India vs England MATCH THREAD

i told u mugs india couldn't possibly win and just look they CANNOT GET A WICKET pmsl
india 4 0 lay coining it in 1st test . i told u .
india free money lay here . i told u .
india CANNOT WIN

whoever went in hard on mugdia is sweatinh right now

pmsl india are useless
TOOTHLESS BOWLING

mugionaire morse whats ur nap

I backed them big at 1.10, red out at 1.34, well well, easy come easy go.

traderpj how have i got your money did you back england mate?

so I can oppose!

Big day ahead - some interesting Davis Cup matches on (at least one), then NFL all the way to 4.30am, and potentially an intriguing last day here.

Need to go out shortly, not sure how soon I can back - but the real issue is when to sleep, up at 5am this morning - something will have to give.

india lay is FREE MONEY here
prior and cook will bat all day tomorrow
easy money laying india , no risk free money

barney v MVG is highlight of the day wallflower

if they both win semis

Oh sh8T, Morse alert - couple of wickets coming now....maybe I've been a premature about sleep dilemma

when do england declare?

relax wallflower son , england won't lose a wicket
india are too poor to take one
i am coining it in here laying them for free money

cook for sports personality of the year when he saves this test

looks like india have given up .

@GRANTCKING - That as well, bit cautious normally about darts, doesn't suit my approach (been burnt lots of times in the past, so settle for very very small profits) - but the Grand Slam (and Worlds) suit me a lot better - longer format.

I've just got to get back soon as possible (partner's family thing), feign sickness

ridiculous, I'm a grown man of 48 years of age - trying to mitch off social obligations

hahaha nothing better than a day full of good sport

Need to go - Good luck all (even Morse, hope its a draw he'll need it to try and re-stock the ten or twenty banks he has blown)- hope to see you on the cricket - tennis - footie - darts - NFL forums over next 24 hours

there's no doubt india won't win this test wallflower son .

bat out 50 overs on day 5 should do it

I.M.O If England get another Hundred and they should with this pair set and the batting still to come, then this game is over.

We could very well see FLIP FLOP in this match now!

india will hit off 110 in less than two hours

The one thing not to underestimate now is how dog-tired the Indian bowlers must be. They will not roll over England in session one as the market fears.

Adge.

Don't be silly, this is a test match and not a 20/20.

110 in 30 overs , come on

Adge.

Bowlers can bowl wides, put everyman on the boundry if they want.

This game all hindges on the first hour tomorrow, if Cook and Prior are still there, then its all over as a game.

I think England might take two sessions to get another hundred.

And don't forget only another 540 balls in this match.

Cook and Prior have already faced 530 between them.

India 1.57 is about as ridiculous a price as I have EVER seen in ANY sports betting in my entire life. Anyone who does not lump on India here should be permanently banned from betting.

Just think about it -- England will need to bat a MINIMUM of 55 overs on a 5th day Indian wicket with just 5 wickets in hand to have even the slightest of chances of saving the match. That's NOT a 2.75 shot. India should be 1.16 MAX.

Queenie you should have got out earlier rampin not gonna help you now

@trevortricky I'm not ramping. I LUMPED on India at 1.38 last night (check out my post in this thread), and have taken a big green. But once again a decent partnership from England, and the mug market has overreacted. But this is the mother of all overreactions. Anyone who know a fck about cricket knows that a team 5 down going into day 5 with scores virtually level is not a 2.75 shot to save the test.

lol @ Trevor

This game should be evens a draw and India win not 1.16 no way :)

India 1.57 is about as ridiculous a price as I have EVER seen in ANY sports betting in my entire life. Anyone who does not lump on India here should be permanently banned from betting.

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There's a strange logic with these betting markets.
These unbelievable prices tend to get more and more unbelievable and THEN reality dawns!

Not saying India won't win but not 1.15 FFs this pair stay together for an hour and the draw will be Indians price

correct!

