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judorick
19 Jul 12 23:06
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The Olympic Judo Tournament is the absolute pinnacle of this dynamic and explosive sport. Places are limited and the players have been charging round the world for two years accumulating ranking points to get a place and if possible a seeding. The top nations are Japan, France, Russia and the other former Soviet states (Georgia, Uzbekistan, Armenia, Ukraine etc). Great Britain has had a poor record and are desperate to win a medal this time (very unlikely in my opinion). There are 7 weight categories for men and women. Over 7 days of competition there will be one category for men and one for women completed each day. The events take place in the Excel centre.

If you have never watched any top class judo I recommend catching some of it on the dedicated channel the BBC are providing. And if you only catch one session I would watch the finals session on day 3 or 4 of the competition (mens 73kg or mens 81kg) as these will be the best in my opinion.

Here's a run down of the contenders and stories to watch out for:

Mens

-60kg: Ashley McKenzie goes for the UK, he's 22 years old and has had a colourful life (ADHD, foster kid, trouble with the law). He is highly talented but this will prob come too soon for him. The top competitors, and they are tough, are the Japanese, Russian, Ukrainian and the superstar SOBIROV from Uzbekistan. Very tough category and hard to call

-66kg: Colin Oates goes for the UK, he's a solid performer and an outside bet. Quarter finals would be good. Again an extremely tough category with the Russian GADANOV a strong favourite. The Japanese player Ebinumi is classy but a bit eratic. Colin has it all to do

-73kg: Daniel Williams may find himself in a world of pain because this category is the best in the competition, pound for pound. The Korean WANG and his rival NAKAYA from Japan are exceptional fighters and if they make the final it will be like the Nadal and Federer of the judo world. Included in this category are some superb fighters like Dex Elmont (NED), Ugo LeGrand (FRA) and Isaev (RUS). This will be top class action on the third day and is highly recommended.

-81kg: Euan Burton is the UKs highest seeded player but he too finds himself in an exceptionally tough category. He has had some good results and on his day can beat anyone in the world but this is really tough. A bronze medal would rate an outstanding achievement but I think its unlikely. Watch out for the Russian MAGOMEDOV who I rate one of the strongest pound for pound fighters around. A former world champion he came out of retirement to try to get to the games. Seeded 6 no one will want to draw him. Lots of brilliant fighters in here and anything could happen. Explosive action is guaranteed

-90kg: Winston Gordon is a fine player and is capable of going deep. However, the whole story in this weight category is about the legend, double world and Olympic Champion from Greece ILIAS ILADIS. The man is hero, a legend and a treasure in his home country. He is their Rafa Nadal, Vitali Klitschko and Lionel Messi rolled into one. In the recent European Champs he was flattened by an up and coming German called Christopher Lambert and he is a name to look out for.

-100kg: 4 players standout and the winner will almost certainly be from Kaz, Rus, Jpn or Ned. Not much to say. The Brit James Austion has no chance whatsoever and is cannon fodder for the big guys

+100kg: This is all about the legend that is TEDDY RINER. The 22 year old Frenchman is 6 foot 8 inches tall and weighs 128kgs. Already a 5 time World Champion he moves like a ballet dancer and explodes with the power of a heavyweight weight lifter. Faster , stronger and better than everyone he is a virtual certainty and to me is the most certain Gold Medal winner in the entire Olympic Games. No joke, he can't be beat. The Brit Chris Sherrington has done well to qualify

Womens:- (I know much less about this)

-48kg: The Japanese fighter is rightly ranked #1 but the story revolves around Saran Menezes a girl from the slums in Brazil hoping to win Gold. I will be cheering her on. I don't know the Brit Kelly Edwards and assume she is a no hoper. The other story is the Roumanian girl, Dumitru, who is the reigning Olympic champ and 8 time European champion. She will be retiring after the games. The improver in Charlene Van Snick from Belgium who has burst onto the scene this year #3

-52kg: The Japanese will be hard to beat as they have the choice of the 4 top ranked girls in this category. Virtually a walkover for them. Sophie Cox, the Brit, had a 5 year break from the sport and came back when London was announced. She has a chance as she is World class. Needs a decent draw to avoid the top seeds

- 57kg:Japanese girl is different class, she's a 1.2 shot in my mind for gold medal. Sarah Clark is experienced and not na bad player, on her day she can go well

- 63kg: two fighters stand out from Japan and France and that should be the final. Gemma Howell will do well to make the second round

- 70kgs: shootout between Lucie Decosse (superstar multi champion) from France and the dutch girl Edith Bosch. British girl not much chance

-78kgs: The Americans are looking for their first Gold medal with Kayla Harrison but this is a wide open category as they are all rubbish so I guess the Brit might have a chance

+ 78kgs: Karina Bryant has won lots of medals and could well get one here. This is a rubbish category and they can all beat each other and really not worth watching. The enormous Chinese QIN and the Japanese TACHIMOTO form my shortlist

Anyway there you go, if you do find yourself with nothing to do or watch, check the judo out, especially the finals sessions and if you do I hope this little guide to the competitors helps enhance the enjoyment.

