Cricket
England slightly favoured in the odds but the reality is there's not much between these 2 teams.
Steve Smith likely to come back in for Australia
Jimmy Anderson has to prove his fitness, who does he replace if he is fit? Not sure myself.
There will be pressure on Woakes who has been underused so far by Root for reasons unknown.
The tail will look very long if no Woakes and the batting has been shaky enough as it is.
Broad has bowled well with 14 wickets at 25. Would be a tough call to drop him but Jimmy is the better bowler.
As for the batting I think they'll keep the same line up but swap Denly into opening and push Roy down the order.
They like Roy and as unimpressive as he's been I think they'll want to give him a go in the middle order.
Absolutely no point in Roy opening again, he's just not a test match opener.
Denly showed he has a decent technique and a bit of mettle.
As for Australia, I would be bringing Starc in for Pattinson.
Who does Smith replace? Paine has been hopeless with the bat so far and it would make sense to give Wade the gloves and bring Smith back in his place but it's hard to see them changing captain mid series.
Khawaja or Wade likely to make way for Smith.
Too early for weather report but everyone knows it always rains in Manchester
Sep 8, 2019 -- 11:50AM, GRANTCKING wrote:
what happens if ur 9 wickets down and get hit on the head and have go off? u just lose?
Yeah
Need to kick up a stink about this light, its almost moon lit out there
| Runner | Recent Extreme | Current Odds |
| Australia | ||
| Draw | 75 | 3.75 |
Picked the right time to have its summer day didn't it
Sep 8, 2019 -- 11:56AM, johnnythebull wrote:
116 million on this
wow!
| Runner | Recent Extreme | Current Odds |
| Australia | 1.01 | 1.37 |
| Draw | 75 | 3.65 |
Sep 8, 2019 -- 11:59AM, Hamlin wrote:
Haha you can see the anti-England brigade are lurking silently in this thread, waiting for the wicket
SS has been converted, he's pro England now!
They've put so much into this series bless em
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:01PM, Libertine93 wrote:
16 overs is a lot of cricket. Australia are value at 1.4
1.44 and agree, people betting with their hearts not their heads
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:01PM, tomtimtum wrote:
when does this last hour start
when there's 15 overs left
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:02PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:
1.5 is outrageous.
If only our batsman could have done the sodding same earlier on
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:07PM, Libertine93 wrote:
He’s a number 10 Angela. It’s the lads at the top of the order you need to be questioning. 2 down in the first over didn’t do their teammates any favours
Very true. He has been brilliant Overton.
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:09PM, VardonVoo. wrote:
I think Aus went from 1.01 all the way to 1.5 there, or very close.
Yup, I got 1.48 
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:02PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:
1.5 is outrageous.
Nope.
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:11PM, tomtimtum wrote:
Ambiguous comments are always bets!
Peckers no.1 rule!
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:12PM, Libertine93 wrote:
The market has consistently been generous to England’s batting lineup this last innings. 9.2 for a 15 over final wicket stand smh
There are people speculating on there not being 15 overs of play left
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:12PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:
Completely incorrect Hamlin, but each to their own.
But if I quote it, it becomes fact.
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:13PM, Hamlin wrote:
Sep 8, 2019 -- 6:12PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:Completely incorrect Hamlin, but each to their own.But if I quote it, it becomes fact.
If it makes you happy.
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:14PM, tomtimtum wrote:
how fast was the betfair suspend monkey there
Yeah that was still during the review even allowing for a radio delay. Well out of order.
It was coming for some time, hopefully we make the changes now and improve as a result
Bayliss - unaccountable but well paid.
Thorpe - unaccountable but easy money.
Root - he'll take the positives...
Worst Aussie touring side in a long time, even the sides we beat from 2009-2015 were better than this lot
in however many overs the weather allows them. The draw graph has spiked above 50 and back below 6s twice!
Sep 8, 2019 -- 12:19PM, Injera wrote:
England can't bat. You need 700 runs per match at least.Bayliss - unaccountable but well paid.Thorpe - unaccountable but easy money.Root - he'll take the positives...
Our batting has been shocking for a long time but in this test Aus bowled us out.
Almost all of our 20 wickets were out to defensive shots.
There has definitely been more application since we were all out for 60 odd.
Your team has been out played and yet your blind to it. Therefore the failings will continue.
Too many of out batsmwn are not good enough at test match level but what else do we have - Bayliss is leaving to be replaced by?
