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Starts on Saturday for some reason. And I think we can safely assume the pitch won't be turning from the first session and a 3 day match. Possible t'storm.

Bangalore has a high number of draws, even when it doesn't rain. I expect a match that goes 5 days, and whoever wins the toss is unlikely to lose. Not withstanding England managed this feat more than once.

Which makes the draw at mid 4s rather big IMO.
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Report the whizz kids March 7, 2017 2:34 AM GMT
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Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 3:57 AM GMT

Mar 6, 2017 -- 7:33PM, the whizz kids wrote:


Jucel, I feel for you mate. Take a break as it can eat you inside. I set my limit to around 2k red on tests (only trade tests) and for some crazy pissed up reason I went and done 5k on a one day Eng match followed by 2k in the casino that night. **** me up ever since.I've now taken a good break for a few weeks and things are feeling good with a fresh outlook on trading.Your a top Cricet trader don't let it beat you.


cheers Whizz, I'm taking it surprisingly well!
I'm taking heart from the fact I've made almost 10k this year, even after this loss.
Still painful though as I've spent that already on new stuff for the houseCrazy

Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 3:57 AM GMT

Mar 6, 2017 -- 7:33PM, the whizz kids wrote:


Jucel, I feel for you mate. Take a break as it can eat you inside. I set my limit to around 2k red on tests (only trade tests) and for some crazy pissed up reason I went and done 5k on a one day Eng match followed by 2k in the casino that night. **** me up ever since.I've now taken a good break for a few weeks and things are feeling good with a fresh outlook on trading.Your a top Cricet trader don't let it beat you.


Cry

Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 4:12 AM GMT
Lb's are going to be difficult because the ball is turning so much
Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2017 4:14 AM GMT
woah he was so far back despite spinning ball!

This game is far from over. A wicket before the new ball would have brought Aussie back into it. I wonder if India will go after the hard ball? Rahane has form in getting himself out this Indian summer. He would bebetter served by carrying on as he is although being positive against the hard ball
Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2017 4:18 AM GMT
This is such great cricket. Every ball is so important. How can people prefer T20?
Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2017 4:26 AM GMT
Boom, that's what I'm talking bout!
Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 4:30 AM GMT

Mar 6, 2017 -- 9:57PM, jucel69 wrote:


Mar  7, 2017 --  1:33AM, the whizz kids wrote:Jucel, I feel for you mate. Take a break as it can eat you inside. I set my limit to around 2k red on tests (only trade tests) and for some crazy pissed up reason I went and done 5k on a one day Eng match followed by 2k in the casino that night. **** me up ever since.I've now taken a good break for a few weeks and things are feeling good with a fresh outlook on trading.Your a top Cricet trader don't let it beat you.cheers Whizz, I'm taking it surprisingly well! I'm taking heart from the fact I've made almost 10k this year, even after this loss.Still painful though as I've spent that already on new stuff for the house


My approach to big losses is To remind myself that I mostly win and that I'll win again soon enough but it still stings.

Draw took a surprising hike up start of play despite not many runs and no wicket. Not that I think the draw is much in the equation but the ball spinning shouldn't be a surprise.

Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2017 4:31 AM GMT
It would appear it is not just me but cricinfo are on it too!

Bathroom: "Little known fact, but Hegel was a useful cricketer. Part of a powerful German existential line-up of the 19th century..."

Laugh
Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 4:33 AM GMT
David Hume could out consume William Heinrich Hegel.
Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2017 4:35 AM GMT
More philosophical gems...

Rishav: "Thank god there was only 1 lbw dismissal in India innings or they wouldnt have left any review for Pujara"


Laugh
Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2017 4:36 AM GMT
Gary MacLennan: "I can't believe this game. It has everything. Two teams locked in a life and death struggle as Hegel would have put it. Who will emerge the victor? India slightly ahead I think. Loving the coverage, Sidharth."
Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2017 4:37 AM GMT
Tom: "Mention of Hegel reminded me that Samuel Beckett is the only Nobel Prize winner to play first class cricket."
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 4:41 AM GMT
Those 3 drops of Pudjie have killed the Aussies here
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 4:47 AM GMT
That was a left handed "Harmy" ballLaugh
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 4:49 AM GMT
Amazing how that was pitching in line!
Report pxb March 7, 2017 4:51 AM GMT
Got my last draw lay a couple of seconds before that wicket. Some days you can't miss.
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 4:51 AM GMT
what a shot first ballCrazy
Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 4:55 AM GMT

Mar 6, 2017 -- 10:51PM, pxb wrote:


Got my last draw lay a couple of seconds before that wicket. Some days you can't miss.


