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detraveller
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Both teams starting with the same odds. Dale Steyn still 50-50 while Philander is already out of the series.

Only two draws since 2000 in 14 games. One of them rain affected(3 days washed out) while the other was the famous 450+ chase by SA against India.

From what I can see from the scorecards, 3rd and 4th innings have produced better scores than 1st and 2nd.

Weather forecast showing thunderstorms throughout January, and rain forecasted on all days from 14-18th January. Cant call it from so far out though. Any locals' help will be appreciated regarding the weather.
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Report Whisperingdeath January 16, 2016 12:07 PM GMT
phew cleared SA red, close thing waste of 2 days but all set to ejoy the carnage now and Finn hasn't bowled yet!
Report dylansdad January 16, 2016 12:11 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 12:07PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


phew cleared SA red, close thing waste of 2 days but all set to ejoy the carnage now and Finn hasn't bowled yet!


in the process of reducing my SA as well

Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:12 PM GMT
Just bought some little palets bretons from a expat Frenchie. Absolutely delectable!!
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:12 PM GMT
WOW
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:12 PM GMT
G S M
Report dylansdad January 16, 2016 12:13 PM GMT
when ur lucky inGrin
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:13 PM GMT
Broad is a real streaky bowler. When he's on he's unplayable.
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 12:14 PM GMT
He is
Report DStyle January 16, 2016 12:14 PM GMT
that was unlucky for bavuma though. he's about 5'5 so that's a shocking bounce from a ball pitched that short.
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 12:14 PM GMT
Bowls too short too often imo, reminds me of Caddick in alot of ways
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:15 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 12:14PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Bowls too short too often imo, reminds me of Caddick in alot of ways


CaddickCry Always scratching at the crease like an old hen

Report cricketnut2 January 16, 2016 12:15 PM GMT
was just going to say, in a Test series, where there is help for seamers, Stuart Broad, will usually win a Test Match on his own, with 1 super bowling spell, todays his day.
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:16 PM GMT
What can SA defend?
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:16 PM GMT
150?
Report dylansdad January 16, 2016 12:16 PM GMT
backed SA @6.4 to clear red, would not be backing then otherwise leading by 25 with 5 wicks left??
Report Whisperingdeath January 16, 2016 12:17 PM GMT
Dylan,

It was stupid of us really when we had the odds on chance. Coulda, shoulda, woulda!

All happy now but missed a trick, not an opportunity because i would have kept the SA green but just cleared the red.

Dangerous pitch and conditions and the ball was hard. should know better, do know better! should have acted like an adult!
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:17 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 12:16PM, dylansdad wrote:


backed SA @6.4 to clear red, would not be backing then otherwise leading by 25 with 5 wicks left??


always a wise thing to do. Only takes one massive sting and you never do it again

Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 12:18 PM GMT
Price of SA seems really low.. 5.1??
Report detraveller January 16, 2016 12:18 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 12:16PM, jucel69 wrote:


What can SA defend?


323

Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 12:18 PM GMT
Dont think they'd win this 1 in 5
Report dylansdad January 16, 2016 12:19 PM GMT
wow backed @6.4 now well down, maybe factoring broad spell will end soon??
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:26 PM GMT
More inside edges than a rhombicosidodecahedron.
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:28 PM GMT
Vilas is going to score a few. He averages over 50 here
Report dylansdad January 16, 2016 12:30 PM GMT
still cant get this price 4.8, when leading by 34Crazy
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 12:32 PM GMT
thats unreal again lol
Report dylansdad January 16, 2016 12:32 PM GMT
what a catch
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 12:32 PM GMT
he's short leg for life now
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:33 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 12:28PM, jucel69 wrote:


Vilas is going to score a few. He averages over 50 here


Laugh

Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:35 PM GMT
A bit stiff that was
Report detraveller January 16, 2016 12:37 PM GMT
I hope they get over 100 lead. Would be great to see Rabada having a go at them, preferably today.
Report dylansdad January 16, 2016 12:38 PM GMT
just checked run lines, over 100 and 125 matched @1.01 and over 150 @1.02, some account's taking a serious beating
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:38 PM GMT
Not very often you see the home team decimated like this
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:38 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 12:38PM, dylansdad wrote:


just checked run lines, over 100 and 125 matched @1.01 and over 150 @1.02, some account's taking a serious beating


50 is looking a pushLaugh

Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:39 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWz2AyDD6Zc
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 12:40 PM GMT
is 100 the lowest run total they offer?
Report Whisperingdeath January 16, 2016 12:40 PM GMT
got to go Ladies,

it's been emotional

have some green on England! enough to take Mrs 'Death for a nice meal tonight.

