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they could remove fielding restrictions outside of the powerplay
have a maximum bat weight, and go back a few years and remove new designs
or for a laugh
have a ball with different textures on either side
allow bowlers to pick the seam, or scuff it with a bottle top
have a maximum bat weight, and go back a few years and remove new designs
or for a laugh
have a ball with different textures on either side
allow bowlers to pick the seam, or scuff it with a bottle top
There seems to be no appetite to give the bowlers any help at all.
A good pitch = a batting pitch in most peoples' eyes. Groundsmen are encouraged to take all the green grass off and not let the ends get dry for the spinners. The white ball hardly ever deviates..it's very dull.
Never understood why a bowler can only bowl 10 overs, when a batsman can bat 50!
How about a run penalty for losing a wicket? Allow bowlers to bowl down the leg side within a foot of the batsman? Allow unlimited bouncers over the shoulder but only 1 above head high..
A good pitch = a batting pitch in most peoples' eyes. Groundsmen are encouraged to take all the green grass off and not let the ends get dry for the spinners. The white ball hardly ever deviates..it's very dull.
Never understood why a bowler can only bowl 10 overs, when a batsman can bat 50!
How about a run penalty for losing a wicket? Allow bowlers to bowl down the leg side within a foot of the batsman? Allow unlimited bouncers over the shoulder but only 1 above head high..
Happy as it is thanks, great viewing. Leave test cricket for the purist who enjoys seeing teams struggle to get 250 all out. 50 overs games are about entertainment, ask anyone at the Oval yesterday
Agree with tony. The more different the 3 formats are, the better for the game IMO.
bowlers should be allowed to be bowl more overs. should let 1 bowler bowl say 15 overs
why should pie chuckers which often what the 5th bowler amounts to have to bowl the same number of overs as your best bowlers ? you certainly wouldn't get the 5th bowler bowling 10 of the first 50 overs in a test match. one day cricket shouldn't have lower quality bowling
why should pie chuckers which often what the 5th bowler amounts to have to bowl the same number of overs as your best bowlers ? you certainly wouldn't get the 5th bowler bowling 10 of the first 50 overs in a test match. one day cricket shouldn't have lower quality bowling
Jun 13, 2015 -- 7:53AM, pxb wrote:
Agree with tony. The more different the 3 formats are, the better for the game IMO.
Also agree.The three formats are good for the game.Difference is great.As in any sport it will find a natural equilibrium between attack and defense.Don't over officiate.
T20 is there for the slogathon.
ODI should be more balanced between bat and ball.
ODI should be more balanced between bat and ball.
Jun 13, 2015 -- 7:07AM, tonyf wrote:
Happy as it is thanks, great viewing. Leave test cricket for the purist who enjoys seeing teams struggle to get 250 all out. 50 overs games are about entertainment, ask anyone at the Oval yesterday
exactly this, well said, one day games and 20/20 is about runs and entertainment, no watching batsman struggle to score
I agree with Fred that T20 is the format for the batsmen.
ODIs have the opportunity to see all the facets of cricket compressed into one day.
As Mafe says, bowling restrictions lead to more filth being served up. We get to see the best batsmen make big scores but the better bowlers only bowl 3 short spells and that's their lot.
It's a lower grade of cricket but it sells tickets.
ODIs have the opportunity to see all the facets of cricket compressed into one day.
As Mafe says, bowling restrictions lead to more filth being served up. We get to see the best batsmen make big scores but the better bowlers only bowl 3 short spells and that's their lot.
It's a lower grade of cricket but it sells tickets.
another rule change should be - away team always bat first.
reasons.
1)fans want to see a run chase ,so its better the home team are chasing , leading to a exciting finish.
2)a team could get a fluke run of winning the toss 100 times on the run ,so therefore tossing a coin isnt by definition equally fair.
3)its boring hoping that when the away team bat 2nd, fans dont actually want to see any sixes and fours hit , so the game becomes stale.
4)cheering 6s and 4s is better and happens more often than cheering the odd wicket.
5)this is 100% fair unlike the toss of a coin.
6)fans can turn up late knowing they still get to see their team bat.
7)teams that bat first win more games than batting 2nd so again the game is decided on the toss of a coin,if away team bat first then this would equal out over year.