I am very big green the draw, but I tend to agree that $1.55 is a very very good price India. The partnership has been great but they have to start again tmrw and that isnt as easy as it was the night before. I am going to sleep on it. but wouldnt be surprised to see an early wicket tmrw and then the flood gates open, India chase 50-100 and win by 10 wickets...

what do we make of eng's chances here then? seems unthinkable to me that we bat all day for a 200+ lead. India will have been in the field for nearly 3 days when they come out to bat. Gambhir might not bat as he's gone back to Delhi for his Grans funeral.

India chasing 160 in 40 overs would be very interesting.

can defo see Eng trading in single figs if that scenario arises.

me too LIX thats why we had a little bit of 42s m8

I think many of you are overcomplicating things. No way England can bat 55 overs here on day 5. Broad, Swann, Bresnan won't hang around on this uneven turning wicket for long. India needs to pick up one wicket in the first 35-40 overs, and they'll EASILY win the match.

Again, the advice is simple: LUMP on India, and go to sleep. Collect your money when you wake up tomorrow!

listen son , there is NO WAY ON EARTH india are winning this test .
laying them = free money
just look how toothless they were today , england will be batting all day tomorrow easy .

Queen Dulu you may be proven to be right but your logic is so wrong if india dont take a wicket in the 1st 5 overs the draw price will be 2.5 if they havnt taken 1 in 10 overs it will be 2.1 and every run England score the indian price will get bigger and bigger so lumping on at 1.55 is not a very wise thing to do at the moment

Well, if you don't trust my advice, at least check out Innocent Bystander's tip on Twitter. He has also advised lumping on India at these prices.

like i said you may be proven right but look at it like this if no wicket early the draw has got to shorten so which price is going to lengthen ?

But why take the risk? If either of these two gets out in the first 10 overs, you miss out on a HUGE value. Don't be so greedy. 1.58 on India here is about as good a value bet you'll ever get.

ill take my chances ball is 48 overs old Dhoni going to be reluctant to have that many fielders around the bat Englands best 2 players of spin both set can easily see India hitting 1.8-1.9 tomorrow

good to see mugws is following my 100 % winning advice
india can't win here .

morseymug how many banks you blown since i been away son

and we all know you been laying draw time to give the charade up old bean

There will be some great chocs tomorrow. The draw price will be backable and layable at different times.

I'm in the 'comedy green on England' camp.

Tense run chase with the ball exploding through the top will suit me just fine

i love a comedy green

if they get a 160 lead what price do we reckon England would hit?

Will depend so much on the time left which will either make the draw a player or the dog.

I think Eng would still be 15 at least. 30-3 and we'll see 5

60-5 chasing 140 and no Gambhir we see evens

Turned into a potentially fascinating Day 5.

One thing I'm very sure of is that England will not be 'setting' anything. They will get bowled out or bat all day. Why set India 160 off 40 out of choice and let Sewage knock them off with his co@k?

Grind the Indian bowlers into the dirt will the option if it comes to it. It's a series - think how Brisbane changed the series against the Aussies.

Have decided to stay in bed tomorrow a.m. and write this one off to experience lose a few quid and live to fight another day.

Laying @ 1.58 too brave for me. Wicket early on and I'm f#cked.

Cowards route for me

laying and a wicket falls early on means India go 1.2

yeah, the problem here really is it only takes one good ball to break this excellent partnership and it's probably all over.  The tail can bat but probably not more than 30 odd overs.  Perhaps more importantly India will be upset after today and will be sure to come out fighting tomorrow - hard to see us surviving.  Best course of action I feel is back India now and if Prior and Cook are still in come lunch hammer the draw then - clearly prices will have moved but likelihood is they won't both still be in.

hmmm... not sure about that plan. sounds a bit like chasing the market which can work in the short term but long term leads to the poorhouse.

Topped up on Eng here at 46s 

Nov 18, 2012 -- 4:41PM, Lix wrote:

hmmm... not sure about that plan. sounds a bit like chasing the market which can work in the short term but long term leads to the poorhouse.Topped up on Eng here at 46s 

what would you do then Lix?  I really think ENG winning is totally out of the question - they just aren't going to score the runs.

when is the new ball due?

if you think we arent gonna get the runs then pile into India here. I think we can defend 140 just about. draw will be out with the washing anyway.

