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Plaza should go in the break for KOM points
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Plaza not in the break, Fraile being in the break should secure KOM for him.
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Plaza hasn't made the break but good news for MC is that Rolland has! So looks a good shout for this one though only five in the break with another five chasing, think they will need the 10 together to make it work. Still not sure the break will win the day as the gc riders are really going to attack the final climb knowing it could be the last chance to put serious time in to Dumoulin.
I wonder if Quintana will think of doing a long attack like his race winning move at the giro last year?? He seems to be getting stronger now and a big attack would be his only chance of overall victory. At the giro he attacked on the descent before the final climb, if he is in shape it could be a good place for him and Valverde to launch a move here? backed Quintana 11/2. May add a rider or two from the break later. |
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I have a feeling Quintana will rise from the ashes today.
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Movistar did most of the work yesterday in controlling the break before the final climb. He will probably need to rely on other teams helping to chase the break today if he wants to win the stage.
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10 riders in the break. They already have 8:30 after 20km.
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And Pierre Rolland is in there for MC.... 150/1 looks a good investment now !
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Indeed, Chapeau mc!
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Already 16 mins for the break!
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This could be handy, 19 mins up with 82km left. Torres and Schleck probably the main dangers in this group?
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At 150/1 Rolland would represent the biggest priced tip on this forum should he do the business for MC, certainly the biggest price since we've formed this loose association of forum regulars from the old forum. I think MC, you had a 200/1 pop landed on place terms in the Tour?
Rolland is essentially riding against inferior opposition, he is the class rider, but there are some plucky climbers with him so it's not assured. Not having any bets at ante-post, I'm more than happy to sit back and cheer on MC's hope, but there may be some other options which might be interesting IR. |
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The bookies are making Rolland 3rd faav in this group behind Torres and Schleck!! Personally i'd have him as fav here so good luck MC.
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Schleck -- hasn't had a win since his Nationals RR in 2014. He was building some form in his last start before the Vuelta, the Tour of Utah, but he could only manage a 4th place, with Berhane beating him but Schleck beating Horner. Even if he is on good sensations, I don't think he can still take multiple hits and have a kick.
Torres -- even though he is 28yo and approaching his prime as a rider, he doesn't have much experience in the pro ranks, and I think he might struggle in the pressure-cooker atmosphere of a big climb in a GT. Can't believe he is the favourite presently, but not laying. Rolland -- is better than Pinot, imo. Was in the breakaway yesterday, which is about all he has done in this race, but it shows he is feeling strong and motivated for a stage win. Multiple Tour stage winner, top 10 performer in multiple GTs. 2nd favourite at better than 3/1 looks very inviting, on here. Taking some of that for a trade and outright. Fraile -- has two pro wins, however neither of those two wins have been on gradient such as this. I think the combination of gradient and distance will hurt him. |
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Yes, I agree HB, Rolland should be the clear favourite here -- can't work out why he isn't, though?
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I'd have Moser better than Schleck, Torres, and Fraile.
Moser -- showed his climbing credentials when he placed 3rd on the Alp d'Huez stage in the 2013 Tour, and whilst he hasn't done much since then, he is only a 24yo, so he might be coming back into it and therefore is a rider with more promise than the three aforementioned. KAT riding like they have the Virtual Leader in Purito! Love it! |
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SwingingPick • September 7, 2015 3:18 PM BST
Rolland -- is better than Pinot, imo. lol. I remember your posts from the tour about Pinot. You must of posted "Pinot is a bum " about five or six times. Then he won stage 20 to alp d'huez holding off a charging Quintana. |
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Moser finished 3rd on the Alp d'Huez stage (where they climbed it twice) albeit from a 3 man break. He hasn't really gone on with it after getting some good results a few years back including winning the tour of Poland beating Kwiatkowski. He has shown a few good signs recently but still is an unknown quantity on long steep climbs. He bridged across to the initial break today so he may be keen to do something so I'm happy to have him onboard.
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get in Vakoc
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This is TCS going ALL IN -- desperate stuff -- but how is it going to work exactly, if Majka doesn't take it up at the bottom of the final climb?
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I think Tinkoff have got it right really laying it down here and surprised Katusha/ Astana/ Movistar aren't helping more, as this is the way to really hurt Dumoulin by putting the pace on now with the 3 very hard climbs to tackle in quick succession.
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I would've thought this final climb is difficult enough for Dumoulin to come unstuck today, but if he is gone today completely than no nice trades in the ITT as he lights up the course. Anyway, as I suspected TCS have retreated back into the fold, so it was just a bit of nonsense, but it did reveal to us that he is on good sensations, so they are pretty helpful in letting us know that.
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*Majka.
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Looks like definitely not Rollands day unlucky MC. Frank Schleck looking strong here.
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Found something about Torres -- 2nd in San Luis at the start of the year, on a summit finish, with 13 secs on Quintana in 4th -- average of that 16kms climb at 7.8%. Schleck looking like the Frank of old who never reached his brother's success -- second vintage?
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Does Schleck still have bury-mode ability? Torres just sitting there, but he is not at all that comfortable, while Schleck is up for some real suffering, and has been on the front since making the selection. Until now...
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Looks like the books had it right between Torres and Schleck!
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Yes, entirely. 1st and 2nd favourites.
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Rolland. There goes my Island in the sea.
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I think the market likes Torres for the 21% with 3 kms to go -- suggesting he likes the mountain-goat gradient. That'll do me -- I'm on Torres!
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1,12 matched on torres. damm i was on 1,11
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Plenty of room to 1.5 available.
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Dumoulin should now be favourite for this Vuelta
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FFS Schleck was on my shortlist for today as well
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Talked myself out of that...
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Aru getting shuffled back, again today.
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Dumoulin
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Zubedlia and Schleck! It must be 2003
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Dubious from Schleck
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Astana the tactic masters
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