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LendUsAFiver
03 Jan 13 20:30
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After backing Pakistan in the last 2 ODI's I am struggling to see reason behind the India favouritism in the market. Am I missing something? Should money really be this easy?
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Report Blake84 January 6, 2013 1:59 PM GMT
I have no money or allegiance in this. Just got home from the BBL then pub here in aus. Fix anyone. Please ICC, grow a pair. I love this sport.
Report kingmax January 6, 2013 1:59 PM GMT
does ifran know they have to score runs?
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:00 PM GMT
why hafeez never crossed Crazy
Report betfairchat January 6, 2013 2:00 PM GMT
icc have to look at this
Report mickstick January 6, 2013 2:00 PM GMT
Every single Gypsy in the world is descended from these two nations. Think about it, says it all.
Report Maz_- January 6, 2013 2:01 PM GMT
Hafeez has fixed this big time lol. Didnt cross, caused a run out. Hasnt played well at all and i bet he gets out as well to fnish this off.
Report MadDogs January 6, 2013 2:01 PM GMT
nigelpm1 06 Jan 13 13:57 Joined: 10 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 3,393 | Blogger: nigelpm1's blog
NEVER bet on Pakistan - a simple yet worthwhile note




and yet if u bet on them in every game this series youd be in a nice profit, a lot of morons on this forum today i see
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:01 PM GMT
shut the fook up you racist ****
Report YOMOMMA January 6, 2013 2:01 PM GMT
it's not a fix u need to do ur research the delhi ground is known for low scores + it's harder to bat during the 2nd innings on it.
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:02 PM GMT
county cricket has a lot of fixing you idiot
Report Kevbetting superstar January 6, 2013 2:02 PM GMT
Ban Pakistan forever.
Report YOMOMMA January 6, 2013 2:02 PM GMT
anyway anyone who bets on pakistan especially in a dead rubber match is looking for trouble.
Report kingmax January 6, 2013 2:03 PM GMT
half this forum is full of ****...
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:04 PM GMT
here we go
Report BJT January 6, 2013 2:04 PM GMT
rotflmfao
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:04 PM GMT
pakistan where 11/1 3 minutes ago Laugh
Report kingmax January 6, 2013 2:04 PM GMT
free hit?
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:05 PM GMT
why bowl sharma Laugh
Report ladofsteel January 6, 2013 2:05 PM GMT
both trying to lose
Report kingmax January 6, 2013 2:05 PM GMT
LaughLaugh
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:05 PM GMT
sharma you dickhead
Report s6188 January 6, 2013 2:05 PM GMT
DONE
Report soba January 6, 2013 2:05 PM GMT
Benny Hill cricket Laugh
Report kingmax January 6, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
couldnt make it up.. so a no ball now wins the game
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
omg
Report ladofsteel January 6, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
but Pakistan are better at losing deliberately
Report BJT January 6, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
No free hit for height.  lol.  Chaos game.
Apart from that, no comment about what is on everybodies mind.  lol
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
wwf has got nothing on this
Report reaper111222 January 6, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
holy ****
Report ladofsteel January 6, 2013 2:07 PM GMT
wwf is more realistic
Report peckerdunne January 6, 2013 2:07 PM GMT
MischiefMischiefMischief
Report kingmax January 6, 2013 2:08 PM GMT
its wwe you ****
Report MadDogs January 6, 2013 2:08 PM GMT
wat was the price on pak b4 the wicket?
Report soba January 6, 2013 2:08 PM GMT
Half time talk, take your time boy's we've got plenty of time Laugh
Report peckerdunne January 6, 2013 2:09 PM GMT
1.57Happy
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:09 PM GMT
from pakistan cruising on 113-3 to 157 all out
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? January 6, 2013 2:10 PM GMT
Think it was fixed? enquiries@icc-cricket.com
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:10 PM GMT
Fall of wickets 1-3 (Kamran Akmal, 2.1 ov), 2-14 (Younis Khan, 6.5 ov), 3-61 (Nasir Jamshed, 20.3 ov), 4-113 (Misbah-ul-Haq, 34.1 ov), 5-119 (Shoaib Malik, 36.3 ov), 6-125 (Umar Akmal, 39.2 ov), 7-144 (Umar Gul, 46.2 ov), 8-145 (Saeed Ajmal, 47.2 ov), 9-145 (Junaid Khan, 47.3 ov), 10-157 (Mohammad Hafeez, 48.5 ov)
Report joss January 6, 2013 2:10 PM GMT
read up on the hawkins book. If the world cup semi is not right what chance a game of relevant value here is going to matter.
Report randybushpig January 6, 2013 2:11 PM GMT
thats probably my last ever bet...back pakis at 1.19, 1k.....im livid....
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 2:14 PM GMT
Unfortunately the players look at their match fee and then look at what they are being offered and it is a simple decision from there.
Report housefull January 6, 2013 2:15 PM GMT