What I love about cricket betting is if you are man enough to say I've been a fool .....or even it wasn't my fault the luck was against me!.....you still have time to correct your error!
Report dylansdad January 16, 2016 12:40 PM GMT
i'm done in this match now all green but who would being backing SA @ 12.5,time to sit out
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 12:41 PM GMT
amen do that WD
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:42 PM GMT
It is the sort of pitch where this could happen. England could have collapsed like this yesterday tbf
Report dylansdad January 16, 2016 12:44 PM GMT
test match end days 1,2,3 matched @60's
Report Whisperingdeath January 16, 2016 12:46 PM GMT
and The Lord spake unto 'Death

stop being an idiot I can't keep bailing you out!

and 'Death replied Alleluja Lord, I have heard and understood the word of God but I cannot promise to sin no moreWink
Report Foinavon January 16, 2016 12:47 PM GMT
Well done Whispering, have cashed out too. Had decent green on England from the start. Could have been more but happy with the result.
Report jucel69 January 16, 2016 12:52 PM GMT
Going to stick my neck out and say Bayliss has transformed this side. The pivotal part being giving Stokes the responsibility of number 6 and 4th seamer. That has really galvanised the side. Broad has also been far fitter in the last year and has grown into his senior role.
Still have a few things to iron out but I might just be starting to have faith in the England team again.
Report slip5 January 16, 2016 12:54 PM GMT
This is a disaster for south african cricket
Report slip5 January 16, 2016 12:55 PM GMT
todays batting display and yesterday guleem bodi fixing scandal.
Report slip5 January 16, 2016 12:56 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 12:42PM, jucel69 wrote:


It is the sort of pitch where this could happen. England could have collapsed like this yesterday tbf


if you have batsman that are committed to playing long innings the pitch is no problem

Report detraveller January 16, 2016 12:57 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 12:54PM, slip5 wrote:


This is a disaster for south african cricket


They aren't really interested in being the number 1 side(they have other priorities). Now they are soon going to lose AB to politics as well. Won't be surprised if Steyn hangs his boots soon with the trouble he has had with his body. In short, SA aren't just beaten, they are DIVIDED.

Report detraveller January 16, 2016 12:58 PM GMT
Mind you the game isn't over yet. The local boys could get a sniff if tehre is a decent total. SA price moving with every run.
Report Injera January 16, 2016 12:59 PM GMT
This SA price is baffling.

England must think they're at Trent Bridge with this swing.

Glorious scenes indeed.
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 12:59 PM GMT
Been rumoured that AB is going to play in the big bash next year
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2016 1:01 PM GMT
anderson needs to be put out to grass
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2016 1:02 PM GMT
surely even Eng can't contrive to not get these runs
could well wobble a bit tho'
Report detraveller January 16, 2016 1:03 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 12:59PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Been rumoured that AB is going to play in the big bash next year


There is no fun in watching a player of that quality beating the hell out of club players. After retirement yes, but if thats the reason he retires, then CSA will cross WICB in ineptness.

Report slip5 January 16, 2016 1:04 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 1:03PM, detraveller wrote:


Jan 16, 2016 -- 12:59PM, tomtimtum wrote:Been rumoured that AB is going to play in the big bash next yearThere is no fun in watching a player of that quality beating the hell out of club players. After retirement yes, but if thats the reason he retires, then CSA will cross WICB in ineptness.


yeah he don't want to go down in later in life with regrets

Report slip5 January 16, 2016 1:05 PM GMT
ssouth africa just have to get the talent back in the test match scene the likes of ingram and miller
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2016 1:06 PM GMT
isn't sport fantastic?
produces unbelievable scenarios which etch themselves in history
Report slip5 January 16, 2016 1:08 PM GMT
duplussies might has well play his shots here and try to get south africa up to 100
Report Foinavon January 16, 2016 1:08 PM GMT
anderson needs to be put out to grass

Wouldn't be surprised if Jimmy calls it a day on Test cricket before the year is out.
Steyn will go before him, might only play one more is my guess.
Report cricketnut2 January 16, 2016 1:09 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 12:17PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


Dylan,It was stupid of us really when we had the odds on chance. Coulda, shoulda, woulda!All happy now but missed a trick, not an opportunity because i would have kept the SA green but just cleared the red.Dangerous pitch and conditions and the ball was hard. should know better, do know better! should have acted like an adult!


