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Biscar Two from a mile back
13 Jun 13 21:01
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Looks a washout, anyone see any other outcome?
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Report mcfc1981 June 14, 2013 7:46 PM BST
thought u couldn't have a tie once it went to d/l
Report Only-the-Brave June 14, 2013 7:46 PM BST
Tied game, sa go through it seems.
Report Rider June 14, 2013 7:46 PM BST
Yes tie 1.3
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 7:46 PM BST
fix conspiracy theorists where are you?

as soon as it is a tie the umpires come off!

Must be a fix!
Report Rhino-2k8 June 14, 2013 7:47 PM BST
Tied game, SA qualify on Run Rate
Report cardshark June 14, 2013 7:47 PM BST
Umps are confused
Report peckerdunne June 14, 2013 7:47 PM BST
WINDIES....6/1 7/1 8/1  OUTRIGHT
Report jajabink June 14, 2013 7:47 PM BST
you cant have a tie SA will go thru better run arte
Report Steam June 14, 2013 7:47 PM BST
Pollard you ass..
Report lastchance June 14, 2013 7:47 PM BST
they will be getting a ruling
r e finishing time
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 7:48 PM BST
It's like the episode of Porridge when the fix went in and Godber took a dive.  Fletcher was the only one in the whole prison to bet on the draw!
Report Only-the-Brave June 14, 2013 7:48 PM BST
windies deserve to go out for being so stupid tbh.  Samuels first, and the pollard.  Fair enough that it was those 2 that got them to a winning position, but you can't just throw it away in the way that they both did.
Report roy-oi June 14, 2013 7:48 PM BST
Could the game be a D/L tie?

Which then means SA would go through anyway, but the actual match result is a tie?
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? June 14, 2013 7:48 PM BST
and how would Betfair settle the market with a tie? They've had confusion with this before.
Report peckerdunne June 14, 2013 7:48 PM BST
whispering....i called it way back....ALWAYS going to be CONTROVERSY....i felt..
Report Rider June 14, 2013 7:48 PM BST
TIE 1.01
Report RMB © June 14, 2013 7:48 PM BST
SA price of 1.3 is nonsense then if it's tied surely?
Report Steam June 14, 2013 7:49 PM BST
I think they are over cut off time..no result..It should be a tie
Report Only-the-Brave June 14, 2013 7:49 PM BST
match odds void, tie market settled I assume SoA.
Report the big bossman June 14, 2013 7:49 PM BST
just my fecking luck put 2k on west indies 2 secs later hes out
Report DStyle June 14, 2013 7:50 PM BST
not really RMB. it's void if they've don't get back on
Report Rider June 14, 2013 7:50 PM BST
they are not coming out again
Report peckerdunne June 14, 2013 7:50 PM BST
i want my GRRRREEEEENNNNNN.....FFS
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? June 14, 2013 7:50 PM BST
strangely coincidental that the umpires chose that moment to call them off. They were playing in heavier rain earlier.
Report mcfc1981 June 14, 2013 7:50 PM BST
i didnt think u could have a tie when d/l was involved either u got the target or u didn't
Report GRANTCKING June 14, 2013 7:50 PM BST
dear god pollard what an epic mug
Report RMB © June 14, 2013 7:51 PM BST
But if they come out isn't it a total lottery?
Report cardshark June 14, 2013 7:51 PM BST
Just needed a little single
Report Darlo Bantam June 14, 2013 7:51 PM BST

Jun 14, 2013 -- 7:50PM, mcfc1981 wrote:


i didnt think u could have a tie when d/l was involved either u got the target or u didn't


I've always thought this too. Obviously not. Though I did think you could theoretically have half runs so I'm even confusing myself.

Report peckerdunne June 14, 2013 7:51 PM BST
GOD .... IMAGINE IF YOU DUMBELLED THIS GREEN WITH THE cmm...ONE COULD BE PROPER FCUKED...
Report Only-the-Brave June 14, 2013 7:51 PM BST
They're not going to come back on now.  Tied game, match odds void.  Waste of time that one.
Report Sodiology June 14, 2013 7:51 PM BST
why are windies 4.1?

if they go back out surely they are big favourites? if they don't market is void?

what's to lose?
Report DStyle June 14, 2013 7:52 PM BST
sorry - i see your point. yes it is.

in fact you're right - it's insane.
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 7:52 PM BST
Pecker,

I am just glad I am not in this.

The one thing we can say is that the match is over.

SA I think have qualified for the final.

The DL is either a tie or draw or what?  So if you have bet on the win market you go home with your stake intact but nobody is a winner......except the tie wallah's and that is not confired as yet.  Is there a difference between a tie and a draw?

Cozier calling it a draw on DL
Report RMB © June 14, 2013 7:52 PM BST

Jun 14, 2013 -- 7:51PM, Sodiology wrote:


why are windies 4.1?if they go back out surely they are big favourites? if they don't market is void?what's to lose?


