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Match facts
Thursday, June 6, Cardiff
Start time 9.30am GMT
Big Picture
The last time India played South Africa in an ODI was in the 2011 World Cup, when India's top five were Virender Sehwag, Sachin Tendulkar, Gautam Gambhir, Yusuf Pathan and Yuvraj Singh. The bowling line-up consisted of Zaheer Khan, Ashish Nehra, Munaf Patel and Harbhajan Singh. None of those players, most of whom are vastly experienced, are in the squad for this tournament.
South Africa are also missing some of their legendary names, with Graeme Smith injured and Jacques Kallis skipping the tournament for personal reasons. Their fans might have felt reassured looking at the familiar bowling line-up, but Dale Steyn's side strain means he could miss the first game.
At least they can still rely on the calm guidance of Gary Kirsten, who has had a golden run in his two years as coach. He has already firmly established South Africa as the best Test side in the world, a position they flirted with for a couple of decades without really nailing it down. The next challenge for Kirsten, who will step down as South Africa coach later this month, is to end his country's painfully long hunt for an ICC trophy to go along with their triumph in the inaugural version of this tournament way back in 1998.
While South Africa have at least been able to focus entirely on the cricket, India haven't. For the past few weeks in India, cricket has dominated newspaper front pages and has been breathlessly reported on round-the-clock by television channels, but almost all of it has been about the corruption in the IPL, and the ensuing turmoil in the BCCI. Even as MS Dhoni was addressing the press in Cardiff ahead of the opening match of the Champions Trophy, the cricket news back in India was about the Delhi Police questioning the owners of Rajasthan Royals in connection with the spot-fixing controversy.
Dhoni's already has a stellar CV as captain, but marshalling this new-look team under these distractions, especially in a short tournament like the Champions Trophy where even one defeat could mean elimination, will be among the biggest challenges of his career.
Form Guide
(most recent first)
India LWWWL
South Africa WWLWL
Thursday, June 6, Cardiff
Start time 9.30am GMT
Big Picture
The last time India played South Africa in an ODI was in the 2011 World Cup, when India's top five were Virender Sehwag, Sachin Tendulkar, Gautam Gambhir, Yusuf Pathan and Yuvraj Singh. The bowling line-up consisted of Zaheer Khan, Ashish Nehra, Munaf Patel and Harbhajan Singh. None of those players, most of whom are vastly experienced, are in the squad for this tournament.
South Africa are also missing some of their legendary names, with Graeme Smith injured and Jacques Kallis skipping the tournament for personal reasons. Their fans might have felt reassured looking at the familiar bowling line-up, but Dale Steyn's side strain means he could miss the first game.
At least they can still rely on the calm guidance of Gary Kirsten, who has had a golden run in his two years as coach. He has already firmly established South Africa as the best Test side in the world, a position they flirted with for a couple of decades without really nailing it down. The next challenge for Kirsten, who will step down as South Africa coach later this month, is to end his country's painfully long hunt for an ICC trophy to go along with their triumph in the inaugural version of this tournament way back in 1998.
While South Africa have at least been able to focus entirely on the cricket, India haven't. For the past few weeks in India, cricket has dominated newspaper front pages and has been breathlessly reported on round-the-clock by television channels, but almost all of it has been about the corruption in the IPL, and the ensuing turmoil in the BCCI. Even as MS Dhoni was addressing the press in Cardiff ahead of the opening match of the Champions Trophy, the cricket news back in India was about the Delhi Police questioning the owners of Rajasthan Royals in connection with the spot-fixing controversy.
Dhoni's already has a stellar CV as captain, but marshalling this new-look team under these distractions, especially in a short tournament like the Champions Trophy where even one defeat could mean elimination, will be among the biggest challenges of his career.
Form Guide
(most recent first)
India LWWWL
South Africa WWLWL
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punters who get too confident,normally get burnt...India need a wicket soon tho
De Villiers is captain in my fantasy team, get double points for him 
Yeah but cant really afford to slow it down a lot.
Steam • June 6, 2013 4:25 PM BST
Indian backers...save what you can while you can
Steam • June 6, 2013 4:30 PM BST
Finally.!!!
Indian backers...save what you can while you can
Steam • June 6, 2013 4:30 PM BST
Finally.!!!
Problem with needing more than a run a ball is that the run rate will grow exponentially with dot balls.
Not really an overly significant wicket. SA still well in control
Not out of reach now ...India need to keep getting wickets...Duminy, Du Plesis, Miller and set ABD..
No not game over! These two are great between the wicket very quick and with ABDV there they are always in with a chance. Truely great One day player
Still a long way to go but I don't think they will get to the total.
Smart batting..not giving Ashwin any chance..still mug overs from pacers to come..SA can chase over 8s in last 10 with mug overs left...
