Australia v South Africa - 1st Test at the WACA

after a great fightback why would you not give yourself the best opportunity to win the test? never ceases to amaze me just how negative an approach SA can have.

bridey

batting looks pretty easy at the moment. Aus could be 200-2 before the end of play then who would be favourites to win the match?

Aus were 158/0 off 35 overs in the first dig with Steyn!

New ball in 3 overs.

Nov 6, 2016 -- 4:24AM, bridey. wrote:

after a great fightback why would you not give yourself the best opportunity to win the test? never ceases to amaze me just how negative an approach SA can have.

You've got this utterly wrong. With three bowlers SA clearly tactically correct to bat well past lunch. Aus probably won't shut up shop anyway and it's only once the lead gets past 500 with under 5 sessions left that you'd think Aus might not win just by batting through normally. Grind them down. Benefits later in the series too. I like an aggressive declaration but not with this much time left and definitely not with three bowlers, one a debutant.

I don't think Aus can win now!  all this toiling in the field will have a physical & psychological effect on them!....Marshy is an opener and has been fielding close up squatting up and down, I would be on unders with him if I was into side markets.

Warney has changed his tune! Making money from his various ramps

45 to an hour I guess!

I would love to see the draw drop to 4

Still need Aus to go off the scale. Can't believe they are still so short!

Got a reflex draw back in at 5.8, lay at 5.4. Draw trading as low as it has all game now, pretty much. Not sure how much the market has priced in that SA will just keep batting if not all out. Could go under 4s if still going a few overs after lunch? I'm going to sleep now hoping for an all green screen and Aus 5 down when I wake up.

still need to take 10 wickets, a few overs before lunch would have been a nightmare for oz to face but if you are worried about warner teeing off and being on the backfoot with a scenario like u say then by all means keep batting and batting. they could have put the foot down an hour ago. SA team have choked on a few occasions and think that stems from a mindset of this type of approach of not losing first and foremost. if oz get out of this with a draw, it will feel like a win now. great fightback from SA all the same, shame not to convert it.

Nov 6, 2016 -- 4:38AM, bridey. wrote:

still need to take 10 wickets, a few overs before lunch would have been a nightmare for oz to face but if you are worried about warner teeing off and being on the backfoot with a scenario like u say then by all means keep batting and batting. they could have put the foot down an hour ago. SA team have choked on a few occasions and think that stems from a mindset of this type of approach of not losing first and foremost. if oz get out of this with a draw, it will feel like a win now. great fightback from SA all the same, shame not to convert it.

Foot down an hour ago? They were 6 down man! If you get bowled out there and set under 3 rpo you've got it badly wrong. .

and lets not forget, Philander has been batting for 135+ deliveries. Not the freshest of the 3 bowlers and he's vital to SA winningchances.

Good morning

rrr about 3.75
50/0 off 10 and Aus will be 5s

Having a back to lay on Aus - try to get from 12s to 5/6s

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-south-africa-2012/engine/match/573009.html

so far a similar script...

With a quick Aus start, does draw go out or SA?

Nov 6, 2016 -- 5:25AM, detraveller wrote:

With a quick Aus start, does draw go out or SA?

sa

Wind has got gusty.

Remember Sa were 40/2 and still got over 500. Anything is possible

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if one of the seamers goes the journey SA have nowhere to turn

at least they have an excuse.

Aus definitely missing Imran Tahir

Nov 6, 2016 -- 6:02AM, detraveller wrote:

Aus definitely missing Imran Tahir

They absolutely smashed him to pieces

Aus will look to smack the spinners around.

so far keeping up with the run rate. I want a mega SA panic in the market.

Nov 6, 2016 -- 6:09AM, pxb wrote:

Aus will look to smack the spinners around.

got to as that will put immense pressure on faf

They absolutely smashed him to pieces

I was surprised tahir wasn't in the squad, but that's probably the reason.

ffs i laid SA again when i actually wanted to back them. Need to go back to sleep. See ya!

the cracks are not in line with the stumps ffs

well done there.

run out

yeah the declaration took too long!

Aus 5 down at stumps?

Sensational by Bavuma

Nov 6, 2016 -- 6:25AM, detraveller wrote:

Aus 5 down at stumps?

