West Indies v/s NewZealand 2nd Test

thxs injera

but it looks like no play for today

I wouldn't say that!

but market indicates that

Bets are not legally enforceable. there is no small claims route. If the bet is with a major then the best strategy is the threat of bad publicity.

wonder how morse feels right now

heres the forecast

http://www.myweather2.com/Cricket/West-Indies/Sabina-Park-Jamaica.aspx

i agree with soultricks1

Market overreaction is huge. Windies will have this wrapped up long before the storm hits.

just read this report

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6954296.stm

megdog, ur report is from 2007?

so what odds the draw if they take the field at 10am local time, 10/1 ?

sorry, apologies for that

Here's a better article for you mate. http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Tropical-Storm-Ernesto-heading-nearer... - to be honest if the winds are coming, i think they'll leave it as close as possible to 10am local time but wont risk crowd safety.

thanks Bhaj

if or rather when the winds come from the East or South East they will bring rain, heaby rain.  Early morning rain may have been light from the North.

Lol at these layers.
Windies will be 1.25 in a couple of hours

Hopefully the overnight/early morning rain is enough to see a delay in the start time of play and gives the storm time to settle in. Wouldn't count on it though.

Just seen this folks looks grim for monday as well with the the strom turning into a hurrican

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57486899/jamaica-braces-for-heavy-rain-f...

that was a news release 15 mins ago on CBS

so will take 12 hours to reach kingston if it is heading that way, thats 5pm local time

metal guru i'm confused with both your comments,surely I want a ball played and then the draw??even if he "pulps" the bet doesnt he honour me at 3/1(ish) for example?

Windies price crashing in. No delays here. This will be over in plenty of time to watch the evening's athletics.

its raining just now in jamaica

or is it ?
not too clear from this live webcam tbf

nonsense; light cloud, no rain

are you there ?

I had all but given up on this match and thought would take the red....but woke up to a 3.7 on draw...cashed it to get a nice green on all the three..so ill get out of it with a nice profit while..that was close..!!!

looks like rain has cleared for now for how long who knows

nigel...cant find morse today lol..!!!

could do with a weather post from somebody who knows what there talking about
preferably somebody in jamaica

the bloke laying the draw 6.6 £312 must know something solid!!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-new-zealand-2012/content/story/575...

http://www.opentopia.com/webcam/8122?viewmode=livevideo webcam live shows strong wind in palms no rain possible rain out to sea
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at5.shtml?5-daynl#contents
National hurricane centre
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT5+shtml/051159.shtml?
warnings of 3-6 inches of rain in Jamacia, downgrades chance of tropical force winds from last two days ago, not the size of the system. and distance to Jamacia
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/flash-vis.html
Satelite pictures of the clouds coming, I make them around two hours off, play with animation at bottom.
http://www.metservice.gov.jm/forecast.asp
Shows rain all day probably useless guesser
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/MKJP.html
Weather for KNM airport
10km from ground, rain did fall in kingston during night when they said thunder nearby. Its useful and gives windspeeds, also note thunderclouds near.

Thats the best sites now make you own mind up but I fancy the draw at 6

thx probst

agreed probst looks like the heavy stuff about 2/3 hours away

the draw is drifting all the time,if yanky weather forecastors (is that even a word) are anything like british one's(fish comes to mind) they aren't really worth a tommy tank.

It'll have to be there 3 hours from now at the latest for the draw to be a good chance. And once it comes it'll have to stay for the next 24 hours.

drifting like the clappers

looks like its picking up pace

Draw price now collapsing again, into 5.7.

Weather forecasts not good at all

the storm is gonna get there in approx 2 hours imo

Gonna be touch and go. If NZ scored another 30-40 runs I'd be a bit more safe on the draw. Got $50 on the draw paying $25 though so I'm just gonna sit on it and see where it takes me.

thought reports said it was 240 km away at 5am local ?

moving 35k per hour roughly so approx 1130am but fringes will hit earlier imo

Also a chance if NZ don't get early wickets that they may slow things down. Maybe bowl defensively and try and strike gold with the rain. It could really be that close.

if it was 240km away at 5am, then 5 hours on it will have travelled at least 200km surley? it was traveling at 24mph or so

Its also 500km wide which everyone seems to have missed, compare the storm system to the size of Jamacia its about 8-10 times as big, it does not need to nail it dead centre at all, its not a fxxking light shower on sunday afternoon that spoils a picnic, its a hurricane, it brings bad weather. the last weather this bad in the uk was in 1982

no 240 miles (not km) and moving at 22mph thats at 5am, so unless it speeds up it will take take 12 hours (assuming its heading direct to jamaica)

thats the centre rider the size is at least 500km wide which Probst eluded to

cloud doesnt mean rain PTTT, we can all see a big swirl of cloud on the satellite

the coulds are carrying precipition as there is so moisture in the air rider

keep backing the draw then

2/1 out to 6/1 suggests otherwise

laying the draw could be free money but imo defo not laying it when a tropical storm is now sat approx 100km east and im not backing as very with my green

everyone one is green PTTT, this is cricket, no losers on here

im losing £9 on the draw in the SA v Eng game

actually reading some comments on faecbook, the locals not bothered about this storm at all

