether he has a run to the later stages nowadays. He plays german qualifier Seyler who hasn't been here in 4 years when he lost in the prelim match and I doubt he will be progressing past R1 here. Struggling to find a bet here so will probably be in my bed before they come on.
Recommendation: No Bet
Summary: Couple of plays on 2 outsiders tonight but not majorly strong on anything. I'll probably also get sucked into laying Wade at 1.1x and doing it in but hey ho. All bets and banter as welcome as always and I await Silverback sharing his thoughts with interest
HH
Mark Webster v Mensur Suljovic:
Opening match sees former world champion Webster take on The Gentle Mensur Suljovic. Webster has had a miserable few months and hasn't really ever recovered from an awful showing in the premier league. I think he's a very solid player but for whatever reason it's just not really happening for him just now. Suljovic is an odd player to watch with an unorthodox action and is very solid. However he can play some decent darts at times and I think he might be able to take advantage of Webster's low confidence.
Recommendation: 0.5pt win Mensur Suljovic @ 13/8 (General)
Gino Vos v Royden Lam:
Evening's qualifier sees dutchman Vos take on Hong Kong's Royden Lam. Gonna have a small play on this on Lam based on the fact I really don't rate Vos at all and think he's priced up as fav on the fact the bookies have actually heard of him. Lam actually earned a tour card this year at Q-School but only played 3 events so no real form but he came through the qualifier with relative ease it seems and I think he's a live outsider.
Recommendation: 0.5pt win Royden Lam @ 6/4 (SJ)
James Wade v Darren Webster:
I think over time I must have laid Wade at ludicrously short odds more times than any other player pre match and no matter how badly he plays I never seem to collect. He's had well documented issues with bipolar and while I do feel for the guy I don't think it excuses some of his behaviour on the oche when he demonstrates a lack of respect towards most opponents. Yet again I think he looks very short here but is Webster the man to take advantage? He's a former QF at the worlds but the depth in that time was dreadful and he showed his form last year when losing to Mark Walsh in R1. Wade will probably average mid 80's and somehow win 3-0 but I'll be watching not punting.
Recommendation: No Bet
Wes Newton v Vos/Lam:
Newton falls very much into my list of players who thinks they're much better than they are. He's an ok player but I don't think he screams major winner of any tourney let alone a World Championship. Hard to say what will happen till opponent is known but maybe lay the whitewash which has been a decent ploy this year.
Recommendation: No Bet
Kevin Painter v Tomas Seyler:
Tournament finally comes alive with the appearance of King Muttley himself and I for one cannot wait to see him lick his fingers and snarl at the board. In all seriousness I don't think Painter is going to be improving much and while he still wins the odd game on tv I am dubious as to whether he has a run to the later stages nowadays. He plays german qualifier Seyler who hasn't been here in 4 years when he lost in the prelim match and I doubt he will be progressing past R1 here. Struggling to find a bet here so will probably be in my bed before they come on.
Recommendation: No Bet
Summary: Couple of plays on 2 outsiders tonight but not majorly strong on anything. I'll probably also get sucked into laying Wade at 1.1x and doing it in but hey ho. All bets and banter as welcome as always and I await Silverback sharing his thoughts with interest
HH
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Sound Gotta get myself one of them r they easy to set up?
Woops your correct Bhoys, we do get Box nation 
...I never really watch that channel ..so forgot there ..Last thing I watched on Box nation was some argie footy match back in september 
...I never really watch that channel ..so forgot there ..Last thing I watched on Box nation was some argie footy match back in september
Bob I got some chap around my town to set mine up ...Just pay him a set price ..which was £200 for me ..And he will get the box himself and install it ..with that £200 it lasts a year ..then you have to pay the installer £50 quid every year onwards for updates etc :)
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'Newton hasn't helped himself'
oh, he has helped himself alright.
oh, he has helped himself alright.
I'm not sure about Painter here. I think he could lose.
I think there is a small possibility he could lose, but most likely he will win.
Rod told me that painter could have a bit of trouble on his hands here
So he's backed 3-0
So he's backed 3-0
If he doesn't win 3 sets out of 5, he will most definitely lose.
every time iv`e seen painter this year,he`s been worse than useless,he looks a troubled human being
Dec 19, 2013 -- 11:29PM, RMB © wrote:
She's quite butch this lesbian.
I think this guy will give painter a game, seen him a few times and he can play, dont no if he can win but 1.18 for painter is ridiculas
what sort of player is the German? I've never seen him play before
mardles dft as a brush but strikes me as a nice guy
Yeah, his commentary has gone up a notch too (From zero to one, but it's a start)
Oh no wait i havent seen this guy before 
, was thinking of mahut
, was thinking of mahut
Hope painter gets through here, always a decent watch
must admit i didnt have painter 1/6 and did lay some
(aftertiming)
(aftertiming)
Agreed Step. Also glad this is over. Still love the darts but really think the first round is too long.
The blond one is yes.
The blond one is yes.
Too long in days, not matches. Bring back afternoons :P
think the racing post said something about seyler having qualified in some very weak fashion, 11th on euro order of merit or something
she must skint , why on earth would she suffer going about with him
Yep, flicked in and out of it this week lori. Long old stretch tonight. Nearly 6 hours.
Hopefully some better games this weekend.