Aus survive till stumps?

This will probably be his last over of the spell too

goodnight John Boy

what a mad 10 minutes!

ffs checking lbw on that!

Nov 6, 2016 -- 6:31AM, jucel69 wrote:

what a mad 10 minutes!

yeha cost me a lot of my green.

killed me, had a lay in at 6s on Aus that would have cleared most of my losses for the game!

Just need a 200 p'ship now

Ive lost 2-3rds of my potential green. As always, i just keep looking at the match when i should be securing my profits. Greed.

Nov 6, 2016 -- 6:39AM, detraveller wrote:

Ive lost 2-3rds of my potential green. As always, i just keep looking at the match when i should be securing my profits. Greed.

We're eternal optimists DT!

Aus have suddenly started to make any spinner look like a wizard

I wanted SA to hit 1.5 then wanted them to hit 1.6 and then wanted it to carry on like that. Now i sit with my dicke in my hand :D

But Aus should still be able to put a couple good aptnerships together.

Never seen Aus play spin like this in Australia

With the run rate slowing Aus cant win now so no need for me to green up. Couldnt of gone better this test after being completely in the sh1t after the first innings.

Nov 6, 2016 -- 6:59AM, DAN1974 wrote:

With the run rate slowing Aus cant win now so no need for me to green up. Couldnt of gone better this test after being completely in the sh1t after the first innings.

not if cook keeps bowling!

Call the final result juice..

Nov 6, 2016 -- 8:19AM, ayt wrote:

Call the final result juice..

draw

Nov 6, 2016 -- 8:03AM, jucel69 wrote:

Nov  6, 2016 --  6:59AM, DAN1974 wrote:With the run rate slowing Aus cant win now so no need for me to green up. Couldnt of gone better this test after being completely in the sh1t after the first innings.not if cook keeps bowling!

i soon as i posted that Cook cam on and the RR increased, lol. they still need 4 an over though and are going at 3.3.

Winviz has the draw at 3.5% ???????

Nov 6, 2016 -- 8:49AM, pxb wrote:

Winviz has the draw at 3.5% ???????

I'll take 33s on the draw

This is showing up the Aus bowlers

GSM

aussie chokers..so overrated..softened up and owned by the Lankans now the Saffers bitches as well

RabaDabbaaaaa

Yasir are you on AUS??

just had to lay SA at the prices
but should really get it done from here

On Nothing

Market suspended in Bpl now

Rabada is in beast mode. The aussies never bowled anything like this, which must be a worry as their batting is flakier than Philip Marlow's skin

NO BPL............TODAY

postponed till tuesday pecker!

Yes Tom, was telling Ayt......

any way the flat track bullies can bat all day and save this?
just can't see it personally with the top 4 gone

Nov 6, 2016 -- 1:42PM, johnnythebull wrote:

any way the flat track bullies can bat all day and save this?just can't see it personally with the top 4 gone

I don't think so. I got rid of almost all my final draw green laying it at 7.6 then 6.8, although that was mainly looking for buys back higher I think that's good value, even with only three SA specialist bowlers and a flat track. It's a law of large numbers thing in this situation, as much as anything: unless the batsmen are exceptional ones you'd expect enough mistakes or really good balls to see six wickets, especially as none of the remaining batsmen are really very good ones.

no chance. this is a shocking australian side. only 2 decent batsmen one of whom generally is found out if there's any movement be it off the seam or spin and starc with the ball humiliated by the worst sri lankan side in decades and now being demolished by a saffer side which as england showed is no great shakes to say the least

echoing my sentiments..actually think 1.18 is an insulting price 4 the Saffers
there could be a stand or two which could push the price north of 1.2x or 1.3x
but SA would have to be poor with the ball not to prevail
can't be bothered to get up so early to monitor it
will tape it and play catch up
think 1.18 is a fair enough price
were it the other way round would be 1.1 max

Nov 6, 2016 -- 9:17AM, jucel69 wrote:

Rabada is in beast mode. The aussies never bowled anything like this, which must be a worry as their batting is flakier than Philip Marlow's skin

Since Steyn's injury, ive been thinking Rabada and Phil would form a decent bowling attack even if the other two bowlers were weak. And so far it looks like these two will be enough to topple Aus on their own. Rabada certainly was in beast mode when he took those 2 wickets. I really like him. He and DeKock should serve this test side for a long period(21 and 24 respectively).

