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The Dragon
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Starts shortly in India.

First game England v New Zealand and same format as in 2019.

I think Pakistan might have gone under the radar here.

Very strong bowling attack, used to conditions and if batting goes well they must have a good chance . I am on at 8/1.

Aussies also always go well so backed them with a view to trade towards the end of the tourney and see how it goes.

India look a lay to me. Just walloped by the aussies, a number of injuries to key players and look an ageing team. I have layed them.

England are the puzzle. Could win it but defo got lucky last time. I have layed them.

New Zealand always fall short and maybe just not quiet good enough.

saffers serial bottlers and cant have them.

The rest could cause a few surprises along the way but cannot see a winner there.

Good luck whatever you go for and thoughts and views welcome.
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Report Hayden November 11, 2023 11:50 AM GMT
They needed to bat first and win by 287 runs
Report Hayden November 11, 2023 11:52 AM GMT
Batting 2nd option has already passed , they needed to bowl England out for 50 and get the run inside 2 overs.
Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2023 1:39 PM GMT
So they had no chance then Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2023 1:40 PM GMT
Well done to NZ

They still have a chance although form says otherwise
Report SontaranStratagem November 11, 2023 11:36 PM GMT
India NZ
SA Australia

I'm gonna say SA to complete a rugby and cricket world cup double
Report mafeking November 12, 2023 2:56 PM GMT
new zealand really need cabbage patch pitches to even up the contests. on a true surface their lack of scoring power likely to be exposed
Report SontaranStratagem November 12, 2023 5:28 PM GMT
Agree on that

India are unstoppable at the minute, its ridiculous scoring from them, maximum wins and I think theyve had 3 400+ scores ?
Report Hayden November 12, 2023 7:19 PM GMT
This was their first 400+ score SS , previous highest 357 but tbf they've only batted first on 4 occasions , chased 5 times.

Think you have to go with a leap of faith for an outright bet , India's bowlers or Australia's batters and at the prices i'd have to go the latter.

No disrespect to the other two but hope that's the final.
Report SontaranStratagem November 12, 2023 10:25 PM GMT
Ah thought it was more than 1 , cheers

Id side with India but Australia do have meaty batters

South Africa have been good bar one game vs India
Report Whisperingdeath November 13, 2023 11:30 AM GMT
I think if is too difficult to call yes India should win and have it all bug if NZ get them early under lights anything can happen. I think SA have a harder hitting batting order than any of them . Again get Aus under lights and if is a different ball game.

Plenty to look forward to. My gamble on NZ failed and I am looking at a potential loss. They started so well but the loss of Matt Henry has weakened the intensity of their attack. Hoping NZ can bat first and put up a score so J can get better terms for my surrender
Report brain dead jockeys November 14, 2023 6:00 PM GMT
nz should not be 5/2 against india. anything can happen in a 1 day international. there have been some big surprises in this world cup so far.
Report brentford November 14, 2023 10:37 PM GMT
tend to agree bdj...

India are a juggernaut in these conditions and clearly could be a demolition but you actually look at some of the matches they've played, as is inevitable in this format it's got quite tight at times...

Eng went 1/3 ish against them at start of Eng's inns...Aus must have gone close to evens when they took 3 early on against them ...NZ must have got around evens during the Indian chase in their game...

NZ never seems to get the respect they're due at these tournies ...
Report SontaranStratagem November 15, 2023 3:48 AM GMT
My main worry with India is theyre 100% record, it's better to have lost a couple as it takes any complacency of their game, a bit more battle hardened and focused

Win after win like there's can be a negative heading into a big semi final, they'll be expecting to turn up and roll them over
Report brentford November 15, 2023 8:12 AM GMT
the expected pitch changed in the build up to the match at the direction of the BCCI for a well used wicket for a World Cup SF...not quite the done thing..

surely some impartiality from the tournament director or similar should have been preventing an occurrence like that...
Report SontaranStratagem November 15, 2023 1:22 PM GMT
Im not to fussed about that really, they are the hosts and its their home World Cup

Id have been pushing for our strengths in the pitch if it was our World Cup
Report Whisperingdeath November 15, 2023 2:00 PM GMT
I don't like India cheating but quite frankly the only way NZ could have won is batting first and they lost the toss! End of!

How good are India! If we can forget the people who run their cricket and are ruining the game their team is awesome! I want to see them play Aussie in Aus again and SA in SA! Test Matches proper cricket. Rabadaboo, Nortje, Coetzee, Jansen and Starch, Hazelwood, Cummings and whoever at Perth and the Gabba!
Report Whisperingdeath November 15, 2023 2:14 PM GMT
RTeally missed out again Sonts.

