Cricket
Aug 12, 2018 -- 3:10PM, johnnythebull wrote:
that's another massive difference between the sides..attitude,energy and fielding prowess
It’s exaggerated by the match state though: sides in winning positions are much more on their mettle in the field because of the situation. Once you’re down in the field, you stop caring so much.
Aug 12, 2018 -- 3:13PM, johnnythebull wrote:
superb delivery
absolutely
Aug 12, 2018 -- 3:15PM, johnnythebull wrote:
true fats but their attitude s being pretty defeatist and accepting of the fates are against us from the get-go
When first thing you do in a test is lose 2 wickets in a few overs, under leaden skies, then another in a micro session and end up all out for just over 100, you’d need a lot of mental strength not to play like the fates have been against you.
too many wafty type shots
adversity defines the man and they have been found wanting bigtime
a lot of sport and even life is how you cope mentally
if you mean the advantage a home side has over a visiting one
it's always been thus,in theory anyhow
but plenty of top visiting teams have won away from home
if they're good enough
Aug 12, 2018 -- 3:24PM, johnnythebull wrote:
they undoubtedly got the worst of the batting conditions but didn't show enough application nor resolve imhotoo many wafty type shotsadversity defines the man and they have been found wanting bigtimea lot of sport and even life is how you cope mentally
Oh completely agree with this.
Could see a few runs from this pair but conditions aren’t conducive and they pretty much can’t influence the match without putting on over 200.
Aug 12, 2018 -- 3:49PM, mafeking wrote:
must be comfortably the worst ranked number 1 side ever. sure they've been on the wrong end of conditions here but they've been absolutely pathetic in this match
Everyone is rubbish away from home at the moment though. Course India have been good in Sri Lanka, and the WI so rightly best side, although I agree, it’s hardly the dominance of the great WI or Aus sides of old, or even really on a par with the very good England side that won the Ashes away in 2010/11.
Aug 12, 2018 -- 3:50PM, mafeking wrote:
any half decent side would at least managed to get the close on day 2 100/5 and give themselves a chance of getting over 200 and staying in the game
Do you really think England’s batting would have lasted 50 overs in those conditions against our attack?
English is the world's richest language but i'm struggling to find sufficiently scathing adjectives to 'describe' this lamentable 'performance'
good to have the youthful exuberance allied to undoubted talent
and seem to have the temperament that won't be too easily fazed
Aug 12, 2018 -- 3:53PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:
Pakistan have played 6 tests over here in last 2 years and won 3 of them!
Correction:
The 4 match series was 1-1 & 2 draws
The 2 match series was 1-1
Still bloody good compared to everyone else.
Aug 12, 2018 -- 3:52PM, johnnythebull wrote:
they'd have had to have played way better than they have to be rated patheticEnglish is the world's richest language but i'm struggling to find sufficiently scathing adjectives to 'describe' this lamentable 'performance'
English can't be the richest language Johnny boy. Russian and Persian may disagree.
Aug 12, 2018 -- 3:51PM, Fatslogger wrote:
Aug 12, 2018 -- 3:49PM, mafeking wrote:must be comfortably the worst ranked number 1 side ever. sure they've been on the wrong end of conditions here but they've been absolutely pathetic in this matchEveryone is rubbish away from home at the moment though. Course India have been good in Sri Lanka, and the WI so rightly best side, although I agree, it’s hardly the dominance of the great WI or Aus sides of old, or even really on a par with the very good England side that won the Ashes away in 2010/11.
Sadly I wasn't following cricket then on that Ashes 2010/11 tour 
I really ought to have gone green in the low 5s earlier but it looked to me like they’d come off, which would have seen the draw drop to the 4s somewhere. Given that as always, I felt the draw far more unlikely than the market, it’s amazing that I’ve lost a packet on a result again. I need to have stern words with myself. Today’s weather play felt to be a good one...
Aug 12, 2018 -- 3:56PM, mafeking wrote:
FS, sure we'd have lost a few early ones but more chance our middle order might have a made a better fist of it. could hardly have done worse
Obviously hard to know but we got bowled out for nothing in NZ with the ball doing a lot less than it did here.
Aug 12, 2018 -- 4:00PM, detraveller wrote:
I will post my detailed analysis of the game at night.
not sure i can wait that long
Aug 12, 2018 -- 4:03PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:
Time to focus on white ball, at least you know your fate on the day
Grant Logic.
Aug 12, 2018 -- 4:08PM, detraveller wrote:
DT's dog walking hypothesizing has hit the bullseye again #GunTrader
If England weren't always happy to take their foot of the gas this would be 5-0 easily
Umesh back for Kuldeep is obvious. I would bring in Pant for Karthik. Don't really know what other options they have with the batting, which, is where the problem is.