Jan 6, 2013 -- 5:30AM, housefull wrote:


pakistani player is match fixer they do any thing


kkk

Report Srichaphan or Ancic? January 6, 2013 2:15 PM GMT
Email the ICC, posting on here isnt going to get you anywhere, and it will just continue.
Report Blake84 January 6, 2013 2:16 PM GMT
That was some highly skillful fixing to drag it on for 48.5 overs. They really milked it. Fair play, that was well done.
Report Injera January 6, 2013 2:19 PM GMT
It was not fixed. FFS people, read the market and the cricket.
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:20 PM GMT
surely England are the bet to win the odi series
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? January 6, 2013 2:20 PM GMT
No, of course it wasn't Injera, of course.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? January 6, 2013 2:21 PM GMT
did you not see the comical run out?
Report Esox January 6, 2013 2:21 PM GMT
I really enjoyed that game.
The wicket was difficult for both teams.
Why do people cry fix when they lose?
Some of you definitely talk **** through your pockets.
If you dont like it dont bet. Simple.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? January 6, 2013 2:21 PM GMT
or fast scoring Hafeez unable to score and not even seeming to want to score?
Report MadDogs January 6, 2013 2:22 PM GMT
so how much did u win S&A?
Report mickstick January 6, 2013 2:22 PM GMT
Bookmakers who earn money in these fixed games are not on Betfair. The bookmaking industry in the Indian sub continent is huge. Spot betting gets some a fortune.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? January 6, 2013 2:23 PM GMT
even the devils advocates on here must feel stupid trying to put up the innocence argument on this match.
Report Blake84 January 6, 2013 2:23 PM GMT
I'm sure the ICC got their taste.
Report Footiefan111 January 6, 2013 2:24 PM GMT
what about umur akmal running down the wicket to get himself out Laugh
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 2:25 PM GMT
I didn't bet on the game, we know that games have been fixed in the past, no doubt there were the same muppets making excuses for those games at the time as well. I'm more concerned about how these idiots have basically killed any belief in the game itself.
Report mickstick January 6, 2013 2:25 PM GMT
Ask yourself, have Pakistan previous for fixing matches? Have or are some of their International players in jail for match fixing?

Cricket has a bad reputation for fiddling. Pakistan are the main culprits.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? January 6, 2013 2:26 PM GMT
you can see when a team is trying to win and when they are unable to because of the wicket. Pakistan were not even bothered, and in a couple of instances actually seemed to be chucking their wickets away on purpose.
Report nigelpm1 January 6, 2013 2:27 PM GMT
These matches are often fixed.  Some very nieve people on this forum today.
Report Injera January 6, 2013 2:27 PM GMT
Tail enders can't run between the wickets. Nothing new there.

Hafeez's scoring rate was comparable to most batsmen in that match. He ran out of partners but knew when to go hard at the end.

I've seen several fixes but that wan't one. Saeed showed how much the ball was gripping when he bowled. It was very cold adding to the juice in the pitch.
Report Injera January 6, 2013 2:30 PM GMT
At what point Nigel, was that game thrown by Pakistan?

Before Saeed took 5 or after?

Before Pakistan were 100-3 or after?