8)if the stats prove that batting first gives an advantage - say 20 runs ,then handicap all games to team batting 2nd gets a 20 runs added to their score.
reasons.
1)fans want to see a run chase ,so its better the home team are chasing , leading to a exciting finish.
2)a team could get a fluke run of winning the toss 100 times on the run ,so therefore tossing a coin isnt by definition equally fair.
3)its boring hoping that when the away team bat 2nd, fans dont actually want to see any sixes and fours hit , so the game becomes stale.
4)cheering 6s and 4s is better and happens more often than cheering the odd wicket.
5)this is 100% fair unlike the toss of a coin.
6)fans can turn up late knowing they still get to see their team bat.
7)teams that bat first win more games than batting 2nd so again the game is decided on the toss of a coin,if away team bat first then this would equal out over year.
8)if the stats prove that batting first gives an advantage - say 20 runs ,then handicap all games to team batting 2nd gets a 20 runs added to their score.
Allow the chuckers to return
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It is what it is to be fair. The bowlers need to come up with better ideas, more deception and use of flight/ slower deliveries, change of angle etc. Personally I prefer a tight low scoring game that keeps you on the edge of your seat where every run is priceless. Bigger bats and smaller boundaries don't impress me. Nicking singles and forcing a captain to bring in the field and then hit over the top is much better. It is hard to defend when the ball is sailing over your head by 30 meters from a mishit. I am old school I'm afraid but I enjoy all forms of the game it is just harder for me to get excited when the result is often a lottery amd not a test.
!It is what it is to be fair. The bowlers need to come up with better ideas, more deception and use of flight/ slower deliveries, change of angle etc. Personally I prefer a tight low scoring game that keeps you on the edge of your seat where every run is priceless. Bigger bats and smaller boundaries don't impress me. Nicking singles and forcing a captain to bring in the field and then hit over the top is much better. It is hard to defend when the ball is sailing over your head by 30 meters from a mishit. I am old school I'm afraid but I enjoy all forms of the game it is just harder for me to get excited when the result is often a lottery amd not a test.
What should the ICC to redress the balance between bat and ball in ODIs?
Have every match against Australia.
Have every match against Australia.
You have a cocktail of great pitches and bad bowlers, so runs a plenty. Still I have loved this series and England's new style. More of this for me.
lessen the weight of bats, would help bowlers, however crowds, that go to ODI'S,want to be entertained, which they have been, so leave the 50 over game alone. Just scrap T20 altogether and have more 50/50 cricket at County Level, so 4 Leagues of 5 teams, with Scotland and Ireland added, to make up the 20 teams. 8 games of 50/50 4 home, 4 away for each team. The Top 2 in each group go through. County and Test Cricket, should stay the same, a good contest between bat and ball, is the best cricket of all, where bowlers, have to get batsmen OUT.
No changes needed at all.In the past the standard of batting was weak cf the present.Bowlers did not have to be that good.So it`s up to the bowlers to improve like batsmen and indeed fielding have.This applies to all levels of the game inc. club and juniors.Bowlers get into the nets and work it out !!!
Jun 20, 2015 -- 4:49AM, cricketnut2 wrote:
lessen the weight of bats, would help bowlers, however crowds, that go to ODI'S,want to be entertained, which they have been, so leave the 50 over game alone. Just scrap T20 altogether and have more 50/50 cricket at County Level, so 4 Leagues of 5 teams, with Scotland and Ireland added, to make up the 20 teams. 8 games of 50/50 4 home, 4 away for each team. The Top 2 in each group go through. County and Test Cricket, should stay the same, a good contest between bat and ball, is the best cricket of all, where bowlers, have to get batsmen OUT.
jesus u really do hate boundaries and T20!ur living in the past im affraid, runs are the future
Keep bats as they are, but put laws in place so no further improvements/modifications can be made.
Allow 3 bowlers to bowl upto 12 overs. Divide the rest between 2 or more bowlers as you see fit. This should mean teams are balanced with 3 specialist bowlers, 2 allrounders, keeper and 5 batsmen
Give the team 3 new balls and let them use them as they see fit. This give the team options, reverse swing can still be a factor and they can attack with a new ball in the middle overs if they feel the need. They can use one ball from overs 1 to 20. Then bring out the other new ball for the next 10 and then revert back to the older ball for the next 20, and sporadically using the third new ball. Or they can just stick with a ball from each end and maybe switch over 30 and use one ball from both ends and try get it reversing. Endless strategies can come into play for the bowling teams.