2 days to go, plenty of time to turn that around PTTT

its essentialy a tropicial storm so no damage really going to be sustained thankfuly for the locals, yes maybe rider but tend to think as does the market that im gonna do £9

sun is out apparently

they only bothered about losing electricity and not seeing the 100m final

game over now for draw backers. We were ****ed over somewhere along the line in the past 2 hours

not yet as storm still tracking to hit in next few hours

essentially not much has changed to forcast it just that the sun is out at mo

i don't think its the rain thats the problem, the winds are quite bad, so that could yet play a part, we will see i guess.

dam yes forgot about win speed could be a major factor whats current speed at mo

well the storm is about 22mph atm

no its moving at 22 mph.. the winds are 50ish

my bad

anyone saved green on tie

looks like ernesto evaporated

"The equation is: West Indies need 71 runs, New Zealand need six wickets. The other thing occupying West Indies cricket fans' minds over the past couple of days has been the weather, especially the progress of tropical storm Ernesto. The good news is the sun is out and the rain is staying away for now. When it does arrive, expect it to wipe out huge amounts of play.
Anyway, we probably need another two hours of play to settle this Test, right now the storm threat looks silly, as fans are greeted by blue skies and just a few wispy clouds"

from cric info

from cric info

Bright and sunny in Kingston, they are not worried about it at all!

anyone backing the draw in this match really needed their head examined. nobody ever went broke laying ridiculously priced draws in test cricket.

Chanderpaul is such a selfish player, his boys need 42 with 6 wickets
and he is defending to keep his not out status in tact, the boy needs a slap or made to retire and let a real man come in and finish the weak Kiwi's off and let me count my dollar bills.

yes... 1 of the best test batsman in world cricket should listen to you

I don't really give a shyte if he listens to me or not, I am here to win money nothing else and I want my money quick before this so called hurricane

so stick a carrot up your bottom King max

its ****ing 1.01

Fuzzer - draw traded at 100+ so I would say those who backed it and layed at 4s have done quite well.

what fun this was one was.  Came out several hundred pounds worse off but enjoyed the movement and tussle with the weather - more than made up for it on the ENG v SA game by backing the draw at the start

karl - defence is EXACTLY what the WI needed - without SC in the side a few wickets could have gone early today and might have been an NZ win - that's how key he is.

They weathered the initial storm, Roach made the runs needed to take the pressure off and still now with only 11 needed, SC is still blocking and only driving defensively- Does ne still need to defend and what is the purpose - To protect his strike rate and average ...That is very selfish to me

If they had defended, I have seen the WI collapse previously, they needed to be pro active in acquiring the runs

that's Shiv's style and with all the kamikaze batsmen around him it's sensible.

6 needed with 5 wickets remaining and he still is leaving and blocking. This is against the worst bowling attck I have ever seen after the Bangladeshis

give it a rest

Am I not allowed to have a say now without your permission King Max, I take it you finished with the carrot

i prefer cucumbers...

nice result for me in that test , that hurricane panic suited my sort of trades to a tee ...I wish every test match had the threat of a hurricane !!
I literally watched the draw contract from 25.0's to 4.8 in front of my very eyes in the space of less than about 3 minutes ...sunday morning at about 9.35 am GMT, never seen a 'post stumps/not in-play' weather crash like that
was insane

Nicky - was it triggered by large block trades or a flurry of small trades?  Where were the bookies prices at the time?  I imagine there were some tasty arbs to be had.

So did the storm come through after play finished? How long after play ended? Was it as hard as expected?

Nige ....just many backs of the draw in a short space of time , smashed off the board...windies drifted from 1.15ish to 1.4x at the time of the crash
Baldies were going 28 to 1, 365 were also 28's(but suspended pretty quick), laddies were 16's , bills were going 10's, sky the same...
don't even know if ernesto did hit after all , anyone know ?

I looked at the webcam link at about 8pm UK time and people were still in the swimming pool and there was no rain.

My countries local bookie didn't change the odds from $25 for about an hour! Could've arbed it big time! Wasn't 100% sure if my bet would stand though so sat on the miracle. Would love to know what weather did end up coming for future reference. About now the storm should be in full effect! The outfield near the boundaries looked very soft yesterday.

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/MKJP.html
looks like theres been quite a bit of rain from 2pm ish yesterday and doesnt look like they would have played today.shame the kiwis batted abysmally in the second innings as the draw would have been jackpot time