India are a big price but will get bigger every over without a wkt. happy to keep topping up as they drift. if eng get bat till tea I'll be amazed and take it on the chin.

32 overs nigel

34 overs to new ball so pretty much end of fir

Sorry, end of first session

problem with backing eng is that we pretty much need to have india 7 down before the market gives us any hope...

cheers - so effectively after lunch - hmm. that could be the turning point at which to pile in on India

Nov 18, 2012 -- 4:53PM, Lix wrote:

problem with backing eng is that we pretty much need to have india 7 down before the market gives us any hope...

yeah, if Prior stays in and shows intent you'll be sitting very pretty ;-)

no, i mean eng price will still have massive resistance until we are taking wkts. did you see the india home games with NZ and WI?  Asian market refuses to even contimplate india losing at home.   when it does finally happen, it'll be at a fkin big price!

Nov 18, 2012 -- 4:57PM, Lix wrote:

no, i mean eng price will still have massive resistance until we are taking wkts. did you see the india home games with NZ and WI?

ENG price will come in if we are 150 + up and Cook/Prior still in.

Cook/Prior totally the key for me and I suspect the market.

eng will be out with the washing if we are 150 ahead with cook and prior in! Draw will be 1.03

lix is right nigel, england backers need england just about all out with lead 150+ not cook and prior still batting. They aint declaring

there is no way England will score another 150 from here.  even if they can bat another 45 overs that will give them a lead of 120-150.  India can easily score that off another 45 overs.  1.5 + is massive

India will be more focussed today after the poor day yesterday.  Once this partnership is broken the rest will follow inside 15 overs

Come on folks, 1.64 is MASSIVE. LUMP on India if you haven't already. You'll never get such free money in test cricket.

Well, if you paid heed to my advice you'd be greening out now, and going back to bed with a smile!

impressive timing, wicket a couple of minutes after your post 1.64 down to 1.28.

England still being backed!

rather be on england than the draw at this point.

chris martin and the kiwis had INdia 5 /15 here two yrs ago. need something similarly outrageous to happen here.

Call me crazy folks, but here's an advice -- back England at 140, and green out once India are 45/5!

really think 130+ would be defendable here. great shame eng too poor to find out.

maybe with finn and panesar lix.

not with fatel and an injured broad.

India are excellent here- really making a statement to set the tone for the series- well worth throwing the bat

I wonder- if roles were reversed- would we have been anywhere near as aggresive

I doubt it

now a 6!
lol

If England were chasing 77 they would already be 2 down with only 4 on the board after 4 overs.

India 48/0 after 6 overs! LOL! England are truly pathetic. They are destroying the integrity of test cricket in the subcontinent.

England just don't have the ability to play cricket in the subcontinent. Look at how easily Pujara and Sehwag play spinners. They can handle spinners on these slow low turning wickets with their eyes closed. On the other hand, English batsmen seem to overcomplicate things against spin, and treat every pitch like a minefield.

now dont go overboard dulu

if eng had won the toss and posted 400+ this would/ could have been very different

You think they would've scored big had they batted first? They've batted first on quite a few occasions in Asia, and the result have been the same. Their batsmen can't play on these wickets be it on day 1 or day 5. If they bat first in Mumbai, they'll be bundled out for less than 200 again. India will score 500/5 dec and then England will be 250 all out 2nd dig. It's just a hopeless situation.

Well I think England lost any chance they had when they lost the toss.  I would have backed the draw had they won the toss.  Their pathetic showing in their first innings cost then a match they should have drawn.  I guess some people with a sound knowledge of the sub continent made some good money here.  Good fight back by England so hopefully the rest of the serioes will be exciting.

Well done queenie nice call hope you made loadsamoney didn't watch the demise of engerland

As I predicted on the 1st page of this topic, India did WIN this test.
Ea$$$$y money! It was a miracle (and due to a great innings from Cook),
that the match even went into the 5th day.

Look forward to the next match. Will probably take on the draw backers again....

Morse seems to have gone quiet. Must have lost at least £20

Thanks @trevortricky... yep made good money on India. Even if England had saved the test, the fact wouldn't change. 1.60+ on India last night was ridiculous.