With Indian pace bowlers and AB and Miller in hut..India would need over 100 in last 10..so India can only give about 61 in the next 11 overs which also has 5 power play overs
I dont think another wicket here also now would make a difference unless its ABD
MS...needs to have a little dabble himself....SA managing well now...
market surprisingly not moved much there. It's a De Villiers market it seems - if/when he goes there'll be carnage.
Neah long batting line up OTB..Miller still left..I think he is bigger threat in these conditions.
The spinners have got the rr down to 5.87 before they got on it was well over 8.
So India if now manages to give about 50 in next 8 then they might feel safe..but still Miller is the key here
Too slow. They'll want nearly 10 an over soon.
oh PJ!
The power was in the total of India! Shame as would liked to have had a better look at Miller.
The power was in the total of India! Shame as would liked to have had a better look at Miller.
Everyone ignored the fact that this was a bigger total than has ever been chased here.
India scored 300 from 50 for 5...aint over..India would win but may be these two would give a scare..thats all I would love
runs wise, 120 off 90 is more than doable. 6 wickets down though, and morne injured?
15 over left, ashwin jadeja have a combined 5 overs to bowl. that leaves 10 overs of part time raina and the expensive seamers, think sa fall short.
India should win..Saffers wont be able to score them..Du plesis is not in that brilliant form now
They should bowl Rohit Sharma instead of the crappy pace bowlers.
kleinveldt is useful with the bat and usually a quick scorer. Needs these 2 to bring them close though. maybe to within 50.
120 off 90 is doable but unlikely here.
I'd suggest the pressure is on and no room for error. If Miller was still here I would be worried.
The ball might start reversing. One more run out might do for them too
I'd suggest the pressure is on and no room for error. If Miller was still here I would be worried.
The ball might start reversing. One more run out might do for them too
du plessis should have faced ashwin in the nets before for csk.
Ashwin done now..so now seamers and 5 from Jadeja..I wonder Dhoni would have the courage to get Jadeja on now in PP..
ashwin bowled out. Jadeja has 5. The rest to be bowled by india's mug seamers/part time spinners. If SA bat the overs they win.
He has to take the gamble to get Jadeja on to bowl..can trust his seamers..
If it was me I'd bowl Rohit Sharma for a couple of overs or else they could still lose.
Neither of these sides good enough to win the tournament on what we've seen today.
could have backed and layed India 3 times today!
Must remember to lay back when it's free rather than pride it out for picking the winner, stupid.
Still not over but it looks like an albatross
Must remember to lay back when it's free rather than pride it out for picking the winner, stupid.
Still not over but it looks like an albatross
Dont get SA's approach..they dont need to go for broke now..run a ball till 45 overs would have been enough..poor batting from Du Plesis..couldnt get my trade
Yeah...was able to do that two times..third time was a late...done it again..at 17s now..lets see if i get a chance now..willing to take less profit on India..
so who do you fancy then...Australia, England OR NZ? Bearing in mind India already wapped SL
Maybe you fancy Pakistan or Windies!
Either side could yet lift the Trophy or any of the other six. It is a wide open competition in view
Maybe you fancy Pakistan or Windies!
Either side could yet lift the Trophy or any of the other six. It is a wide open competition in view
No outstanding teams, Yadav and Sharma just too expensive in the bowling department or else I would have India to be strong favs.
Run a ball brings them within 38 runs of the total...shouldnt try to hit them out of the park..
each to their own. India's so called pace attack shown here why they can't be trusted imo. The batting isn't going to get 330 every game!
Shame these people have not even tried to bat out 50..its just 40 overs now...stupid batting
If you look at the outright betting the fav is 4.7 and the outsider is 11.5 which does suggest it's wide open.
Why don't they make Tsotsobe practice his batting - he is the worst batsman I have ever seen and that includes all the under 11 teams I used to coach.
The collapse caused by a string of idiotic decisions - Peterson's run out , Du Plessis shaking up de Villiers with that other almost run out, de villiers playing a non-sensical shot and then Du Pleassis running out the brilliant Miller.
Staggering stupidity.
Staggering stupidity.
Scoreboard pressure. Huge total to chase down and they couldn't keep the run rate going when Ashwin and Jadeja were on.
The RRR was in control at all times. Throwing away wickets needlessly is what ultimately cost them.
It dropped to 5.8. That's not in control. The two run outs could well have been avoided though.
that's the rr. The required run rate was always under 7.5 until very late.
SA should have batted out the spinners just milked them for singles and then had a go at the end. Easier said than done.
Jadeja's economy rate is 3.00 per over that's outstanding when so many others have gone for at least 8 an over. Gone up a bit with that boundary.
just checked, and after 30 overs the rrr was only 7.6. 7 wickets in hand with 5 pp overs to come. That's a great position to be in. Made a real mess of it from there.
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