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Carberry has looked awful so far and Agar may be out having been selected for the Test squad.

OTOH 4 of Thunder's top 5 looked very poor in their last game, Morgan especially. Blizzard being the exception. Sandhu looked good, but doubt he has played much at the WACA.

While favourites have been going down in this BBL. I don't expect that to be the case today and an easy Scorchers win.
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Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 9:12 AM GMT
it's a good old africaan carve up
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:13 AM GMT
12 an over is pathetic.
Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 9:14 AM GMT
hussey swinging like a rusty gate
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 9:18 AM GMT
Perth have not been that bad. These are perfect conditions for batting and the Thunder are only on par at this stage. You would want 180 absolute minimum here.
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:20 AM GMT
180 too much for perth with this line up
Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 9:21 AM GMT
we need to see some big hits
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 9:21 AM GMT

Jan 1, 2015 -- 9:20AM, Canaletto . wrote:


180 too much for perth with this line up


Agree but that's not the bowlers fault.

Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 9:22 AM GMT
if Klinger goes early it really opens it up I think
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:23 AM GMT
That last over proves to me its fixed.
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:23 AM GMT
Klinger will not get a score today. The match is already decided by higher powers
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:24 AM GMT
lol did you see that last ball from Yaser? Not fixed? ExcitedLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:25 AM GMT
not the bowlers fault? Dixon has been smashed for plenty
Report kt22 January 1, 2015 9:25 AM GMT
These fix merchants are worse then death riders.
Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 9:26 AM GMT
how can you be so sure it's fixed, maybe they're just off their game
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:26 AM GMT
lol and again. This Yaser is like the rest of the murky lot
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:28 AM GMT
I know
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:29 AM GMT
This fixing **** makes me sick.
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:30 AM GMT
You just watch their batting
Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 9:31 AM GMT
could be a close game
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:31 AM GMT
Authorities said let them get to 180 lads and you make 140 in reply. That way the crowd get to see a game and we have bought the big named Thunder a win
Report BJT January 1, 2015 9:31 AM GMT
Have to think only 5-10 over par.  Looks like a ~170 pitch for mine, so Thunder a pretty good lay.  Massively under the odds.
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 9:52 AM GMT
What's with opening up with your sh#t bowlers(with respect to Kallis) surely Cummins or Sanduh would have bowled one of the first two.
Report DStyle January 1, 2015 9:53 AM GMT
don't mind fat jacques with the new ball in case there's a touch of swing, but ffs lalor before cummins or sanduh?
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 9:54 AM GMT
Perth did the same thing and it played Kallis in nicely.
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:56 AM GMT
all over
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 9:57 AM GMT
Braindead once again or a fix. I know what I think!
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 9:57 AM GMT
I layed off the Thunder when Hauritz came on Cry
Report mikehhh January 1, 2015 9:59 AM GMT
fixing posts yawn
Report doridoru January 1, 2015 10:00 AM GMT
MASSIVE FIX = 2015 YEAR OF THE FIX!
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 10:01 AM GMT
and again.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 10:02 AM GMT
looks like a donut for me tonight Sad
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 10:02 AM GMT
Two times in two stumps hit. No fix?
Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 10:03 AM GMT
stop with the fix posts

if you are losing then I am sorry to hear that, we all lose at some time but it's not right to assume the whole thing is against you
Report kt22 January 1, 2015 10:05 AM GMT
Fix merchants need to man up and cop a red screen
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 10:05 AM GMT
Are you watching the same game as me?
Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 10:07 AM GMT
thank **** he got up not injured
Report yashgupta January 1, 2015 10:11 AM GMT
**** that man carburry
Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 10:11 AM GMT
he needs to bowl a few underarm deliveries to carberry
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 10:14 AM GMT
No fix gents?
Report mikehhh January 1, 2015 10:15 AM GMT
sometimes in cricket batsman actually you no hit the ball and sometimes they are out...
Report nigel no idea January 1, 2015 10:15 AM GMT
another chanc e for carburry to show his class. surprise me carburry please
Report mikehhh January 1, 2015 10:16 AM GMT
i guess that was a fix catch too
Report Joel January 1, 2015 10:17 AM GMT
Must be the worst fixers in the world, if they did their job properly the team that is going to win would be 1.01
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 10:17 AM GMT
I am disgusted
Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 10:17 AM GMT
Perth have a bad batting lineup and bowled poorly, it's never going to go well for them when that happens

they are very much a bowling dominant team
Report BJT January 1, 2015 10:18 AM GMT
Thread full of aftertimers and fix callers IMO...  Waste of time.
Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 10:20 AM GMT
well done King, good bet imo
Report DStyle January 1, 2015 10:20 AM GMT
no pressure on carberry now. doubters should probably judge him based on how he goes now, and then think about how such a free flowing player has been broken by england.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 10:23 AM GMT
I don't think the Carberry knockers can be dubbed doubters. Plenty of evidence to suggest he is ordinary at best.
Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 10:25 AM GMT
run a ball isn't enough from Carberry, needs to clear the fence a few times

I am not a watcher of english domestic cricket but from what I seen in the ashes and now in this format, Carberry isn't very good in these conditions
Report BJT January 1, 2015 10:26 AM GMT

Jan 1, 2015 -- 10:20AM, DStyle wrote:


no pressure on carberry now. doubters should probably judge him based on how he goes now, and then think about how such a free flowing player has been broken by england.