Aug 12, 2018 -- 4:53PM, johnnythebull wrote:
i think it's the nature of the beast as a gambler..we're never satisfied..tweaking winning positions to eke out a bit more and end up shooting ourselves in the foot
That's why you set yourself rules. E.g. if your Cash-Out all-green is "x" then don't risk more than, say, 30% on trying to tweak "x".
India 2/10(Shami bowled q well, Ash batted well)
Aug 12, 2018 -- 4:53PM, johnnythebull wrote:
i think it's the nature of the beast as a gambler..we're never satisfied..tweaking winning positions to eke out a bit more and end up shooting ourselves in the foot
So flipping true
Aug 12, 2018 -- 4:43PM, jucel69 wrote:
10k after day 1 , 7k after day 2 , 5k after day 3 and complete decimation today.
Oh jucel! Bet you did what I did and tried to trade the rain that never quite did enough to take them off. Amazing thing is that my break even after chasing draw to small red on the first wicket thinking they were off any moment and hard on the second wicket and rumours (which I felt were overblown) of a resumption, I had my break even at 6 and actually got rid of some there and lots down to the low 5s. I could have taken a plausible green but again believed too much in the rain / the umps not being Big Sue and then, which was shocking, I chased up again having got my red down to £2.3k. So a day I went into with £4K result green and a belief that I might have to sit on some painful looking odds for my day 5 pay off, instead lost me near £5k on England winning, which I knew was the outcome from the moment the 5th wicket fell on day 2. Fck it! At least I won a bit on rain last night and football today and it keeps the super PC at bay for a bit longer but wow, what a shower.
Aug 12, 2018 -- 6:28PM, Eric.Cartman wrote:
Rashid had a good game...0 balls bowled..0 balls faced..0 cathches taken...good to see him being more consistent
Odd couple of games for him but didn’t even get to be specialist dismisser of Ishant can’t pick the googly to save his life Sharma this time. Still, hardly his fault but I think the rationale that led England’s selectors to prefer Moeen at home still applies, albeit that Woakes at 7 was hardly a bad choice. The guy is far too good a batsman for 8 but then we’ve batted Moeen there too, in the not too distant past.
Aug 12, 2018 -- 5:56PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:
Aug 12, 2018 -- 4:53PM, johnnythebull wrote:i think it's the nature of the beast as a gambler..we're never satisfied..tweaking winning positions to eke out a bit more and end up shooting ourselves in the footSo flipping true
I know not to trade day 5s much, or an obvious final day, day 3 or 4 (I don’t always pay attention to what I know but that’s another story) but I’m far less sure how many of my bets today were bad. Definitely the final few chasing the draw up on 3rd wicket were horrible beyond belief but think trying to trade the rain was fair enough. Enough rain actually fell for that to have been a big winner, the umps just played on.
Guess a few of us got stung by that even though it was obvious England would ultimately win (although, we thought, not until day five!).
I made one great move that put me in clover but also made one or two bad moves, most notably on price.
No regrets as I ended up 3.3k up, could have been far more if todays radar & forecast come true.
Ended up losing 8/900 green on England today but well worth it imo.
Trading is all about value and how much you can get out of it.
I'm happy and back in the game.
The Indian's batting has been poor but it can't be easy when the ball is hooping both ways over after over.
They won't need to now & there's no way on god's earth that Broad/Anderson will want to miss Trent Bridge.
I can't see myself opposing England for the rest of the series.
It's going to be hard to make any decent cash on the remaining games, unless there is rain again.
England will be sub 2s and loads of market love + Kholi's injury
Market is just opening, be interesting to see the prices
England were 80-7 odd last match and could easily have lost if the sun came out. If India had won this toss the game may have been different.
I am not saying the Indian batting has not been as effective as an Italian Infantry Batallion but they could just as easily win the next match. Again a favourable toss or lucky on the weather and the situation could easily reverse
We all knew the team winning the toss here would be the likely winners. It was not rocket science and still most of us managed to lose large greens wtf!
Note to self.......keep it simple, take what winnings the match offers and don't go looking for what isn't there and finally if the the King has no clothes on don't be afraid to call it. Lessons in the bleed in' obvious!
I learnt the lesson of not laying England the hard way. I would rather skip the game than try making money laying England against a subcontinent side. Because if you don't bet, you can't lose.
Other thing is that you can happily wait for England to be 50/3 and still lay at odds on with market love likely to persist.