NZ went up to 130
Report Whisperingdeath November 15, 2023 2:39 PM GMT
I love these Kiwi's

down to 13.5 again!
Report SontaranStratagem November 15, 2023 5:00 PM GMT
I dont think its cheating its home advantage and setting it up as such

Its why winning it on foreign soil is harder to do in cricket and fair play to India theyve still had to get it done, theyve been excellent and the best side by a fair way

Theyre one match from winning every game at a canter almost

And yes we missed out on some big prices again Sad
Report brentford November 15, 2023 10:40 PM GMT
Fortunately didn't have any real impact on the game as the surface played ok through both inns..

I think personally utilising home advantage in home series whether white or red ball is perfectly acceptable, most teams do it to some extent...

not sure it should be happening at an ICC tournament where you are the host not the home team as such ...

but especially if that includes over riding the guidance agreements put in place for the tournament that stated the SF would be played on a fresh pitch, the square number having even been allocated in advance and then the BBCI who think (and sadly they are right) they can just do as they choose and over ride such things. It would have been a great shame if it had taken the gloss off what is an absolutely top class India side...
Report Try My Best November 15, 2023 11:04 PM GMT
India and SA have been the best sides in the competition and Aus will have to put together a really good team performance where everybody contributes to get past this one. Zampa and Hazelwood have been excellent but Starc needs to up his bowling and economy rate and I can see SA really getting after him and getting off to a flyer.We can beat anybody on our day but this is going to be one tough game. What a side India are. Fully expect them to win the trophy.
Report The Dragon November 16, 2023 3:24 PM GMT
yup cant see passed an india win now
Report The Dragon November 16, 2023 3:25 PM GMT
1.52 looks likee a decent bet. not lost a game yet and look better then other sides.
Report The Dragon November 16, 2023 3:28 PM GMT
got my lay of England. but rest been not so good

most disappointing have to be Pakistan who never turned up
Report The Dragon November 16, 2023 4:45 PM GMT
born losers saffers
Report Try My Best November 16, 2023 4:51 PM GMT
Bloody hell. I have no nails left. SA will be ruing the missed catches. Starc stepped up to the plate & Hazelwood was magnificent. God knows what Marnus and  Smith were playing at and you expect better from them. Still another final so well done lads.
Report Hayden November 16, 2023 5:43 PM GMT
Madness to bet pre-match on the final for me and any bet has any low lay in-play , it's all about the day and either of Maxi , Head or Marsh can make odds look ridiculous.

Although not really reflected by the odds that was as tense a couple of hours you could imagine , it's not all about clearing the rope.


May the best team win on Sunday , can't wait   Happy
Report SontaranStratagem November 16, 2023 6:30 PM GMT
Aussies make another final, and theyve been solid so hopefully they make a game of it in the final

Still think its Indias from here but you cant write the Aussies off, they’re the most successful odi side in history and this is just another final for them

Will Aussies prefer chasing in the final?
Report Hayden November 16, 2023 7:15 PM GMT
Don't think any team particularly likes chasing in a win or bust game SS , runs on the board in a final are deemed a good advantage providing the score is at least par and there's no rain about.
Report brentford November 16, 2023 7:20 PM GMT
not sure how much dew has been about in Ahmedabad...3 out of 4 chasing wins in the tourny...

judging by the SF stuff wouldn't be too keen on opposing India until the pitch report...
Report The Dragon November 17, 2023 4:50 PM GMT
India have won every game and will probably be too strong for the oz... but you never know in a final

should be a good watch
Report SontaranStratagem November 18, 2023 10:51 PM GMT
It would be sport if India's only none win was the final
Report SontaranStratagem November 18, 2023 10:53 PM GMT
So on that im backing Australia at 3.2 despite thinking India will win

Its a final and Australia are a good side, you cant write them off and its a one off game
Report Try My Best November 19, 2023 3:52 AM GMT
Aus have it all to do and we don't play spin well enough in these conditions. I just hope we have a go and try to attack against their pace.
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 8:58 AM GMT
This could be a great final. Dew will give Aus a chance but a real shame the wicket is a slow low one.

The two best sides by far.

I am on overs at the moment 312-322 range but will look at unders if the time is right… low, slow and soft ball reversing.

Tough to predict what will happen
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 9:05 AM GMT
Both sides have done their homework

as J said J hope the pitch does not ruin this.
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 9:08 AM GMT
Keep an eye on the bowlers footmarks too. I might be a little worried if zi were Aus. It will spin but at least they can reverse a dry ball
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 9:17 AM GMT
Could sense that wicket but now Iyer has time to play himself in with Kohli. I’d say Aus desperately need that 3rd wicket now. Interesting to see how Zamoa goes after SA treated him so disdainfully but India are mainly Right handed. I would throw Jadeja in early if Zamoa gets on top
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 9:19 AM GMT
Well that makes a huge difference

Game on and pitch will come into play soon
Report The Dragon November 19, 2023 10:03 AM GMT
115 for 3 off 20.00
good start by oz
Report The Dragon November 19, 2023 10:04 AM GMT
kholi is key now
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 10:07 AM GMT
Iyer was a big kiss so soon but Rahul is also a power hitter and classic batter when required. Wickets are absolutely crucial as thus will be difficult to come in and score runs quickly.