Pitch is not dangerous Fact

Report cool_hand_luke January 16, 2016 1:12 PM GMT
anyone fancy the draw?
Report detraveller January 16, 2016 1:16 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 1:12PM, cool_hand_luke wrote:


anyone fancy the draw?


Faf is still there...

Report cool_hand_luke January 16, 2016 1:22 PM GMT
300 can become under 100 in a few hours, that's for me
Report slip5 January 16, 2016 1:23 PM GMT
very unlikely these 2 can play out 2 hours
Report cool_hand_luke January 16, 2016 1:25 PM GMT
thats probably why its 300 however much better than having a stab at a 1.06 shot and may get the bad light to assist
Report cricketnut2 January 16, 2016 1:32 PM GMT
To assist what, its not like its the last session this afternoon, however I wouldn't back a 1.06 shot
Report detraveller January 16, 2016 1:42 PM GMT
Faf not even bothering to protect Viljeon. Seems uninterested, like the rest of the senior members of the team.
Report cricketnut2 January 16, 2016 1:59 PM GMT
74 for England to take the series, surely even England can't balls this one up.
Report slip5 January 16, 2016 2:01 PM GMT
83 all out is a disaster for south african
Report slip5 January 16, 2016 2:01 PM GMT
cricket and sport
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 2:06 PM GMT
Anyone laid England, looking for a wobble?
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2016 2:06 PM GMT
how many wkts Eng gonna lose chasing this?
i'll say no less than 4
Report Captain Wurzel January 16, 2016 2:22 PM GMT
surely even England can't balls this one up.




Have England got a habit of failing to chase down small targets in Tests ?
Report cricketnut2 January 16, 2016 2:23 PM GMT
South Africa are now very flat, so I can't see it being many wickets that will fall.
Report detraveller January 16, 2016 2:24 PM GMT
Dont be surprised if there are some news out of SA camp after this match or series. Amla has already resigned, AB has said he is a standin captain. Steyn cant get fit. Lets see...
Report cricketnut2 January 16, 2016 2:24 PM GMT
and yes they have been known to not chase smallish targets down, but not this smallish target and 16-0 says their not going to have many problems
Report ayt January 16, 2016 2:27 PM GMT
i bet 166$ on test match end market on day 3 at 3.00 ,,now worried
Report Captain Wurzel January 16, 2016 2:39 PM GMT
been known to not chase smallish targets down



When was the last time they failed to chase say 150 or less in the fourth innings of a Test ?
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 2:44 PM GMT
Is this how Hales bats for Notts in first class matches? Don't understand his attitude
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2016 2:53 PM GMT
he knows someone has to play the sheet anchor role to his 'flamboyant' captain
Report Fatslogger January 16, 2016 3:13 PM GMT
Glad I got on England at 2.96 just after lunch (too greedy in wanting 3.05 during the interval), which left me 2.2k green England. Wasn't expecting it to come so good so fast but it did seem a very big price in what always looked like a two horse race with the scores level. Been an interesting series for me: plus 3k first test; minus 2.7k second; plus 2.2k this one.
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2016 3:16 PM GMT
was the SA 2nd inns played in a parallel universe?
amazing that back to back inns can be the total antithesis of each other
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 3:17 PM GMT
Dont give it all back in the 4th, FS Laugh
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2016 3:17 PM GMT
doubt Eng will persevere with Hales as opener after this series
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 3:18 PM GMT
He doesn't have a strong enough technique to be a compton type batsmen
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 3:22 PM GMT
Compton gone berserk Laugh
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2016 3:26 PM GMT
how long timewise did that SA 2nd inns last,guys?
Report Fatslogger January 16, 2016 3:28 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 3:17PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Dont give it all back in the 4th, FS


I know. The frustrating thing is that I was well well up on the second test close of day 1 but couldn't resist a lot of draw laying, going deeper as the price shortened to what seemed ridiculous levels. Whole sessions then kept going by with 0 or 1 wicket in them.