First class strike rate of 51.  Hardly a free flowing player.  Maybe for England standards, but come on now.

Report therhino January 1, 2015 10:31 AM GMT
This is the second season I've watched most BBL matches and it struck me last year there was a seemingly drastic increase in catches dropped from ODI cricket. Same again this year.
Report kt22 January 1, 2015 10:31 AM GMT
A good old fashion 1.01 gubbing would be nice
Report BJT January 1, 2015 10:33 AM GMT
For that, Carberry would have to show something.  Looks lost out there.  Does look to take a bit of time to get in, so these 2 need to go on with it here or it simply is not happening.
Report DStyle January 1, 2015 10:34 AM GMT
nice bit of confirmation bias there bjt.

in the 2013 t20 competition in the uk, his strike rate was 142.
Report BJT January 1, 2015 10:34 AM GMT
What has it been for the rest of his games then?  100?
Report nigel no idea January 1, 2015 10:35 AM GMT
six go for it carburry prove me wrong
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 10:35 AM GMT
I have no doubt spot fixing occurs in the BBL as in all forms of cricket. Big leg side wides on the first ball of the over always seem suss to me. But teams do not conspire to lose a match. There's no way that wouldn't get out.
Report DStyle January 1, 2015 10:36 AM GMT
i'm not claiming he's world class by any stretch and he's 34 ffs, but he's a man who found some real form and confidence in the twilight years of his career, particularly in the limited overs format, and had it snubbed out by the ECB.
Report BJT January 1, 2015 10:37 AM GMT
Yes, but he had 1 good season, and struggled the rest of the time.  Hard call blaming ECB for that because he couldn't play 5 day international cricket based on domestic T20 form.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 10:39 AM GMT
in the 2013 t20 competition in the uk, his strike rate was 142

would that not also suggest the UK competition is rubbish?
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 10:39 AM GMT
How many times has Andy Maher talked about tugging it tonight.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 10:41 AM GMT

Jan 1, 2015 -- 10:35AM, Blake84 wrote:


I have no doubt spot fixing occurs in the BBL as in all forms of cricket. Big leg side wides on the first ball of the over always seem suss to me. But teams do not conspire to lose a match. There's no way that wouldn't get out.


A lot of people think this way. But where can you actually place those bets? With what bookies?

Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 10:43 AM GMT
You bet how many runs off a ball or an over. Wide off first ball is a good start to ensuring you go for 6 or what ever off that over.
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 10:44 AM GMT
On bet 365 for one.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 10:46 AM GMT
I get ya. I thought you were talking about backing a wide for first delivery.
Report BJT January 1, 2015 10:46 AM GMT
Usually get a couple of ticks on here for a wide.  I think it is very unlikely.
Report kt22 January 1, 2015 10:49 AM GMT

Jan 1, 2015 -- 10:41AM, therhino wrote:


Jan  1, 2015 -- 10:35AM, Blake84 wrote:I have no doubt spot fixing occurs in the BBL as in all forms of cricket. Big leg side wides on the first ball of the over always seem suss to me. But teams do not conspire to lose a match. There's no way that wouldn't get out.A lot of people think this way. But where can you actually place those bets? With what bookies?


He is even worse with tim watson's hand up his arse moving his lips

Report therhino January 1, 2015 10:50 AM GMT
eh?
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 10:51 AM GMT
My theory is they would be playing the long game. No team in any sport is going to sit down, players and coaches and conspire to lose a match. But you might have two or three players in your pocket. One bowler who is due to bowl two bad overs. One batsmen to get out cheaply. What ever. Gives them spot fixing options and possible match odds options.
Report BJT January 1, 2015 10:53 AM GMT
You would only need 1 batsmen in your pocket.  Score slowly, do your best to not go out.  Wouldn't need to get them all right, but would make a fortune laying them while he was in, and on his wicket anyway.
Report kt22 January 1, 2015 10:53 AM GMT
Sorry was in response to andy maher comments
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 10:53 AM GMT

Jan 1, 2015 -- 10:53AM, BJT wrote:


You would only need 1 batsmen in your pocket.

Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 10:53 AM GMT
Marlon Samuels anyone.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 10:55 AM GMT

Jan 1, 2015 -- 10:52AM, King of Dubai wrote:


Betting on wides and no-balls is apparently big business in India, that was mentioned after the Pakistan scandal a few years back.