Evenly poised. India need to push singles to open up the field. Aus need to stop the boundaries as they are doing now
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 10:09 AM GMT
These Indian batsmen are cool cucumbers but as Rohit said when you play for India you are always under pressure so a World Cup Final is no different
Report The Dragon November 19, 2023 10:57 AM GMT
they need rahul to come good here
Report The Dragon November 19, 2023 11:32 AM GMT
this could end up as a similar score to the last final in england
Report The Dragon November 19, 2023 11:32 AM GMT
197 for 5 10 overs to go
Report The Dragon November 19, 2023 11:33 AM GMT
run a ball will give them 257
Report sageform November 19, 2023 11:41 AM GMT
I would strongly fancy Aus now although batting is getting harder.
Report The Dragon November 19, 2023 11:41 AM GMT
raul goneShocked
Report The Dragon November 19, 2023 11:41 AM GMT
only bowlers left now
Report The Dragon November 19, 2023 11:43 AM GMT
india still favs not sure why tbh
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 11:44 AM GMT
That might prove a decent innings from Rahul. Easy to say he should have rotated strike more and gone after the part timers.

Excellent from Aus and Cummings in particular

Deck Kabour the Drs now. I would expect Aus to launch at the start to unnerve the J Dian attack bug that comes with its risks. Ironically Smiff and Labuschagne, one of whom should not be playing mag prove pivotal if Aus are to chase these down
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 11:45 AM GMT
Not sure why India are heavy favourites still
Report The Dragon November 19, 2023 11:52 AM GMT
yes very odd
Report The Dragon November 19, 2023 11:54 AM GMT
maybe the dew factor and the wicket is the key here
Report Hayden November 19, 2023 11:57 AM GMT
Agree Smith & Labuschagne could be the key here , chasing a 90% strike rate will suit them both and they can play cricket shot almost in test match mode , a good pp will give them license for just that.

1.28 to 2.02 so traders are already happy  Happy
Report elisjohn November 19, 2023 12:06 PM GMT
bar sharma, tbh the rest froze in their biggest ever 50 over match
Report Hayden November 19, 2023 12:18 PM GMT
If he comes in and hits the winning run along with his insertion and bowling then Captain Cummins will be a super hero
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 12:27 PM GMT
I do not think this a good score even if it proves to be a winning score. India did not put Aus under pressure after Rohit was out and they had too many dot balls despite getting over 100 in singles.

Australia and Cummings Captaincy were quite brilliant starting with the fielding, research on where to deploy fielders and where and how to bowl to batsmen. The bowlers did their part.
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 12:39 PM GMT
The ball should swing under lights conventionally but Aus will be going hard from the off. I expect fireworks either way!
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 12:40 PM GMT
Dew all about the dew I think
Report kingscrewed November 19, 2023 12:50 PM GMT
First 10 over run line at 53, think Aus will try and break the back early and look to get 60 plus unless wickets tumble. Think might be prudent though to out smith ir Marnus upto 3 and the other at 5 or 6 to anchor 1 end.
Report Try My Best November 19, 2023 1:02 PM GMT
Horrendous from Warner. Absolutely no need
Report Try My Best November 19, 2023 1:17 PM GMT
Dear God
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 1:20 PM GMT
Laugh

I cannot imagine being an Indian or an Aus right now!

Emotion had taken over. Smifff and Labuschagne will calm it down
Report sageform November 19, 2023 1:21 PM GMT
Didn't see the first wicket but Marsh was awful. No need to slog when you only need 5 an over.
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 1:25 PM GMT
Low scoring game is so much more fun except if you COPD of the like!
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 1:30 PM GMT
This is a great game.
Report Try My Best November 19, 2023 1:31 PM GMT
we are going to get blown away here. Brain dead cricket
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 1:33 PM GMT
Brain dead non review!