I just hit a draw lay at 5.1 before that wicket to go tiny green Aus, £800 green India. Nice timing. If India could just fail to get 300 too, that would suit nicely. Anyway, got some more draw at 17 hoping to lay off but that was a silly, poor value bet with so little prospect of India batting enough time.

Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 4:55 AM GMT
dropping like flies
Report tyco161 March 7, 2017 4:56 AM GMT
that was lucky pxb... draw from 5 to 40 in 2 overs.
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 4:57 AM GMT
With Starc swinging it at pace, the last few could fall in 10/15 mins
Report appformat March 7, 2017 4:57 AM GMT
brutal last 6 balls for India backers here... game pretty much gone now imo
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 4:58 AM GMT

Mar 6, 2017 -- 10:57PM, appformat wrote:


brutal last 6 balls for India backers here... game pretty much gone now imo


I don't fancy Aus to chase 175 tbf

Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 4:58 AM GMT

Mar 6, 2017 -- 10:57PM, appformat wrote:


brutal last 6 balls for India backers here... game pretty much gone now imo


Don't agree, could very easily defend 160, let alone more.

Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2017 4:59 AM GMT
Wow,

Thats what happens when you make breakfast!

What a game and a game show from Aussie!

I was going to say if they could protect Nair from the new ball he would have dealt with Lyon by sweeping. India need to strecth this lead to 200, which, I think may be enough but the only problem is that is gives Aussie a chance and the bowling or batting side couls take the initiative and momentum in the second innings. A 40 run cameo from Warner might give the others the confidence to win the match.

I love this game Stan although I am whole match bet India!

In hindsight I should have cleared the red because of the new ball and bought back in. Too obvious now!
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 5:00 AM GMT
8 down!
Report pxb March 7, 2017 5:00 AM GMT
Winviz says over today.
Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 5:01 AM GMT
My run line lays are very much harder back alive.
Report appformat March 7, 2017 5:02 AM GMT
what makes you think Aus will struggle to chase 160?
Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 5:02 AM GMT
Ignore the harder. I appreciate that can be difficult.
Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2017 5:02 AM GMT
The morning session has been crucial to take wickets. Aus could get a start this after noon and that might give them confidence. I dont think Aussie are out of this at all.
Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 5:02 AM GMT

Mar 6, 2017 -- 11:02PM, appformat wrote:


what makes you think Aus will struggle to chase 160?


That this pitch is a collapse waiting to happen.

Report pxb March 7, 2017 5:06 AM GMT
If India can get to Aus middle order in say 20 overs it will be close, and India will probably edge it. But Aus rightly favs IMO.
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 5:07 AM GMT

Mar 6, 2017 -- 11:06PM, pxb wrote:


If India can get to Aus middle order in say 20 overs it will be close, and India will probably edge it. But Aus rightly favs IMO.


It will all depend on luck as there are a lot of unplayable balls

Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 5:08 AM GMT
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Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 5:10 AM GMT

Mar 6, 2017 -- 11:07PM, jucel69 wrote:


Mar  7, 2017 --  5:06AM, pxb wrote:If India can get to Aus middle order in say 20 overs it will be close, and India will probably edge it. But Aus rightly favs IMO.It will all depend on luck as there are a lot of unplayable balls


Agree with you both but it's not at all easy to score on. I think the market is for once not loving India quite as much as it should. The bowling side needs to pitch the ball up a bit so that extravagant movement is less likely to miss the edge or the stumps.

Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 5:12 AM GMT
Twenty three runs and four wickets in three overs there.
Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2017 5:12 AM GMT
good luck all. I am off
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 6:25 AM GMT
Will Warner go for gold against the new ball? I think he should tbf, he plays better that way.
Report tyco161 March 7, 2017 6:44 AM GMT
Troll in the park so far. Not too many runs to play with for India so they are also under pressure.
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 6:44 AM GMT
what a ball!!
Report pxb March 7, 2017 6:45 AM GMT
India need a bit of luck to get that first wicket.
Report ayt March 7, 2017 6:53 AM GMT
what was aussie price in morning when they were 235/4??anyone?
Report ayt March 7, 2017 6:53 AM GMT
when indians were 235/4?
Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 6:54 AM GMT

Mar 7, 2017 -- 12:53AM, ayt wrote:


what was aussie price in morning when they were 235/4??anyone?