If this doesn't bring the bowlers back into the game more then I'd look at the field restrictions again.
Allow 3 bowlers to bowl upto 12 overs. Divide the rest between 2 or more bowlers as you see fit. This should mean teams are balanced with 3 specialist bowlers, 2 allrounders, keeper and 5 batsmen
Give the team 3 new balls and let them use them as they see fit. This give the team options, reverse swing can still be a factor and they can attack with a new ball in the middle overs if they feel the need. They can use one ball from overs 1 to 20. Then bring out the other new ball for the next 10 and then revert back to the older ball for the next 20, and sporadically using the third new ball. Or they can just stick with a ball from each end and maybe switch over 30 and use one ball from both ends and try get it reversing. Endless strategies can come into play for the bowling teams.
If this doesn't bring the bowlers back into the game more then I'd look at the field restrictions again.
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Give the team 3 new balls and let them use them as they see fit.
The Indians won't go for that.
A better idea is one new ball and an optional 2nd new ball that the team can use whenever they like, or not if they choose (presumably on spin friendly surfaces). The Indians and other subcontinent teams would go for that, and it would add a new tactical dimension and suspense to the game, especially in the middle overs which are currently rather dull.
The Indians won't go for that.
A better idea is one new ball and an optional 2nd new ball that the team can use whenever they like, or not if they choose (presumably on spin friendly surfaces). The Indians and other subcontinent teams would go for that, and it would add a new tactical dimension and suspense to the game, especially in the middle overs which are currently rather dull.
Or in the same vein as Tests make the 2nd new ball available after a certain number of overs, say 30.
Or in the same vein as Tests make the 2nd new ball available after a certain number of overs, say 30.
I did contemplate between 2 or 3 new balls. 2 makes more sense, but I thought the option of the 3rd new ball going to a 90-95mph strike bowler in the latter overs added an extra element of excitement to the game. Plus some batsmen would look to hit the bowler out of the park as they prefer hitting the harder new ball.
Also the white ball never seems to last 50 overs. It would always need changing around the 35 overs mark and teams would select another old ball that looked like it would reverse swing. This element has disappeared from the one day game to a degree now. Maybe the 3rd ball option could be a choice of an old ball. (The team loosing the toss could have first pick from the old ball box)
Also the white ball never seems to last 50 overs. It would always need changing around the 35 overs mark and teams would select another old ball that looked like it would reverse swing. This element has disappeared from the one day game to a degree now. Maybe the 3rd ball option could be a choice of an old ball. (The team loosing the toss could have first pick from the old ball box)
that's a really good idea.
so a ball with a proper seam, i.e. a duke ball, and then another ball, the use of which is entirely at the discretion of the bowling side, including not using it at all.
so a ball with a proper seam, i.e. a duke ball, and then another ball, the use of which is entirely at the discretion of the bowling side, including not using it at all.
The will never change completely to Duke balls despite it being the superior ball. I'm guessing due to sponsorship ties with kookaburra.
A new white ball generally wont last 50 overs, so using a second ball is pretty much a necessity. That's why I prefer the 3 ball option (either 3 new or 2 new and 1 old, again at the teams discretions) The old ball to aid reverse swing and help the spinners.
I have some even more out there ideas to revolutionise the one day game which in my opinion is in dire need of modernising. A game where a toss can pretty much decide a match is just not cricket!
A new white ball generally wont last 50 overs, so using a second ball is pretty much a necessity. That's why I prefer the 3 ball option (either 3 new or 2 new and 1 old, again at the teams discretions) The old ball to aid reverse swing and help the spinners.
I have some even more out there ideas to revolutionise the one day game which in my opinion is in dire need of modernising. A game where a toss can pretty much decide a match is just not cricket!
In a move to give bowlers a bit of breathing room in 50-overs cricket, the ICC board has decided to do away with catching fielders in the first ten overs, get rid of the batting Powerplay, and allow five fielders outside the 30-yard circle in the last ten overs of an ODI innings. The other notable change that will take place from July 5 will see free hits awarded for all no balls in ODI and T20 internationals, not just when bowlers overstep.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/891619.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/891619.html
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