They threw away a winning position in a low scoring match. Sure they have 'history' but I'm willing to judge matches on a game by game basis NOT by which teams are playing.
Report MadDogs January 6, 2013 2:31 PM GMT
so you fix screamers should be counting your stacks not whining like a bunch of pu$$ies on here
Report Blake84 January 6, 2013 2:32 PM GMT
That was like shasrti and Misbah were reading a script. I had no money on this but I'm really sad for my favorite sport.
Report Esox January 6, 2013 2:33 PM GMT
Fair point S or A wish I had seen it.
Just traded using cricinfo.
Surely all sports where money involed have a dark side.
Horse racing, Basketball a couple of blatent examples.
If you think it's fixed why not just cash in.
Agree with you MadDogs.
Report nigelpm1 January 6, 2013 2:33 PM GMT

Jan 6, 2013 -- 8:30AM, Injera wrote:


At what point Nigel, was that game thrown by Pakistan?Before Saeed took 5 or after?Before Pakistan were 100-3 or after?They threw away a winning position in a low scoring match. Sure they have 'history' but I'm willing to judge matches on a game by game basis NOT by which teams are playing.


Dead rubber + huge money at stake = great opportunity to fix.  I'm not saying this one was but it was a great opportunity.

Report Blake84 January 6, 2013 2:35 PM GMT
True that mad dogs. When Pakistan rapped up the series in game 2 I said game 3 will be match fixing heaven but unfortunately didn't bet.
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 2:35 PM GMT
Well MadDogs as 95% of people on here lose long term I would guess most of them bet for interest in the game. I've lost a great deal of interest in the game because of the wnkers who now take part, I can't believe in this shiite any more.
Report Injera January 6, 2013 2:38 PM GMT
Christy - why don't you bet on the market and not on the game? If you watch the odds you can make money no matter whether a game is fixed (in your opinion) or not.
Report DStyle January 6, 2013 2:38 PM GMT
i'm with injera here. there was also nothing in the prices that indicated a fix.

pakistan's previous means that everyone thinks when this sort of thing happens it must be a fix; but it happens to other teams sometimes and we never get the same response.

surely all the people claiming fix have to concede that events like this do happen in cricket without anything untoward going on. therefore they cannot be certain that pakistan are guilty.
Report nigelpm1 January 6, 2013 2:38 PM GMT

Jan 6, 2013 -- 8:31AM, MadDogs wrote:


so you fix screamers should be counting your stacks not whining like a bunch of pu$$ies on here


Just because it's fixed doesn't mean you know which way or how it will be fixed.

Report Blake84 January 6, 2013 2:40 PM GMT
I can't say I feel sorry for anyone who backed Pakistan at short odds. We are experienced gamblers aren't we.
Report nigelpm1 January 6, 2013 2:40 PM GMT

Jan 6, 2013 -- 8:38AM, DStyle wrote:


i'm with injera here. there was also nothing in the prices that indicated a fix.pakistan's previous means that everyone thinks when this sort of thing happens it must be a fix; but it happens to other teams sometimes and we never get the same response.surely all the people claiming fix have to concede that events like this do happen in cricket without anything untoward going on. therefore they cannot be certain that pakistan are guilty.


Agreed.  Market is so liquid - prices wouldn't have been obvious like they are in county cricket.

Report DStyle January 6, 2013 2:40 PM GMT
your last two posts aren't consistent nigel.
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 2:41 PM GMT
Nothing would induce me to be on cricket now Injera
Report nigelpm1 January 6, 2013 2:41 PM GMT

Jan 6, 2013 -- 8:40AM, DStyle wrote:


your last two posts aren't consistent nigel.


In what way?

Report DStyle January 6, 2013 2:42 PM GMT
Dead rubber + huge money at stake = great opportunity to fix.

Just because it's fixed doesn't mean you know which way or how it will be fixed.
Report Injera January 6, 2013 2:44 PM GMT
Fair enough CC.

Please don't think cricket is inherently corrupt. I believe there is spot fixing at times but rare. Match fixing is very rare imo.
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 2:45 PM GMT
I don't see any contradiction there.
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 2:45 PM GMT
dstyle
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 2:46 PM GMT
Well Injera, normally as a neutral after a game like that you have been on the edge of your seat thinking what a great comeback, classic game, but you don't and there is only one reason for that.
Report DStyle January 6, 2013 2:49 PM GMT
which is that your opinion of pakistan's integrity is massively prejudiced.
Report MadDogs January 6, 2013 2:53 PM GMT
Captain Christy 06 Jan 13 14:35 Joined: 08 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 5,542 | Blogger: Captain Christy's blog
Well MadDogs as 95% of people on here lose long term I would guess most of them bet for interest in the game. I've lost a great deal of interest in the game because of the wnkers who now take part, I can't believe in this shiite any more.