Got over 4, certainly.

Report ayt March 7, 2017 6:55 AM GMT
Surprised
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 6:57 AM GMT
Gonna win in byes!!
Report ayt March 7, 2017 6:59 AM GMT
maximum ind can take 5 or 6 wickets here
Report ayt March 7, 2017 6:59 AM GMT
and here is the 1st one
Report ayt March 7, 2017 7:15 AM GMT
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Report ayt March 7, 2017 7:17 AM GMT
lyon didnt took a wicket in 2nd inngs,,why kohli keep bowling with ashwin,,jadeja is more than dangerous here
Report ayt March 7, 2017 7:22 AM GMT
Laugh why was he bowling over the wicket earlier
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 7:25 AM GMT
A thai would be niceLaugh
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 7:26 AM GMT

Mar 7, 2017 -- 1:25AM, jucel69 wrote:


A thai would be nice


Haven't had one for a long time!

Report pxb March 7, 2017 7:33 AM GMT
Kohli dropped the match there.
Report pxb March 7, 2017 7:38 AM GMT
Haven't had one for a long time!

You haven't had a thai in a long time. Mmmm!
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 7:43 AM GMT

Mar 7, 2017 -- 1:38AM, pxb wrote:


Haven't had one for a long time!You haven't had a thai in a long time. Mmmm!


Test cricketWink

Report pxb March 7, 2017 7:50 AM GMT
Get Smith soon and I like India's chances.
Report ayt March 7, 2017 7:57 AM GMT
juicel who wins from here?
Report ayt March 7, 2017 7:57 AM GMT
no if,s and but,s only Final call?
Report tyco161 March 7, 2017 7:57 AM GMT
you could start laying the Thai soon Jucel... :) you know doing the reverse of backing the Thai to protect profits... :P
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 7:58 AM GMT

Mar 7, 2017 -- 1:57AM, ayt wrote:


juicel who wins from here?


India, but I've been saying that all along and lost a load of cash being impatient!

Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 7:58 AM GMT
I'm going out to drown my sorrows, praying for a THAI!!Laugh
Report ghoststory. March 7, 2017 8:00 AM GMT
Two really bad Lb decisions by the Umps.
Warner was hit outside the line.... Marsh was a dead set howler.
Any doubt don't put your finger up.... don't mess with what is looking
like a great finish
Report jucel69 March 7, 2017 8:02 AM GMT
They will probably play the extra 1/2 hour so should be finished today
Report tyco161 March 7, 2017 8:09 AM GMT
India win
Report tyco161 March 7, 2017 8:24 AM GMT
Under 100 to go with 6 wickets in hand will start to make it interesting. tense this one..
Report tyco161 March 7, 2017 8:30 AM GMT
94-4 and they need 94 to win. Very nicely balanced.
Report ayt March 7, 2017 8:33 AM GMT
Huge money coming in for Australia now
Report ayt March 7, 2017 9:09 AM GMT
as well as came in ,they collapsedLaugh
Report tomtimtum March 7, 2017 9:10 AM GMT
bad call AYT Cry
Report ayt March 7, 2017 9:10 AM GMT
LaughLaugh oh my friend tom is here
Report tomtimtum March 7, 2017 9:11 AM GMT
AYT I am always here for you Love
Report tomtimtum March 7, 2017 9:11 AM GMT
when you need cricket advice from a TRUE PRO, you know where to come Grin
Report ayt March 7, 2017 9:12 AM GMT
LaughLaughLaugh
Report ayt March 7, 2017 9:14 AM GMT
i bow down to u Sir Tom
Report tomtimtum March 7, 2017 9:15 AM GMT
CoolCoolCool
Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 10:47 AM GMT
Screwed my position again earlier by backing Aus on 3rd wicket to go green looking to lay off later then also thought the Jadeja lbw review would be out so backed India hard at 1.39 then it was ump's call although to be fair, that turned out okay in the end. Basically a flat test for me with one run line win and a small match win balancing out two run line losses. Given where I was on day 1, I'll take that very happily indeed though, even if I could have actually had a big win if I'd not cracked and got shot of over £10k of my draw at 20, 15 and 10 Indian second innings after 4th wicket.
Report pxb March 7, 2017 11:11 AM GMT
I think we can expect result wickets for the last 2 Tests.
Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 11:28 AM GMT

Mar 7, 2017 -- 5:11AM, pxb wrote:


I think we can expect result wickets for the last 2 Tests.