Do prefer to see some of the characters do well and progress.
Hopefully some better games this weekend.
Do prefer to see some of the characters do well and progress.
All ready for the big bash and the big Saffer weather ramp tomorrow Step?
That's the sort of commentary I'd rather hear (Players like to move left to right etc). It's still moderately trivial, but at least it attempts to convey information.
his face is a bit like the Gungan man from Star Wars
Not a huge 20/20 man lori, record pretty mixed on it at times. Will no doubt take some of it in over next few weeks.
Saffer test interesting. Fancy saffers will bowl india out pretty cheap 2nd time round so get close on 1st innings and fancy they win.
Saffer test interesting. Fancy saffers will bowl india out pretty cheap 2nd time round so get close on 1st innings and fancy they win.
really shouldnt have layed painter here but had an ok night
india done well today ,South Africa went from 130 for 1 , to 146 for 6, in 6.3 overs
definitely agree that the first round goes on too long , should cut it by 2 or 3 days to be honest
motr importantly sickos gone one night without eating biscuits mince pies various goodies
I was sick. Laid 7.0 on the 2nd wicket and it was still 7.8 after five lol
and why have a break after the first and second sets ?? just play ffs
Used to prefer it when more of tournie was after xmas. Used to be only the first round before and ended around 3rd or 4th jan
although sometimes it helps to have a breather to balance a book
the atmosphere has gone dead in there , many left to get the last tube home i reckon
they've stretched it out so Sky can capitalise on its popularity
seyler ahead on 180s count, frustrating if your on painter id say
Seyler was never going to win this. Easy money.
Dec 19, 2013 -- 11:24PM, Srichaphan or Ancic? wrote:
I'm not sure about Painter here. I think he could lose.
OH REALLY
this guy's terrible. hard to believe they won the war.
Went to the boozer after the second set and couldn't take my minces off the TV screens hoping to see Wade hit the 2.5+ 180's - I cringed when Webster had those darts to put the game to bed...I got very lucky there.
Sometimes it's very stressful waiting for the next 180 hoping you don't run out of legs...considering how much I dislike Wade, I'm still wondering just why I made it my final leg - I need my bumps feeling...especially as I didn't think 8/13 was good value
That situation reminded me of last night when I was hoping Silverback got his second max from Peter Lorre (aka Mr.Moto) who actually had just the two attempts to hit the third treble and nailed both (I'm sure Silver was also feeling very fortunate) so for all the times I whine to myself about a dozen attempts missed for just one more maximum, I'll have to humbly remember this night when my Nemesis did me a favour though I'm STILL waiting for one from Taylor
PS - I bet some of you big hitters are in bulk at me sweating for less than two ton when that's your minimum stake but I'm sure D&B will have some empathy
Sometimes it's very stressful waiting for the next 180 hoping you don't run out of legs...considering how much I dislike Wade, I'm still wondering just why I made it my final leg - I need my bumps feeling...especially as I didn't think 8/13 was good value
That situation reminded me of last night when I was hoping Silverback got his second max from Peter Lorre (aka Mr.Moto) who actually had just the two attempts to hit the third treble and nailed both (I'm sure Silver was also feeling very fortunate) so for all the times I whine to myself about a dozen attempts missed for just one more maximum, I'll have to humbly remember this night when my Nemesis did me a favour though I'm STILL waiting for one from Taylor
PS - I bet some of you big hitters are in bulk at me sweating for less than two ton when that's your minimum stake but I'm sure D&B will have some empathy
Stake size in gambling empathy should be irrelevant.
I've spent many a day in Vegas sportsbooks sweating a bet of $200-300 while the guy next to me on one side has bet $20 and the other side has bet $20,000 (seriously) and we're all in it together. Everyone bets enough that it hurts if they lose but is worth it if they win (not everyone, but you know what I mean).
I've spent many a day in Vegas sportsbooks sweating a bet of $200-300 while the guy next to me on one side has bet $20 and the other side has bet $20,000 (seriously) and we're all in it together. Everyone bets enough that it hurts if they lose but is worth it if they win (not everyone, but you know what I mean).
Cheers Lori...I don't feel as much of an outcast now
Just how did Houdini do it YET again?
I read your post (below) and you totally nailed it there squire.
"I think Wade gets away with it because (although not applicable today), no matter how bad he throws, his doubling rarely goes to crap. Means if the underdog does get nervy, he will often have an out.
Compare to someone like Gary Anderson who can batter you and still lose"
I don't care if his figures say something like 20% checkout success...it's always when it really matters he hits them - he'll haemorrhage darts at the double in a rogue losing leg and that will totally skew the stats.
I wonder if Silverback has any notes on players continually winning yet having match darts against them?
I suspect nobody would get near Houdini.
Just how did Houdini do it YET again?
I read your post (below) and you totally nailed it there squire.
"I think Wade gets away with it because (although not applicable today), no matter how bad he throws, his doubling rarely goes to crap. Means if the underdog does get nervy, he will often have an out.
Compare to someone like Gary Anderson who can batter you and still lose"
I don't care if his figures say something like 20% checkout success...it's always when it really matters he hits them - he'll haemorrhage darts at the double in a rogue losing leg and that will totally skew the stats.
I wonder if Silverback has any notes on players continually winning yet having match darts against them?
I suspect nobody would get near Houdini.
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