why would u lose interest in the game if many games such as this one is so blatantly fixed? why arent you making money?
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 2:55 PM GMT
I don't bet on the game.
Report MadDogs January 6, 2013 2:58 PM GMT
why not? its free money essentially to u isnt it?
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 2:58 PM GMT
I also know racing is fixed, doesn't mean I know the result any more than you know the cricket result
Report Injera January 6, 2013 3:03 PM GMT
So at which point CC was that game fixed in India's favour?

Pakistan dominated that game until the last 12 overs. Did they throw it from that moment on?

The cry of 'fix' whenever there's a clatter of wickets is very dangerous. It cheapens the investigation into clear and obvious fixes.
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 3:08 PM GMT
Common-sense tells me the game was fixed, if you really believe this was straight then it would have to be one of the greatest games ever won by India, give us a break.
Report Injera January 6, 2013 3:11 PM GMT
7 for 45 is hardly stuff of dreams. Happens very often.
Report Captain Christy January 6, 2013 3:12 PM GMT
yes, too often
Report MadDogs January 6, 2013 3:13 PM GMT
how could that be constituted as the greatest game ever when it was a dead rubber so the pak players wouldnt have been as motivated and the fact that the batting line up is very average? wasnt an easy wicket to bat on and india wanted it more, end of, i had 160 on pak last night at 2.06 and ended up losing just 15pound but i dont think it was a fix, most claiming it is are pocket talking or seemingly miserable bitter grumpy old men
Report rob_dylan January 6, 2013 3:21 PM GMT
rob_dylan 06 Jan 13 11:43 Joined: 26 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 5,084 | Blogger: rob_dylan's blog
Ive put up a lay of 1.01 and of 1.02 and just gonna leave it, i put nothing past these paks
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Well I called it right, just a shame I was too greedy, they only ever touched 1.03.  Damn.
Report nigelpm1 January 6, 2013 3:28 PM GMT

Jan 6, 2013 -- 8:42AM, DStyle wrote:


Dead rubber + huge money at stake = great opportunity to fix. Just because it's fixed doesn't mean you know which way or how it will be fixed.


how's that a contradiction?

Report rob_dylan January 6, 2013 3:29 PM GMT
Well as I doubt that Indians are fixers, but Pak are.  The fix can only go one way.... Against Pak.
Report Injera January 6, 2013 3:36 PM GMT
Rob - I'll try asking you.

At what point did Pakistan decide to throw that match?
Report rob_dylan January 6, 2013 3:47 PM GMT
Idont know i dont even know if it was a fix or just a collapse.  But either way there was big potential for pak to make a pigs ear of that chase, just gutted it didnt make 1.02
Report nicky27 January 6, 2013 5:33 PM GMT
fix Angry

only kidding Grin the Kotla is a low scoring place sometimes ...
if you think a match is fixed , quit harping ,and bet accordingly,
Pakistan were never gonna bust a gut to win this match having already won the series , dead rubbers and rain affected matches can be the most profitable to bet on
Report randybushpig January 6, 2013 5:35 PM GMT
im pretty bitter about that.. i baked the pakis at 1.19 after they skittled india in 42 overs.....i dont think it was fixed...however, i can see why people are really pi*sed off.. no professional team should lose from that position... and there were some v suspicious looking run outs...
Report nicky27 January 6, 2013 5:37 PM GMT
yeah randy , i saw ur post , gotta hurt to lose a bag of sand , but u should know better really if u follow cricket a little bit ...I remember pakistan blew a 1.12 winning position in a test match against australia a couple of years back with so many dropped catches , looked well suss
Report nicky27 January 6, 2013 5:41 PM GMT
here it was ...second test at SCG 2010

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausvpak09/engine/match/406200.html

hussey and SIDDLE put on 123 for the ninth wicket and hussey was dropped like 8 times or something , then Pakistan were all out for 139 chasing 175 for victory !!
Report nicky27 January 6, 2013 5:41 PM GMT
1.12 busted , I remember it well cos I layed the 1.12 !!
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