Think it was a real surprise this game went as long as it did after India's first innings implosion. A few things could have gone differently and we'd have seen a result on day 3. Interesting series and strong comeback from India anyway.

Report hologon March 7, 2017 3:09 PM GMT
Great match to watch
Report Foinavon March 7, 2017 3:22 PM GMT
A difficult match to call. Well done to those who backed India yesterday.
Report Whisperingdeath March 7, 2017 5:21 PM GMT
I think India were very lucky to win this match. The partnership between my men Rahane and Pujara changed the course of the match and the series. Let's be clear here Aussie could and maybe should have won this game. I think they dropped both of those batsmen and it has cost them the match!

Having said that, nice to return to winning ways! My premise was to back India at home when batting first. I though even money was a good price for that. 3's and 4's was on offer but too much of a risk for me to go in excess of match bet after a few losses!

I think India will now power on from here. They have been as poor as Australia have been good. I think despite what happened in the firsat two matches they have worked out how to play both Aussie spinners and as long as the ball is not new will be able to deal with Starc and Hazlewood. The picking off of singles and rotating the strike by Pujara and Rahane was a sign that something had been said and worked out for me as was Rahane's off stump guard against the off spinner.

I don't think we can expect Aus to keep up this impressive performance so I shall be backing India at anything around evens and if they lose the toss reconsider and bet according to the match situation.

Sorry if a few people made a right horlicks here. I think it is cyclical and also can be a good thing. Betfair is not a bank account and a guarantee although it did seem like it for a while. Need to go back to protecting the bank!
Report pxb March 7, 2017 9:01 PM GMT
I think the lesson here is how good India's batting was on a difficult pitch, and how awful their tail is.
Report johnnythebull March 7, 2017 10:30 PM GMT
in the light of how well they bowled with the new ball to storm back into the match
their batting was pathetic yet again evoking memories of SL
they should really have been able to get those runs
just speaking as an observer
didn't get financially involved
enjoyable last day and a half that i saw
Report Fatslogger March 7, 2017 10:59 PM GMT

Mar 7, 2017 -- 4:30PM, johnnythebull wrote:


in the light of how well they bowled with the new ball to storm back into the matchtheir batting was pathetic yet again evoking memories of SLthey should really have been able to get those runsjust speaking as an observerdidn't get financially involvedenjoyable last day and a half that i saw


As I've said, didn't see all that much of it but batting against Ashwin and Jadeja on that track chasing a small total wasn't anything like easy. The Aussies have outperformed expectations in three of four innings and I'm not sure they even did especially terribly today. There just weren't runs to be had and blocking out wasn't going to keep you alive either.

Report johnnythebull March 8, 2017 1:19 PM GMT
all about opinions..Fats..o/wise the exchange couldn't work
but even given what you said vis-a-vis the bowling and conditions
they should have made a much better fist of things
once Warner and Smith went it was an uphill struggle
what happened to the fabled Aussie 'grit'
Report Fatslogger March 8, 2017 1:25 PM GMT
I don't disagree if you're saying that the Aussie batting is dodgy. My point was more that they've actually been a lot less dodgy than expected in the series with Renshaw and Smith excelllent and that collapsing on that surface was no surprise.
Report mafeking March 8, 2017 3:16 PM GMT
don't think you can blame them for getting rolled in the last innings - the ball that got smith almost hit his foot. several other wickets on day 4 were due to the ball virtually shooting along the deck
Report Injera March 8, 2017 3:24 PM GMT
The pitches are a disgrace. They give beaches a bad name...

Ashwin gets so many cheap wickets - all a bit farcical imo. I'm not book talking as I didn't have a bet but how can the ball shoot along the ground at first class level?

It was Day 4, but Lyon took 8 on Day 1!!! So the pitch was clearly falling apart then.