That was my thinking but to say I've not got a scooby about cricket is an understatement. My man on MSN still fires me bets 5 years on Laugh

Report mcfc1981 June 14, 2013 7:52 PM BST
what happened when eng played west indies and west indies miss calculated, im sure eng won and west indies would have won if they scored another run
Report Fangsy June 14, 2013 7:53 PM BST
There is no tie in D/L - it's win or lose.  SA will win this unless they come back on.  Who knows about the tie market though...
Report cardshark June 14, 2013 7:53 PM BST
I just needed either side to win
Report tambhoy5 June 14, 2013 7:53 PM BST
£17m traded and betfair aint getting no commission LaughLaughLaugh
Report DStyle June 14, 2013 7:54 PM BST
obviously not you fangsy
Report roy-oi June 14, 2013 7:54 PM BST
West Indies are 4.1 to hit 5 runs should they come out, if they do come back out.
Report RMB © June 14, 2013 7:54 PM BST
1.04 for a Tie so all but certain but SA were sub 1.3 whilst a Tie was 2.0. To me it felt like a possible retirement in a tennis match 5-5 in Set 01 TB but someone is smashing on one big server at 1.3 for Set 01.
Report Rider June 14, 2013 7:55 PM BST

Jun 14, 2013 -- 7:53PM, Fangsy wrote:


There is no tie in D/L - it's win or lose.

Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 7:55 PM BST
How rich and cocky would you have to be to lay the draw at 95?
Report Only-the-Brave June 14, 2013 7:55 PM BST
no tie on DL?  where is this nonsense coming from
Report RMB © June 14, 2013 7:55 PM BST
£31k at 1.4 on a Tie. Officials in cricket are a bit of a joke, always asymmetric information being dished out yet the markets run into their millions, it's feckin barmy, great for those honed in and know what they're doing though. Huge money about.
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 7:56 PM BST
They cannot come out again.  SA will definately not come out of their dressing room
Report mcfc1981 June 14, 2013 7:56 PM BST
no way id be backing 1.01, chances of scoreboard being wrong are less then 100/1 Laugh
Report GRANTCKING June 14, 2013 7:57 PM BST
MATCH ABANDONED
Report Rider June 14, 2013 7:57 PM BST
there was a tie on d/l a couple of years ago in an odi (bopara caught out on boundary last ball)
Report roy-oi June 14, 2013 7:57 PM BST
In a rain-affected match, the match is tied if the Duckworth-Lewis method indicates that the second team exactly meets but does not exceed the par score.

The match will be a tie as both sides have lost the same amount of wickets.
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 7:57 PM BST
draw or tie called!
Report peckerdunne June 14, 2013 7:57 PM BST
yes W..

can only see Saffers through now....A long day... and nothing....good green vapourised...

Just glad of CMM....

Outight peeps...hammered....backers of Windies.... layers of Saffers
Report Smith1 June 14, 2013 7:57 PM BST
THAI CrazyCrazyCrazy
Report the big bossman June 14, 2013 7:57 PM BST
tie does that mean cash back
Report roy-oi June 14, 2013 7:58 PM BST
ALL MATCH ODDS VOID.
Report book June 14, 2013 7:58 PM BST
all the people on here wasted a days trading.
Report roy-oi June 14, 2013 7:58 PM BST
In a rain-affected match, the match is tied if the Duckworth-Lewis method indicates that the second team exactly meets but does not exceed the par score.

The match will be a tie as both sides have lost the same amount of wickets.

ALL MATCH ODDS VOID.
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 7:58 PM BST
I wonder if there will be a stewards at Betfair.  This might go down the legal route.

I have a DL calculator downloaded but no idea how to work it!
Report Only-the-Brave June 14, 2013 7:59 PM BST
amazing how many people bet on a market without knowing the rules
Report maids June 14, 2013 8:00 PM BST
Lay (Bet Against)

Backer's odds

Backer's stake

Your liability









South Africa

1.356

£1,125.00

£399.99






West Indies

1.712

£890.97

£634.03
:( :(
Report peckerdunne June 14, 2013 8:00 PM BST
Its not good enough really...this will make the main news...thats if they think viewers could understand what the feck happened..
Report book June 14, 2013 8:00 PM BST
i thought with d/l they go back to earlier overs to see who was ahead.
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 8:00 PM BST
Smith if you had money on the THAI could you let us know when you get paid out please.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? June 14, 2013 8:01 PM BST
Tied match. All bets VOID!
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? June 14, 2013 8:01 PM BST
Excited
Report Darlo Bantam June 14, 2013 8:01 PM BST
I laid both sides of the tie at 1.01. Just in case.
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 8:02 PM BST
Dude's stop quoting Duckworth Lewis if you have not read it and have a clear understanding.  It is like saying you can't get a girl pregnant the first time FFS!
Report seddon61 June 14, 2013 8:02 PM BST
thought sa won on dl scrichapan
Report Darlo Bantam June 14, 2013 8:03 PM BST
Tie. Paid out.
Report mcfc1981 June 14, 2013 8:04 PM BST
so what would have happeneded if this was a semi final????
Report seddon61 June 14, 2013 8:04 PM BST
no tie on match odds market
Report stmichael June 14, 2013 8:04 PM BST
I don't think there is any such thing as a tie under DL. If you beat the par score you win, if you don't you lose.
Report seddon61 June 14, 2013 8:04 PM BST
thought sa won on wickets lost
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 8:05 PM BST
nice one!