Need someone to take a deep breath!
Report kingscrewed November 19, 2023 1:34 PM GMT
Shocking not reviewing was obvious worst case was umpires call.
Report SontaranStratagem November 19, 2023 1:35 PM GMT
The bet looked good 30 minutes ago Laugh
Report elisjohn November 19, 2023 1:35 PM GMT
i said beginning of this tournament Smith shouldnt be anywhere near the 50 over side, hes been poor, at least labus is a fab fielder
Report kingscrewed November 19, 2023 1:41 PM GMT
4 bye in the last over could be massive took some of the pressure off
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 2:02 PM GMT
AC/DC 49 years on

Kwality
Report sageform November 19, 2023 2:20 PM GMT
Keep batting like this. 5 per over wins it easily.
Report sageform November 19, 2023 2:47 PM GMT
Now 4 an over. Just keep playing safe shots.
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 2:52 PM GMT
Exactly

I think India were ultra cautious
Report Whisperingdeath November 19, 2023 3:10 PM GMT
Brilliant 100 and match winning knock! Well deserved
Report Hayden November 19, 2023 3:17 PM GMT
Brilliant knock indeed from a player whose game is so easy on the eye and supported by a tactical masterclass from Labuschagne.

Just shows the benefits of having a beautifully balanced batting line up and a blend ready for any scenario required.
Report elisjohn November 19, 2023 3:17 PM GMT
just on 70 runs in over 20 overs  after being on 80-1 was pitiful to be honest , i blame a lot on that selfish big match choker kohli.
Report brentford November 19, 2023 3:23 PM GMT
was a pretty horrible surface in the later part of the first dig...sun goes down and a bit of jew has got a bit easier..

deliberately produced a slow poor strip and may well pay the price...would be justice in many ways..

all that said to this point Australia have played a blinder.
Report Hayden November 19, 2023 3:24 PM GMT
Player of the match obviously Head but i'd have Captain Cummins a clear 2nd
Report black shuck November 19, 2023 3:53 PM GMT
Never been so happy to see an aussie victory..well done
Report Try My Best November 19, 2023 3:53 PM GMT
cannot believe it. Could not see us winning this one but we have been incredible. A near faultless performance. Commiserations to India they have been brilliant. We found a way somehow. Well done boys. The best ever Aussie win in my lifetime.
Report brentford November 19, 2023 3:55 PM GMT
yep, that was a special effort..well played OZ...enjoy your win fellas..
Report Hayden November 19, 2023 3:59 PM GMT
6 wins from 13 world cups , the benchmark for everyone  Happy
Report Try My Best November 19, 2023 4:07 PM GMT
and beaten finalists on 3 occasions as well.
Report Try My Best November 19, 2023 4:11 PM GMT
apologies twice beaten finalist
Report SontaranStratagem November 19, 2023 4:12 PM GMT
Well done try my best fantastic all round today save for a wobble early in your chase

Fantastic record in world cups has to be said, they know how to win World Cups fair play

I did say last night I wouldnt be shocked if Indias only none win was this game… its sods law isnt it. Still a fantastic tournament and a fantastic recordmall round despite not winning it.
Report Try My Best November 19, 2023 4:20 PM GMT
SS - Very very worried when Smith was out. I thought it was going to be much too difficult for us at that point.
Report Try My Best November 19, 2023 4:25 PM GMT
Would everyone on here batted or fielded if they won the toss?
Report SontaranStratagem November 19, 2023 4:39 PM GMT
Batted first personally

Set a score and they chase under the lights
Report SontaranStratagem November 19, 2023 4:41 PM GMT
Australia bowled well on a slow pitch though

Gotta hand it to them
Report Try My Best November 19, 2023 4:45 PM GMT
Must admit I would have batted first as well.
Report brentford November 19, 2023 7:38 PM GMT
3 out of 4 chase winners in the tourny as referenced pre game...so would have chased but was brave...
Report brentford November 19, 2023 7:38 PM GMT
@ this venue
Report mafeking November 20, 2023 2:15 PM GMT
surely india would have better off playing on the flattest track imaginable ? they don't need to be messing about with the pitch

old habits came back to haunt them. like in the semi final against england last year they plodded along for far too long and just don't go hard enough when the pressure is on
Report Whisperingdeath November 20, 2023 8:46 PM GMT
I agree with that.even a flatter faster wicket.their bowlers have all the skill to exploit whatever is there and the batsmen are technically better.

They were far too cautious and should have continued the example set by Rohit. His dismissal was pivotal for me. I remember thinking I hope he does not get out here and he did.

Certainly glad Modhi’s propaganda plan failed but any glee at India’s shenanigans failing should be tempered because Australia and England under Giles Clark aided and abetted India attempt to assassinate Test Cricket.

Everyone should be on notice after this organisational World Cup shambles what is to come. Tickets only purchased with a “ Partner “ credit card company, flights only with a “ partner “ airline etc etc etc. cricket has been hijacked
Report Hayden November 28, 2023 5:27 PM GMT
Glen Maxwell's only done it again , hit 104 off 48 balls to win it for Australia today in the T20 international.

India matched at 1.03 and £83 million matched on the game.

Gotta love him  Happy
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