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UK experts were keen to get the good news out as soon as possible that a steroid called dexamethasone could save the lives of people seriously ill with coronavirus.

Drug trial findings are usually published in a medical journal after being evaluated or "peer-reviewed" by other experts but that takes time. The investigators behind the dexamethasone study say that as soon as it became clear that the results were so significant and of instant global importance they went public.

All of the usual checks and measures will still happen but, in the meantime, lives can be saved if doctors start giving the drug to the sickest patients who could benefit.

Dexamethasone is cheap and widely available and, according to the research, cuts the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. The UK already has a stockpile of 200,000 doses that are “ready to go” for National Health Service patients.

The drug is generic which means there won't be the issue of big pharmaceutical companies charging lots of money for it - something that can happen with new drugs. And it’s easy to make, meaning production can be scaled up quickly to get it out to more patients around the world.
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Report i_agree_with_nick June 16, 2020 4:55 PM BST
There's even a scientist attending today.
Report Angoose June 16, 2020 5:03 PM BST
Handjob will be fuming Angry



Report Petraco June 16, 2020 5:05 PM BST
Cometh the hour, cometh the man.

And the man is Boris Cool
Report InsiderTrader June 16, 2020 5:16 PM BST
Great news!!!
Report Angoose June 16, 2020 5:21 PM BST
Johnson trying to quickly move on from yet another embarrassing u-turn but Vallance stops him ....
Report Angoose June 16, 2020 5:22 PM BST
Johnson had absolutely no idea who Marcus Rashford was 24 hours ago, now bending to his requests.
Report Cider June 16, 2020 5:24 PM BST
Or he forgot about the second question for Valance.
Report Cider June 16, 2020 5:25 PM BST
Pretty poor we need to give into campaigns from filthy rich footballers, welcome to 2020.
Report politicspunter June 16, 2020 5:27 PM BST

Jun 16, 2020 -- 5:22PM, Angoose wrote:


Johnson had absolutely no idea who Marcus Rashford was 24 hours ago, now bending to his requests.


Yep, tory prime ministers have got a poor record with strikers.

Report Angoose June 16, 2020 5:27 PM BST
Pretty poor that such a campaign was even needed.
Report lapsy pa June 16, 2020 5:29 PM BST
Good man Rashford,leave the children particulary from poor areas have some food,who can begrudge them that.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 16, 2020 5:29 PM BST
He says he only found out about Marcus rashford campaign today


They can't help themselves, can they.
Report Cider June 16, 2020 5:29 PM BST
What are those families spending their money on pray tell. Already living off the tax payer in term time.
Report Angoose June 16, 2020 5:30 PM BST
Lewis Goodall
@lewis_goodall

PM repeatedly congratulating Marcus Rashford “and his campaign” does feel a little odd, given the only reason the campaign existed in the first place was government policy...
Report lapsy pa June 16, 2020 5:31 PM BST
What about Rees Moggs companies in the Cayman Islands Cider,not a sausage to the children or 1p to the upkeep of the UK.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 16, 2020 5:32 PM BST
If they rely upon the tax payer in term time and have no spare cash

What happens when they have an extra mouth to feed in holidays?

Not rocket science to know these kids deserve the guarantee
of a hot meal in the holidays
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 16, 2020 5:33 PM BST
Madgaret Thatcher... Milk snatcher

Boris johnson failed dinner thief

Rees mugg tax avoider
Report Cider June 16, 2020 5:36 PM BST
What does no spare cash mean? After the £60 pcm mobile contract? After beer and ****, weed, netflix, holidays? if you've got little or no rent, no council tax, UC, child benefit. Why should the state pay for people to have kids when they can't afford them otherwise. I couldn't imagine having kids and not being able to feed them myself.
Report Whisperingdeath June 16, 2020 5:36 PM BST
Flounder
Report lapsy pa June 16, 2020 5:41 PM BST
Get the tax avoiders to pay their dues and give the children a meal.
Report Cider June 16, 2020 5:46 PM BST
Those are detached arguments. Surely minimising taxation legally is something any sane person should be doing. Certainly that's what I do, and mitigate against risk.
Report SontaranStratagem June 16, 2020 5:47 PM BST
Brilliant, out of nowhere pops a magic cure and all is well

That's how it works I suppose, they just test these drugs on people in hospital, Guinea pigs for a disease and it doesn't matter if it kills them eh its all good

They must think we're all thick as pig s*** Crazy
Report Cider June 16, 2020 5:48 PM BST
Speak for yourself.
Report aaronh June 16, 2020 5:49 PM BST
every single free thinker like Cider out there just throwing out scrounger narratives like usual
Report SontaranStratagem June 16, 2020 5:49 PM BST
They've got this magic cure? yet 41,000 have died Crazy

So what is it? a magic cure or not?
Report Cider June 16, 2020 5:50 PM BST
It's not a cure it's a treatment.
Report Cider June 16, 2020 5:52 PM BST

Jun 16, 2020 -- 5:49PM, aaronh wrote:


every single free thinker like Cider out there just throwing out scrounger narratives like usual


Do you think everyone who will be receiving this has absolutely no other option? They don't engage in any discretionary spending? There is no possible job out there for them?