It does help to know the rules.

I remember when Pakistan didn't come out in the test match.  It cost me just before I could back England for the win.
Report DStyle June 14, 2013 8:05 PM BST
so the match has been officially announced as a tie, the tie market settled as yes, and yet people are claiming D/L can't produce a tie?

is that good fishing or phenomenal stupidity....
Report Rider June 14, 2013 8:06 PM BST
http://blog.thecricketer.com/?p=31220

you can tie under D/L
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 8:06 PM BST
seddon!

Please stop being a mong!

They both lost 6 wickets!

FFS!

Thoughts are dangerous!
Report stmichael June 14, 2013 8:06 PM BST
Neither. That was my understanding of DL until a few seconds ago.
Report DStyle June 14, 2013 8:07 PM BST
steaks rephunded
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 8:08 PM BST
steaks?

I have lamb tonight!

What a roller coaster though.
Report RMB © June 14, 2013 8:09 PM BST
So whilst Tie was hovering around 2.0, people where smashing SA at 1.3 on the basis they could have come back out for a one over shootout. Deary me. Could have been spectacular, never won 5 figures on cricket before.
Report nigelpm1 June 14, 2013 8:10 PM BST

Jun 14, 2013 -- 8:09PM, RMB © wrote:


So whilst Tie was hovering around 2.0, people where smashing SA at 1.3 on the basis they could have come back out for a one over shootout. Deary me. Could have been spectacular, never won 5 figures on cricket before.


Yeah, I kept laying SA for all I had at that point

Report uey June 14, 2013 8:16 PM BST
so why are bets void in a tie?
Report uey June 14, 2013 8:17 PM BST
shouldnt it all be halved?
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2013 8:18 PM BST
uey

no winner means no loser.  It's like quits
Report seddon61 June 14, 2013 8:18 PM BST
yey  because theres no tie price on the match odds
Report roy-oi June 14, 2013 8:27 PM BST
Should be a dead heat the match odds as there was no tie option in the market.
Report seddon61 June 14, 2013 8:29 PM BST
it is  a dead heat money back
Report The Timeform June 14, 2013 8:47 PM BST
Dead heat doesn't equal void bets...
Report Biscar Two from a mile back June 14, 2013 9:10 PM BST
It was changed to suit the indians wasn't it?

In India they void bets if a tie and all the indian money coming into the site wanted the same rules.
Report letsalldance June 14, 2013 9:11 PM BST
I had backed West Indies on the outright, what a silly way to go out. Surely the players should have been aware of the D/L situation and the cloudy skies.
Report nicky27 June 14, 2013 11:27 PM BST
what a crazy match , had everything ...huge CMM fluctuations, crazy confusion about the D/L Tie , really helps to not only know the cricket laws in these situations , but also the market rules , of course a D/L chase can be tied ,thats what the 'D/L Par Score' is all about,  there seemed to be great confusion about this , lots of opportunities to literally take free money , once the umps took them off they simply could not have come back on , because at that point where they were taken off we were already past the cut off time , I love matches like this for trading , might be more opportunities like this with rain about over the next few days ...
Report peckerdunne June 15, 2013 9:52 AM BST
Nah, will never happen again Wink.
Report nigelpm1 June 15, 2013 9:53 AM BST

Jun 14, 2013 -- 11:27PM, nicky27 wrote:


what a crazy match , had everything ...huge CMM fluctuations, crazy confusion about the D/L Tie , really helps to not only know the cricket laws in these situations , but also the market rules , of course a D/L chase can be tied ,thats what the 'D/L Par Score' is all about,

Report nigelpm1 June 15, 2013 9:58 AM BST
The problem is that the rules are open to change at will from what I've seen.  i.e. they players shouldn't have really come back on at Headingley - that cost me!  Also, yesterday they were already playing past the cut-off time!  Who is to say if the showers had stopped quickly as earlier they wouldn't have come back on for 15 mins?

These rules are sensible to ensure they get a game in BUT they should be consistent as it makes a CMM = NO and test match draw FAR less likely.
Report peckerdunne June 15, 2013 10:08 AM BST
Yes they need a rain metre........one more over...one less....playing in the rain...then it is too much rain....it is left open to interpretation in the end...

A one over bowl....would have been fairer i think...yes i do understand the law...but still...people go to a game... pay good money...etc..
Report peckerdunne June 15, 2013 10:08 AM BST
bowl out
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? June 15, 2013 12:03 PM BST
Lay of 200 runs. They dont look like getting there anyway and it could well be interrupted by rain.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? June 15, 2013 12:10 PM BST
right on cue
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