For me its all about Wang (-73kg), Iliadis (-90kg), Riner (+100kg) and hopefully seeing a Brit win a medal although I'm not holding my breath

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By:
judorick
When: 19 Jul 12 23:29
The BBC website has put on guides to the events, this is the judo one

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/judo/16487863
By:
carlos monzon
When: 20 Jul 12 01:55
Thanks
By:
judorick
When: 20 Jul 12 02:02
I don't know if there will be betting on this but those players that I have named in CAPITALS would be very strong favs - some will be short like Riner but you may get decent odds on the others
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 20 Jul 12 07:56
This is great.

I haven't a clue about the sport, but this preview is my first port of call when it comes on the TV. I'll be recovering from an operation and will have plenty of 'telly time' during the Olympics, so I'm following the judo definitely off the back of this.
By:
Banned_Banks
When: 20 Jul 12 10:49
I have now come to the conclusion that rogerthebutler is a paid ambassador for the games.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 20 Jul 12 10:59
Just one of the many things I can't claim supplementary benefit for.
By:
carlos monzon
When: 20 Jul 12 20:53
I'm realy enjoying these previews from judorick and roger the buttler.

I hope u could preview a few more events. I'm loving it
By:
rev ike
When: 20 Jul 12 20:54
interesting stuff judorick-first judo analysis i've seen on here- we're going all day to the 63/81 day ...can't wait.
Sadly i fear burton has gone  somewhat, but gemma is a serious prospect ,though is seede last due to her injuries.
Agree ashley & colin have o/side chances,but winston has gone and should never be there.
Conway at u70 has improved a lot this year but gemma gibbons at u78 has no chance -she has moved up recently and is well outgunned.
Looking forward to next week- not sure about betting on this though!!
By:
judorick
When: 20 Jul 12 21:32
yes rev

betting on judo not for the feint hearted!

enjoy the day and watch out for the Russian - he's a beast
By:
judorick
When: 20 Jul 12 21:37
@ rev

as I say in the OP I doubt GB will get a medal
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 20 Jul 12 23:23
you sure that Magomodev is a runner?  According to the wiki page the Russian reprentative is a fella called Ivan Nifontov
By:
judorick
When: 20 Jul 12 23:32
aww well there is always competition in the russian team, he was ranked 6 and the highest rated russian at the end of the qualification

that does nor preclude the team picking someone else
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 21 Jul 12 00:04
I have vague recollections of womens judo being a test event and GB winning 3 gold medals in it?  mebbe Seoul 1988?  probably about the only sport in the Olympics where we've actually got worse and worse and worse.
By:
judorick
When: 21 Jul 12 00:28
yes we had karen briggs, kate howey and nicola fairbrother who were all champion class

our best man was Neil Adams who won a world title in 1981 and two silvers in moscow and los angeles

been really struggling for years

compare that with the japanese and russians who have a choice of 3 or 4 players in most divisions

thing is it's a labour of love, there's no money and it is a really hard sport that takes donkeys years to master and for a lot of that time you are gonna get stood on your head 500 times a week whilst sparring with the seniors - really hard to retain kids at 16, like a contemporary of mine Allen Payne who was truly gifted but wanted to go out, earn money, get a girlfriend and be normal - he coulda been a champion
By:
rev ike
When: 21 Jul 12 12:58
agree with u rick mag better than nifontov,but some countries have riches......not us!
By:
Danno
When: 21 Jul 12 13:02
judorick - you've clearly competed a lot and you know your stuff.  What level did you compete at and in what era?  Keen to know, although understand if you don't want to reveal your identity.

I do a fair bit of athletics.  There will be some great value from athletes who have been improving on the circuit but who are not big household names.  Many big names will get turned over.  I'll do some analysis on here each day if I've got time and I'm not out there watching.

One early tip is the lay favourites in the heats.  Runners tend not to want to use any unnecessary energy so are happy to coast in in 2nd or 3rd place to secure passage to the next round, but big favourites often go off at 1.1 or less.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 21 Jul 12 21:59
Rick I've just sent you a PM.

Great write up btw.

Come on Euan! Happy
By:
judorick
When: 21 Jul 12 23:32
@ Danno

competed at a high level from early 80s to mid 90s, 4th dan, international(GB squad), trained Budokwai, Kendal Judo Centre, Romford and Hornchurch, Middleton, Leeds Intl Pool... coaches included Jacks, Leigh, Mapp, McConnell, Sweeney, Barraclough and others. Spent 6 months training with Kashiwazaki when he was over here
By:
JustWinBaby
When: 24 Jul 12 04:02
Thanks for the preview

The lesser known sports always contains the greatest value if you know the sport inside out
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 24 Jul 12 11:29
BBC3 tonight at 9.00pm - 'Bad Boy Olympian'.