Bavuma should settle down in his role as his place is guaranteed for the next 10 years unless a better black african player comes along.

When the humiliation has been achieved, Aus will definitely turn to a flat track to salvage something better. And that's where we'll see what Rabada is made of.

Next Test at Hobart, a result venue, unless it rains.

You'd have to say Aus punters are keeping the draw down, as there is no point in backing Aus. Realistically, the draw should be north of 10.

Nov 6, 2016 -- 9:11PM, pxb wrote:

Next Test at Hobart, a result venue, unless it rains.You'd have to say Aus punters are keeping the draw down, as there is no point in backing Aus. Realistically, the draw should be north of 10.

That's my assumption too, although three fit bowlers and flat track will be contributing. 

I will be gutted if from my at one point I think over £25k draw green it ends up drawn and I win just under a hundred pounds. Over £3k green on SA though, which would come in handy.

After a terrible start to this match, I've managed to get myself to where I will have decent green on SAF and the draw at start of play today.

I expect SAF to win this by tea.

Another day of horizon to horizon blue skies in Perth.

We actually look forward to it raining.

you can count the number of teams in test history surviving a full day 5 with so few wickets left on one hand. no more than 3 times at most. the famous recent one with faf du plessis batting out a million dot balls at adelaide

as has been said australia just don't have the mentality to block it out even if they had batsmen left with enough ability which they don't

That LBW was due to the new DRS rule.

I also think Ball Tracker got it wrong. It tracked the ball from when it hit the pad, but it had already been deflected by hitting the boot.

Nov 7, 2016 -- 3:10AM, pxb wrote:

I also think Ball Tracker got it wrong. It tracked the ball from when it hit the pad, but it had already been deflected by hitting the boot.

Yeh no way that was hitting leg stump full. I actual think it was missing the stumps.

The ball tracker had the ball straightening a tad. It was massive banana reverse.

bowled from wide of the crease and massive late swing. had to be missing

Radaba is the real deal though, stood up here with a man down and been absolutely superb

very impressive against england last winter when steyn and philander were missing. won a test match virtually on his own

rabada injured!

I thought Smith's shot yesterday shows why he will never be a great player.
Terrible game awareness imo. Rabada bowling brilliantly, swinging it both ways & he's trying to cream every ball through the covers.

With Rabada maybe out. I've covered half my draw red, and if no wicket by lunch, I'll cover the rest.

TEMBA!

Rabada looking fine, so I didn't to cover the draw.

I told you he was a strong boy!

Philander looks like he would make short work of a few boerwursts.

Nov 7, 2016 -- 5:53AM, pxb wrote:

Philander looks like he would make short work of a few boerwursts.

They don't call him big Vern for nothing.

Ramping Lyon as much better than a number XI batsman and 6 runs off two balls. Can't believe the draw had got back to 7s with a full session left. I'd got my green on it up by backing at 26 anyway but as I traded some of that out at 12s, would still win £2k more on SA. Hard to believe that I started the weekend with a huge loss on the Spanish game and a shocking position in this test and finished it going to bed Sunday with £3.3k on SA likely to come in.

Couldn't resist a bit more last day thinkering with a draw back at 34 looking for lays at 25 and 20. Think it will drop pretty quickly if they get towards rescheduled tea.

Looks pretty close to me.

Moronic comment above.

Nov 3, 2016 -- 10:39PM, detraveller wrote:

Nov  3, 2016 --  9:56PM, Try My Best wrote:Not for the first time Whispering. God you are atrocious and that's being kind. First day and already looking down the barrel. Give it up man for gods sake. At least Detraveller admits he's clueless.Aren't we all the same? me clueless, WD losing money and you never talking anything relevant to the match in question :/

DT

Where is our friend when we need him?

What a test. SA were out of the game when Steyn left and end up winning comfortably.

Our friend was on fire at the end of day 1, just like Aus. Haven't seen him since.