Short term - Root should lose the captaincy and give a couple of young lads an opportunity at The Oval and the short tour to New Zealand
Long term - your guess is as good as mine as we seem to have tried most things - Academies in Oz etc
perhaps its as simple as waiting for a couple of decent players to suddenly announce themselves from nowhere which does occasionally happen
at the moment we have a dearth of batsmen - as for bowlers Anderson will be gone; Broad not getting younger & excepting Archer we will likely struggle for a time
Our selections were poor to start with. How often were we 30 odd for 3.
They suffered too tibf but we did not have batsmen with application
Questions for me over
Roy
Denly
Bstard
Butler
In
Foakes
Pope
Considerations
Crawley
Sibley
Apologies to Curran
Why did he not get a game?
Is this the worst aussie batting lineup to have defended the ashes in England? Minus Smith of course.
unbelievably bad, bone-headed and stubborn selection
totally inept, absolutely clueless Captain and white ball specialist retiring coach
white ball batsmen playing red ball cricket like it's a 50 over game
not playing your best wicket keeper who has proved he can bat at Test level
too many Counties
too many Counties giving Aussies red ball practice this year
County batsmen no longer playing against top quality test bowlers in County cricket
and Steve Smith who, despite a bizarre technique, will go down as one of the all time greats
All his runs came from thick outside edges
The bloke doesn't even have long hair
, i didnt pick on the girls today did i on tms
Whisperingdeath 16 Jul 19 11:56 Joined: 25 Dec 11 | Topic/replies: 24,742 | Blogger: Whisperingdeath's blog
YOU CAN GO BACK TO LICKING WINDOWS NOW, BYE!!!!!!!!
Post of the day!
It's over, move on. Nothing to see here.
Roll on The Ashes and the humiliation of Convict Nation
Oh dear WD. Why is it you always get it wrong. Think Tescos have the best loan rates at the moment. Must be more skint than Terry Ramsden.
Anyway enough of the losers on here who haven't a clue about the great game. It's a time to rejoice another Ashes urn in the hands of the greatest cricketing nation on earth. Our quicks have been quite outstanding and deserve a great deal of credit. Marnus has been a revelation and Smithy just does what Smithy does. Quite unbelievable that they picked Rabbit Roy from the get go. A mistake of huge proportions. The second coming that was Archer pmsl. Could not believe the hype this one trick pony was getting.
The scary thing is what a hiding you are going to get next time down under. Hope you stick with weasel Root who is quite clearly not a Captain.
ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FAIR
Sep 8, 2019 -- 1:28PM, detraveller wrote:
Couldn't post for a week. Lost on the game.Is this the worst aussie batting lineup to have defended the ashes in England? Minus Smith of course.
yes and by a long way!
However, Smith has been so good this series that he's effectively played the role of 3 or 4 batsmen!
Sep 8, 2019 -- 4:40PM, Try My Best wrote:
WhisperingdeathWhisperingdeath 16 Jul 19 11:56 Joined: 25 Dec 11 | Topic/replies: 24,742 | Blogger: Whisperingdeath's blogYOU CAN GO BACK TO LICKING WINDOWS NOW, BYE!!!!!!!!Post of the day!It's over, move on. Nothing to see here.Roll on The Ashes and the humiliation of Convict NationOh dear WD. Why is it you always get it wrong. Think Tescos have the best loan rates at the moment. Must be more skint than Terry Ramsden. Anyway enough of the losers on here who haven't a clue about the great game. It's a time to rejoice another Ashes urn in the hands of the greatest cricketing nation on earth. Our quicks have been quite outstanding and deserve a great deal of credit. Marnus has been a revelation and Smithy just does what Smithy does. Quite unbelievable that they picked Rabbit Roy from the get go. A mistake of huge proportions. The second coming that was Archer pmsl. Could not believe the hype this one trick pony was getting.The scary thing is what a hiding you are going to get next time down under. Hope you stick with weasel Root who is quite clearly not a Captain.ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FAIR
The Aussie quicks have been outstanding, completely agree with that.
Have really enjoyed watching Cummins and Hazlewood who are probably the best opening bowling combination I've seen.
If this current England team were to tour Australia it would be 5-0 or 4-0 if we could sneak a draw.