This is what I mean. How do these markets still exist after recent history. On what basis would anyone back a wide or a no ball? I can't see them being liquid markets, so let's say a bookie takes 500 bucks on a no ball from bowler A for the first delivery of a spell, and then some big boy comes in and puts 50 grand down. Red flags everywhere, even blind freddie can see what's happening.

No idea how it still exists anywhere.

Report BJT January 1, 2015 10:56 AM GMT
I mean if you are chasing 180, and you have a top batsmen able to use up 35-40 balls, and even score a run a ball, you would make a killing, unless the other guy was going off of course, at which point old mate would either run him out, not give him strike, or go out himself to get the jump in odds.
Report Whisperingdeath January 1, 2015 10:57 AM GMT
Blake84

Marlon Samuels anyone.


ooh that is a painful memory etched in RED!
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 10:58 AM GMT
Was that the last game before they cancelled the tour or was their one more and he hit 100.
Report SecondComing January 1, 2015 11:03 AM GMT
pretty bad effort by these 2, both noted batsmen seem happy to take singles in the last 5 overs
Report Whisperingdeath January 1, 2015 11:03 AM GMT
can't remember. The memories are too painfulLaugh. It's just I was brought up on the idea of fair play and couldn't imagine somebody taking a dive. I was just watching in astonishment as ball after ball went dot dot dot I was like a rabbit in the headlights thinking he is getting his eye in and going to make his move soon dot dot dot!
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 11:07 AM GMT
I try to factor it in to my betting but obviously it's unpredictable. Here in aus you can't just trade or play the odds properly, you have to try and read the play and trade medium/long term. It's tough.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 11:08 AM GMT
not talking about the license, i'm talking about their bottom line.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 11:09 AM GMT
how do you factor spot fixing in to your betting?
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 11:10 AM GMT
Suspect everything!
Report Canaletto . January 1, 2015 11:11 AM GMT
As I said. Make a game of it lads but make sure the big names win this match.
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 11:12 AM GMT
For example I was on Miami in an NBA match and watched Lebron go to the line and miss 3 ft's in a row and turn it over twice in about 2 minutes. Red flag for me.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 11:14 AM GMT
Accusing LeBron of spot fixing... you've lost me now. Please.
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 11:14 AM GMT
Not saying he's trying to lose, it's point shaving which can lead to losing.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 11:15 AM GMT

Jan 1, 2015 -- 11:11AM, King of Dubai wrote:


Their bottom line is increased if they know what will happen and can adjust odds accordingly. They can get away with it because they're unlicensed, as I said.


Don't think we're on the same wave length. The example I gave above was of a non liquid market that suddenly has massive money come in. Impossible for the bookie to balance his book and he would be looking at a massive liability. Don't see how it's in his interests.

Report therhino January 1, 2015 11:19 AM GMT

Jan 1, 2015 -- 11:14AM, Blake84 wrote:


Not saying he's trying to lose, it's point shaving which can lead to losing.


Please! Lebron is a business in the hundreds of millions. Why would he risk that for another million to shave points? If he turned it over a few times and missed some free throws it's because his head ain't in the game. Certainly not shaving points. People think the bookies are all powerful and can get to anyone. Rubbish.

Report banana33 January 1, 2015 11:19 AM GMT
aussies starting 2015 with a huge fix... :/
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 11:21 AM GMT
Fair enough and obviously I could be wrong. But i generally take a cautious approach and when I see things I don't like, also effort or head space wise as you say I pull my money out.
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 11:23 AM GMT
As much as all these guys make though is it ever enough. I know when I'm on a big roll with betting I just want more. Also blackmail, threats etc.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 11:25 AM GMT
The way I see it, if you just bet on top level sports, racing aside, you are fairly safe your bet is honest. If not, it may actually work out in your interests cos you could be on the right side of the fix. Nothing worth worrying about either way.
Report Whisperingdeath January 1, 2015 11:26 AM GMT
agree Rhino,

I think people read too much into it. If you are not over exposed you can't get hurt too much. It's also a bit swings and roundambouts that might actually work in your favour. I am sure we have all won on hails Mary's in the IPL!  Tennis is another matter though!
Report therhino January 1, 2015 11:27 AM GMT
Have said it before and been attacked by half wits on here, but if you want absolute honesty, golf is THE sport to bet on. If you really care that is.
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 11:28 AM GMT
Are you in Australia Rhino?
Report therhino January 1, 2015 11:29 AM GMT
yeah mate, Melbs
Report Blake84 January 1, 2015 11:29 AM GMT
Me too Grin Golf like NFL can definitely work as you have time to make the phone call.
Report therhino January 1, 2015 11:32 AM GMT
Yep. Great thing that, time between shots and most PGA Tour events finish in the early hours on a Monday for us, so doesn't conflict against a whole heap of other local events. If you experience delays it's generally during massive local events, BBL, Oz Open tennis etc.

Golf rules for betting Love
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