Prepare a club pitch at Premier League level here, even in Div 2 and you can soon get chucked out of the league.
Report Fatslogger March 8, 2017 5:20 PM GMT
Said before that it's a little surprising that the game got well into day four as after the first innings it felt like a day three finish job. I don't think it was unplayable on day 1. And Lyon bowled well, with the Indians not playing him brilliantly but certainly even then it looked a bit of an uneven contest between bat and ball. There's some talk that the pitch then played better, at least on day 2 and possibly day 3 but didn't see enough of it to say. Certainly by day 4 it was a dog of a track.
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2017 5:48 PM GMT
They said the pitch was a little damp on day 1 hence Lyon got a bit of lift and turn and it settled down days 2 and 3. Further to that India gave away 4 top order wickets which were two stumpings, a no shot from Kohli and then Rahul had a slash at the end.

The pitch was not great but not a minefield. Still a little disappointing from India. They have the better spinners, a bad pitch levels things out as O'Keefe and Lyon have shown. Aus playing Mitchell Marsh is a mistake in India.

India were very close to losing the game imho as I have said before.

I also think India have missed a trick by playing Partiv Patel ( well though he played ) in the England series and Bangla and not giving Risabh Pant a go for the hell of it. I am not convinced by Saha. I thought he was a better batsman and wicketkeeper. I know he took a couple of good catches but the jury is still out on him for me. Pant could have torn into any attack in India and I would just love to have a look at him up close and see him at this level.

Aussie only gave it away by not holding onto catches. If they were chasing 50 runs less then India would have been under an awful lot of pressure and a counter attack may have worked.
Report mafeking March 8, 2017 6:54 PM GMT
ashwin and jadeja's test records make a mockery of proper test careers. have taken 85% and 83% respectively of their wickets in asia

how many tests have india played away compared to home in the last couple of years ? hardly any. not hard to be top of the rankings if you hardly ever play away
Report Whisperingdeath March 8, 2017 7:26 PM GMT
yes good point but I think India have just rediscovered Test Cricket. There is a billion of them. Test Cricketers will once again be revered as Gods even more than IPL players.

India will now start to play some away series. I think they will be able to compete against most countries ironically England will be their biggest test. I think they have a number of batsmen showing maturity with age but they just do not have a penetrating attack in foreign climes. I think the likes of Bhuvi and Yadav may be effective abroad and also Ishant ( dont laugh ) and Sami is a good bowler too at times. the latter three all lack consistency and all 4 are not the best of the best so India will always have problems but they will be competitive I think.

I do think Ashwin and Jajeda are good quality International cricketers who will get better by playing abroad but they will not be world beaters abroad and you need to take 20 wickets to win Test matches.
Report Fatslogger March 8, 2017 10:13 PM GMT
Ashwin's batting makes him a very decent cricketer indeed, even away from home, although his bowling record aside from WI is a bit indifferent, certainly by comparison to his home record. Jadeja would actually be quite a useful pick away on a similar basis but he's obviously behind Ashwin so doesn't get a look in.
Report pxb March 8, 2017 10:48 PM GMT
Cricinfo were joking that Jadega must have killed Kohli's dog.
Report dodgybettor March 9, 2017 1:02 PM GMT

Mar 8, 2017 -- 12:54PM, mafeking wrote:


ashwin and jadeja's test records make a mockery of proper test careers. have taken 85% and 83% respectively of their wickets in asiahow many tests have india played away compared to home in the last couple of years ? hardly any. not hard to be top of the rankings if you hardly ever play away


How many test wickets did Lillee take in Asia? 6 in 4 tests. How many wickets did Brett Lee take in Asia? 15 in 9 tests. Proper test careers for you? Ashwin's 41 in 13 tests outside Asia is as bad/good as Anderson's 59 in 20 tests in Asia.

Report mafeking March 9, 2017 3:39 PM GMT
obviously ashwin especially is a very fine bowler in favourable conditions it's just that his figures are being distorted by playing so many matches at home - just 4 tests in the west indies since early 2015 and these days even the caribbean is pretty spin friendly

i'd say anil kumble was a better bowler but the numbers don't suggest that currently
Report JustWinBaby March 10, 2017 11:44 AM GMT
Starc out for the rest of the series

Goodnight Australia
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