What fallacious and disingenuous tripe
Fùck off Root, you spinless weasel
Sep 8, 2019 -- 4:50PM, tomtimtum wrote:
Sep 8, 2019 -- 10:40PM, Try My Best wrote:WhisperingdeathWhisperingdeath 16 Jul 19 11:56 Joined: 25 Dec 11 | Topic/replies: 24,742 | Blogger: Whisperingdeath's blogYOU CAN GO BACK TO LICKING WINDOWS NOW, BYE!!!!!!!!Post of the day!It's over, move on. Nothing to see here.Roll on The Ashes and the humiliation of Convict NationOh dear WD. Why is it you always get it wrong. Think Tescos have the best loan rates at the moment. Must be more skint than Terry Ramsden. Anyway enough of the losers on here who haven't a clue about the great game. It's a time to rejoice another Ashes urn in the hands of the greatest cricketing nation on earth. Our quicks have been quite outstanding and deserve a great deal of credit. Marnus has been a revelation and Smithy just does what Smithy does. Quite unbelievable that they picked Rabbit Roy from the get go. A mistake of huge proportions. The second coming that was Archer pmsl. Could not believe the hype this one trick pony was getting.The scary thing is what a hiding you are going to get next time down under. Hope you stick with weasel Root who is quite clearly not a Captain.ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FAIRThe Aussie quicks have been outstanding, completely agree with that.Have really enjoyed watching Cummins and Hazlewood who are probably the best opening bowling combination I've seen.If this current England team were to tour Australia it would be 5-0 or 4-0 if we could sneak a draw.
The Injuns beat them though by playing percentage cricket with the bat
Pudjy & Kholi wore them down and that allowed the middle order to take advantage of tiring bowlers
Something needs to change before we tour Australia again because the last 2 have been absolutely pitiful and another 4-0 even 5-0 is on the cards if this stays the same
Roy, Denly, Bairstow, Buttler, Overton are just the names of the top of my head that would be gone for a start
I highly doubt that, he'll soon be on the decline rapidly and once you take him out that side Australia are awful batting wise
Cummins et al will be constantly defending sub 200 scores as the rest just do not score
Sep 8, 2019 -- 6:01PM, jucel69 wrote:
Sep 8, 2019 -- 10:50PM, tomtimtum wrote:Sep 8, 2019 -- 10:40PM, Try My Best wrote:WhisperingdeathWhisperingdeath 16 Jul 19 11:56 Joined: 25 Dec 11 | Topic/replies: 24,742 | Blogger: Whisperingdeath's blogYOU CAN GO BACK TO LICKING WINDOWS NOW, BYE!!!!!!!!Post of the day!It's over, move on. Nothing to see here.Roll on The Ashes and the humiliation of Convict NationOh dear WD. Why is it you always get it wrong. Think Tescos have the best loan rates at the moment. Must be more skint than Terry Ramsden. Anyway enough of the losers on here who haven't a clue about the great game. It's a time to rejoice another Ashes urn in the hands of the greatest cricketing nation on earth. Our quicks have been quite outstanding and deserve a great deal of credit. Marnus has been a revelation and Smithy just does what Smithy does. Quite unbelievable that they picked Rabbit Roy from the get go. A mistake of huge proportions. The second coming that was Archer pmsl. Could not believe the hype this one trick pony was getting.The scary thing is what a hiding you are going to get next time down under. Hope you stick with weasel Root who is quite clearly not a Captain.ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FAIRThe Aussie quicks have been outstanding, completely agree with that.Have really enjoyed watching Cummins and Hazlewood who are probably the best opening bowling combination I've seen.If this current England team were to tour Australia it would be 5-0 or 4-0 if we could sneak a draw.The Injuns beat them though by playing percentage cricket with the batPudjy & Kholi wore them down and that allowed the middle order to take advantage of tiring bowlers
That was an Australian team without Smith and Warner tho
Test cricket, it doesnt really matter any more does it?
The english and aussie players will pay lip service to the ashes but we all know their bread and butter is going to be white ball cricket.
Before this series 8 of the 9 last ashes series went to the home team, I believe.
Which suggests that in a long series of test matches the away team just get bored and cannot be bothered.
I should think the aussies at least made some preparation in selecting their squad. The bowling attack in particular but also replacing batsmen who were not getting the job done.
England clearly had no plan for the test series beyond expecting the aussie batting line up to fold in english conditions. In the face of a bowling attack led by two pensioners. The notion that Roy, Buttler and Bairstow are test match batsmen is laughable,
All in all its been quite enjoyable watching the aussies win.
England are probably back to where they were in the late 80s/early90s. ie In need of a major reboot. But the truth may well be that the standard of test cricket is so average around the world, does anyone really have the will to be @rsed?
Bairstow,Butler,Stokes and Roy are all attack minded batsman and having 4 in our line up is completely the wrong balance for the test side.
