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not a lot to work with but WI drew with NZ in '02 and lost against Bangers in'09
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I think we have to see how dry the pitch is pxb. There is talk about playing another spinner in place of a seamer ( Jordan ). I think it was Vaughan saying we should have picked Rashid to see how we would go. So Rashid and Moen Ali could come in for Jordan and Treadwell if Rashid isn't sent home and Ali has arrived and acclimatised!
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WI have dropped Benn for a medium pacer.
Although, the reason I think there will be runs is Grenada is a small place dependent on tourism. I expect everyone from the prime minister down has had a quiet word with the groundskeeper to make sure this goes 5 days. |
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Also, chances are both Cook and Trott won't fail twice again. And England's batting was decent enough after them.
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Allegedly the pitch is quite damp & has natural wear and tear towards day 5. Weather looks ok, last first class game here:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-domestic-2014-15/engine/match/787125.html Think I'm going to lay the draw |
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Mmm! In the last first class match here, a spinner got a 10for.
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That was over 2 innings.
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Jucel, I've reached the same conclusion, but still a bit concerned that WI didn't replace Benn with another spinner.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cricket/inform-devendra-bishoo-called-up-by-west-indies-to-unleash-legspin-late-on-against-england-10191215.html
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Gee its hard to know what to take from that last 1st Class match. Spinners took 9 of the 10 first inns wickets. And the seamers bowled for the first 9 overs in total in the inns. Match seemed to steady, but the class Batsman got a ton. Mmmm more confused than ever, wait for the toss!
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West Indies are the new Pakistan for me just in the case of WI there is no point in paying a bribe because they are likely to capitulate without pecuniary inducement.
I would like to have a look at the pitch first. They paid plenty of dough to get this test so will want the wicket to last 5 days but if they have taken the grass of the question is will it dry out. The only other question is will England have the bottle to try Rashid? I think not! |
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This weather is vexing me just a tad. Probably be off all day ffs
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Top stuff Pamela
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how we looking i've got a ave lay on England @1.69, but back price @ 1.53 at the moment?
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after a slow start around 2 runs an over samuels picks the rate up at the end of the day
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Forecast sunny tomorrow. Should be a good batting day, and draw to come in somewhat.
I'm not watching this. What are the prospects for spin later? |
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Thx Jucel.
Although new ball still to come, so WI all out for 230ish on the cards. |
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I get the feeling the MO from the WI cricket board is two fold. Make sure the game lasts 5 days & make sure WI don't get hammered. Just like Bangladesh, I think WI feel a draw is like a win.
I started off laying the draw yesterday at 2.6 & then flipped it over when the draw came down from 4.1 to 3.8 (as the inns stabilised). Therefore sitting on a large draw green & zero on Eng/WI. Feels like another long haul to me. WI bowling without Taylor looks pretty toothless. I've seen Gabriel bowl a few times and have been underwhelmed. Roach is down on pace & Holder is steady. Bishoo will probably be negated by the slowness of the pitch. I expect England to get a sizeable total and then winkle them out slowly but surely. |
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It seems cloud cover, not humidity helps swing.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-18262145 Which makes sense to me. I was always sceptical of the humidity theory, which determines air density. |
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What a snooze fest this series has been
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gonna be a real struggle to get a result if they're losing 15 or 20 overs a day
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raining at the moment, how much time we going to lose?
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Well I'm out of the market at the moment having backed the draw then layed the draw several times for a net profit of 65 pence
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More rain imminent apparently.
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I'm impressed with Stokes and Jordan's pace with such an old ball.
Very hard to oppose the draw with this weather. |
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Just had a little tactical lay of the draw now that the price has shrunk due to the rain. Hopefully England might have some success with the new ball and cause the draw to go out.
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even if england knock them over for 300 they'll do well to be level by end of day 3 with all these interruptions. probably gonna need a need a session with 4 or 5 wickets at some stage for england to get over the line here
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Well we just don't know. A couple of quick wickets when play resumes and things will look different. Still doubt that either side can pull off a win and hope to be on the right side of the draw before the fat lady sings.
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not a single yorker.
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This last wicket pair showing why it's difficult (or unwise) to back England to win anything at the moment.
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Just unwise to think England are ever going to win another Test, the way we are at the moment and won't be surprised if we are about 60-4, by the end of play today.
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Yes, having another fence sitting session now to see which way the wind blows.
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Wouldn't like to be sitting on Eng overnight at 1.8. Who knows if there will be rain again the morning??
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