A documentary about Ashley McKenzie.

It looks really good.

(Don't miss it, Rick)
By:
NonShy..
When: 24 Jul 12 14:06
cheers judorick
By:
NonShy..
When: 24 Jul 12 14:10
double wang and iliadis 9/2
By:
judorick
When: 24 Jul 12 14:11
Corals are laying Teddy Riner at 1/2

seriously this is finding money in the street, he's 1.05 in my mind
By:
NonShy..
When: 24 Jul 12 14:24
judo - laddies 8/15
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 24 Jul 12 21:25
Just watching Ashley.

Oh my god, that poor lad.

Having to compete in something where you need to be so disciplined and focused while having to cope with such a severe case of ADHD.

I could cry for him.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 24 Jul 12 21:44
Aaaw.. his poor mum.

Terrible pressure she has been under having to bring up a child with ADHD. She's a good'n.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 24 Jul 12 21:45
He is one brilliant kid!
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 24 Jul 12 21:58
Fantastic programme.

Go Ashley!!!!
By:
md49vd
When: 24 Jul 12 22:03
he only lost to fat japanese fella by 10 points

if that japo is a fav, ashley should be too
By:
Bayes.
When: 24 Jul 12 22:14
Great preview. Makes it so much more watchable when you have this kind of information.
By:
Barzalona
When: 24 Jul 12 23:21
A few of the Judo side were staying at the Hilton nr Darford Bridge last week, I was in the Health suite sauna and they came in... did not get any names but there was a scottish girl who had like a 10 pack stomach and a fecking huge black guy with like a 20 inch waist and shoulders double this size.

Ridiculous physiques shredded and toned to perfection.
By:
md49vd
When: 25 Jul 12 22:25
that was me bruv, stop perving on me.
By:
Barzalona
When: 25 Jul 12 23:08
Wee Scots lass was the one I was talking haha
By:
rev ike
When: 27 Jul 12 09:24
tough draws for brits
By:
judorick
When: 27 Jul 12 15:02
I will do a review of the draw and post any thoughts that occur

but at first look Mckenzie and Burton have horrible draws
By:
judorick
When: 27 Jul 12 15:35
Womens Draw

The GBR women have suffered very badly in the draw. Gemma Gibbons (-78kg) and Karina Bryant (+78kg) have fared best. The rest have all either drawn one of the top seeds in the opening round or will have to win a fight to earn the pleasure of facing one of the top fighters

I won't rule the two heavyweight girls out, they could get in the medals if things go right but the rest have no chance
By:
judorick
When: 27 Jul 12 16:25
Men's Draw

-60kg: I predict the 4 semi finalists will be Sobirov (Uzb), Galstyan (Rus), Hiraoka (Jpn), Zantaraia (Ukr)
       Winner: SOBIROV

Mckenzie has drawn the Japanese in round 1 and would have a great chance of making the semi final if he can get passed the seeded player
That is an outside chance really

-66kg: really tough category. Poor old Colin Oates has a horrible draw and must be a massive outside chance for a medal
       semi finallists: Mogushkov (Rus), Cunha (Bra), Khashbaatar (Mgl), Ebinuma (Jpn)
       winner Ebinuma

-73kg: Daniel Williams of GBR has had about as good a draw as you could hope for and if he can take the opportunity he might make the quarter final or better

      semi finals: Wang (Kor), Isaev (Rus), Nakaya (Jpn), Elmont (Ned)
      winner WANG

-81kg: Euan Burton has a bye in the first round but that's not gonna help because he is drawn to meet reigning Olympic champ Mammadli and I can't see him beating him at all

     semi finals: Guilhero (Bra), Bischof (Ger), Kim (Kor), Mammadali (Aze)
     winner: Mammadali

-90Kg: Winston Gordon is a smashing lad but he is not 150/1 for nothing
      semi finals: Iliadis (Gre), Liparteliani (Geo), Lambert (Ger), Gontiuk (Ukr)
      winner Iliadis
      saver Lambert

- 100kg: James Austin has drawn the Japanese and that is never good !
         semi finals:Rakov (Kaz), Sayidov (Uzb), Zeevei (Isr), Anai (Jpn)
         winner Anai

+ 100 kg: Winner Riner, no idea who will fight through to the semi finals

be interesting to see how many winners I can name

starts Saturday morning with the -60kg men and -48kg women
By:
NonShy..
When: 27 Jul 12 16:27
cheers rick
By:
judorick
When: 27 Jul 12 16:37
treble on Sobirov, Wang and Riner would seem very solid

the two Japanese girls in -48kg and -52kg are absolute standouts so you could bung them in
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