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 16, 2020 5:54 PM BST
I thought Marcus explained the circumstances very very from his own experiences.

Not many school kids pay for own meals.

Even fewer repay the free meals they received by feeding next generation.


Cider must have dun a milk round to pay for his school dinners, perhaps?
Report SontaranStratagem June 16, 2020 5:54 PM BST
Magic sponge treatment from out of nowhere

They've took the utter pish and now need to find a way out of it ?
Report Cider June 16, 2020 5:54 PM BST
You need a safety net for people who fall on hard times. Not a lifestyle choice.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 16, 2020 5:54 PM BST
Very well**
Report Cider June 16, 2020 5:58 PM BST
I did a paper round, 6.30 am before school, and at the weekend for £10 a week if you must know. I grew up on a council estate. My Dad was made redundant twice. I have experienced both sides of the coin.
Report SontaranStratagem June 16, 2020 5:59 PM BST
Boris and his magic sponge
Report InsiderTrader June 16, 2020 6:01 PM BST
Really amazing news today.

Looks like 1 in 8 deaths (12.5%) can be avoided going forward.

This is the start of the fight back to get back to normal.

As someone living with someone shielding this is the best news for months!!!
Report Cider June 16, 2020 6:03 PM BST
You can really see the false narrative exposed when we get that news IT, and the media persists with its virtue signalling agenda.
Report Cider June 16, 2020 6:03 PM BST
Including of course dear old auntie.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 16, 2020 7:06 PM BST
It is great news I t

And if drug works even better in combinations there could be more good news ahead.

Fingers crossed
Report InsiderTrader June 16, 2020 7:09 PM BST

Jun 16, 2020 -- 6:03PM, Cider wrote:


You can really see the false narrative exposed when we get that news IT, and the media persists with its virtue signalling agenda.


I would rather get that news than news that different groups are fighting in the streets.

Report Dotchinite June 16, 2020 7:11 PM BST
Can someone explains something about this drug? From what I can see it may cut deaths of ventilated patients by 30% and those who
need oxygen by a fifth but doesnt help people who arent ventilated/oxygenated.
Who are these people? Are they the ones who dont actually die from covid but of other things after testing positive for it?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 16, 2020 7:19 PM BST
It may be ones who don't get their lungs attacked, but their
kidneys or blood vessels.

I don't know, that's just a stab at an answer, the virus attacks in many
Ways, now they know the drug works in some cases they can start working on the hows and whys, and hopefully build on the success.
Report Dotchinite June 16, 2020 7:24 PM BST
I do think it would help if they only included people who actually died from covid in the stats though. I just wondered if this gave a clue to the percentage who were just positive test results and had actually died of their underlying condition. It seems strange that you can die of what is primarily a lung disease without ever needing oxygen.
Report SontaranStratagem June 16, 2020 7:25 PM BST
Kidney's, blood vessels and lungs

What about heart? we can stick the brain in as well
Report SontaranStratagem June 16, 2020 7:49 PM BST
You know full well this drug is now going to be hoarded by the state and not be allowed to be given as a prescription for anything other than this virus, which is utter BS

You wont get your hands on any of this wonder drug from space
Report i_agree_with_nick June 16, 2020 7:52 PM BST
Who are these people? Are they the ones who dont actually die from covid but of other things after testing positive for it?


My understanding was that they weren't necessarily people who died but those who became ill.
Report i_agree_with_nick June 16, 2020 7:55 PM BST
InsiderTrader 16 Jun 20 18:01 Joined: 25 Aug 05 | Topic/replies: 12,975 | Blogger: InsiderTrader's blog

Really amazing news today.

Looks like 1 in 8 deaths (12.5%) can be avoided going forward.

This is the start of the fight back to get back to normal.

As someone living with someone shielding this is the best news for months!!!




It is good news but bear in mind it won't prevent you from catching the virus or becoming ill.

Stay safe.
Report casemoney June 16, 2020 8:04 PM BST
Do people actually think the PM of any country is involved with free school dinners LaughLaughLaughLaugh

I would bet long odds on he had not heard of the Marcus campaign , the Lad done well
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 16, 2020 8:12 PM BST
It is of course possible dotch.

Dunno what the criteria were for taking part and how far gone some of em may have been.

If it's 1 in 8 saved and 2000 took part it's an extra 250 alive because of trial
(unless I misunderstood what scientist said) so it's a great start point.
Report 1st time poster June 17, 2020 8:49 AM BST
they put an 18 yr old on tv this morning who was saved by the drug,been telling us all week more chance of been killed by lightening at her age
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