Report DStyle January 16, 2016 3:40 PM GMT
root surely for MoM.

Broad bowled very well in excellent bowling conditions, but Root batted very well in challenging batting conditions.
Report tomtimtum January 16, 2016 3:57 PM GMT
Would have given it to Root too
Report Fatslogger January 16, 2016 4:01 PM GMT
Broad for me. Root was excellent but 6/17 is a lot more impressive than 110, even in a lowish scoring game.
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2016 4:02 PM GMT
bowlers win matches
root's really blossomed into a terrific player
that spat with the oz inbred was the making of him
Report Injera January 16, 2016 4:18 PM GMT
6 wickets in 10 overs was again incredible from Broad.

Can't believe this game ended on Day 3. Th draw was 2.3 only yesterday!!
Report cricketnut2 January 16, 2016 5:41 PM GMT
Another very professional performance from England, which is very unusual
Report Fatslogger January 16, 2016 7:55 PM GMT

Jan 16, 2016 -- 4:18PM, Injera wrote:


6 wickets in 10 overs was again incredible from Broad. Can't believe this game ended on Day 3. Th draw was 2.3 only yesterday!!


Day 1 wasn't it, with SA 1 down for 100 or so? As whisperingdeath was saying earlier in the thread, open goal that. I missed it but did get enough of England at 6 at the same sort of time to do well. Getting them at near 3 at lunch today seemed an even better bet, which I'm a little disappointed I didn't take a bigger risk on and wipe out my SA green to do it. Generally think England pretty undervalued all series, although obviously let the chance to win the second test slip through their fingers.

Report pxb January 16, 2016 8:03 PM GMT
Managed a 400 profit despite not expecting that SAF collapse at all. In fact I thought SAF would likely grind out 250+ and a win.

Centurion a similar ground to Wanderers, which bodes a similar outcome.
Report mafeking January 16, 2016 8:42 PM GMT
can remember going into the summer series against new zealand people were talking like england would do well win a match let alone a series with the very difficult schedule they had coming up

well since then they've won 6 and lost 5 and it could have been better with the scoreline in the emirates being very flattering to pakistan. first time in a long time we hold all the test trophies against the major sides - oz, india and the saffers Happy
Report geordie1956 January 16, 2016 9:11 PM GMT
We have the foundations of a really good squad (1or2 exceptions) within the test format and the exciting prospect of most of them being around for the next few years - it will be interesting to see how we perform in the T20 tournament coming up and in the limited overs field where we have always consistently underachieved
Report cricketnut2 January 16, 2016 10:20 PM GMT
doubt, that we will do very well in the t20's simply, because its in the sub continent where we don't play particularly well. However I do think we have a good squad, but only Abdul Rashid, that is a really good spin bowler.
Report Whisperingdeath January 17, 2016 7:38 PM GMT
“Trevolution”

From The Guardian

I still think we’re two or three years away from possibly our best period,” says Trevor Bayliss

“Sometimes I don’t say anything on purpose,” he says. “A player has actually got to make mistakes to learn from them. If someone is telling them all the time what to do then they don’t necessarily recognise it themselves.”

Despite this intervention Bayliss remains a firm believer in the primacy of the captain and says his own role is one of a sounding board. Alastair Cook, who has now overseen away wins in India and South Africa to go with his two Ashes victories, appears to have blossomed as a result.

“The coaching staff who were here before me talk about how much he’s come on as a leader, the way he talks to the players and the way they listen to him. I believe the captain is the boss. The coaching staff are there to give him options on and off the park.

“He’s the general out in the middle, and he’s the one the rest of the players look up to. He’s certainly taken that role on since I’ve been here very well.”
Report dylansdad January 17, 2016 7:51 PM GMT
well i've layed SA in the first 3 test from the off, and gone big every time they went close 2 even's or below, any reason why i shouldn't keeep on going???????
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