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Asparagus Man
29 Jan 12 20:53
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Starts Friday
Current: Pak 2.8 Eng 3.15 Draw 3.15

At Dubai same venue as the 1st Test which lasted 3 days. Teams likely unchanged - possibly Bopara for Morgan?

Teeing up a substantial draw lay here - a lay at around 3 seems superb value:

Dead rubber - no reason for either side to play for the draw here
High quality bowling attacks on both teams
Pretty sure to get 5 days in weather wise
DRS

Only thing I can see in favour of the draw is that scoring rates have tended to be sluggish, so if England do suddenly work out how to stay in could be some slow sessions. England may be forced to more aggressive tactics though - which would seem to make a draw even less likely.

The floor is open for debate

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By:
rob_dylan
When: 29 Jan 12 21:11
Lay the arse off the draw
By:
Aus01-Eng03
When: 30 Jan 12 04:49
Early thoughts : England CANT play spin
Prediction : England WONT be able to cope up with the quality of spin
Important statistic : England dont win in non swinging/non bouncy conditions, and CANT play spin.
Bets : Lay England\back Pakistan (cant believe the odds available on pakistan here)
Stake : 5/10, as dead rubber, and Pak can be notoriously, less arsed for this.
By:
peternorth83
When: 31 Jan 12 06:12
It’s a neutral venue and these Asian pitches suited the Pakistan team.


So for me Pakistan team is favorite.
By:
wise-punt
When: 31 Jan 12 08:45
pk odds are massive. lump and colect
By:
Lix
When: 01 Feb 12 04:42
quite a push on the draw tonight. Out to 3.95 now Shocked team news? pitch report?  I guess Dubai is now a result venue with 2/3 results here and the last test over in 3 days. would like to lay the draw here but 3/1 pre match aint my thing.. Plain
By:
elchic
When: 01 Feb 12 05:13
the money for england must be coming from those in the UK, surely? how are they favs for this test after what's happened in the first two? I can understand the motivation of avoiding a clean sweep series embarrassment will be very strong for England, stronger than Pak's motivation to clean sweep the series, they'll be very content with where they are at i'd imagine. But given what we've seen, Pak surely go in to this match favourite.
By:
Aus01-Eng03
When: 02 Feb 12 07:36
motives are a funny thing. And we can only see the obvious ones. With Pakistan you need the third eye too Plain
By:
Lix
When: 02 Feb 12 08:30
You can look at things in many ways. You could say Eng have improved from the 1st test to the 2nd test. If they improve again further here you can see them winning + Pak's motivation is questionable here.

personally, these markets in the desert pretty much shout from the rooftops whether they fancy a draw or a result. wait for the market to talk imo.
By:
Joel
When: 02 Feb 12 09:00
Wasn't the draw pretty much even money in the first test?
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 02 Feb 12 09:34
Was about 2.2 Joel - think it went sub evens on the first day though.
By:
Barney The Bot Slayer
When: 02 Feb 12 12:19
Starts Friday
Current: Pak 2.8 Eng 3.15 Draw 3.15

At Dubai same venue as the 1st Test which lasted 3 days. Teams likely unchanged - possibly Bopara for Morgan?

Which team will make this change??
By:
BigMig
When: 02 Feb 12 13:18
It would be a mistake to assume the pitch for the 3rd Test will play the same as the pitch for the 1st Test
By:
Injera
When: 02 Feb 12 17:24
Not had this confirmed but I assume it's a different pitch???!!
By:
fairfranco
When: 02 Feb 12 17:53
according to Misbah there is less grass and it looks a better batting pitch.


Question for you all and we'll get to see who wins after...CBL give you the option to choose your own run lines in 140 run brackets with odds of evens.

What run line would you go for each team for the 1st innings score?

I've done England 240-389
By:
BigMig
When: 02 Feb 12 19:33
It is two strips away from the First Test pitch.
By:
BigMig
When: 02 Feb 12 20:12
Cricinfo's thoughts on the pitch and conditions...

The pitch for the first Test offered a little assistance to the bowlers but this surface is brand new, never been used. There is less grass on this pitch, with Misbah saying: "It looks an even better wicket than the first Test, especially for batting." This could finally be the run-fest we were expecting before the start of the series.
By:
Injera
When: 02 Feb 12 20:18
Thanks BM.

I'll be fascinated by how it plays. Very difficult to stop a pitch from baking in this weather.

It was of course open to the elements for 5 days then it would have been watered, covered at times and cut lower and lower as this test approached.
By:
kingmax
When: 03 Feb 12 06:10
is betfair down?
By:
Joseph123
When: 03 Feb 12 06:12
yes down for sure, very annoying
By:
Injera
When: 03 Feb 12 06:12
Just come back.
By:
Joseph123
When: 03 Feb 12 06:13
back now i think
By:
Injera
When: 03 Feb 12 06:13
can't place a bet
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PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 03 Feb 12 06:27
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By:
kingmax
When: 03 Feb 12 06:38
i hope no ones stuck with a bad trade here
By:
ramramsey
When: 03 Feb 12 06:40
ramram
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PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 03 Feb 12 06:43
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By:
kingmax
When: 03 Feb 12 06:51
feel sorry for the ump here, to hard decisions hes got wrong already
By:
PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH
When: 03 Feb 12 06:51
betfair down =s draw layers Happy, draw backers Cry, and nothing you can do about it Sad
By:
kingmax
When: 03 Feb 12 06:53
two*
By:
kingmax
When: 03 Feb 12 07:51
1.22. more like 1.02
By:
ramramsey
When: 03 Feb 12 08:04
eng.1.23---1.27 on ****.com
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ramramsey
When: 03 Feb 12 08:06
Is!   bet.com is not allowed to type here
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ramramsey
When: 03 Feb 12 08:07
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