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11 Jun 20 16:14
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A council has dramatically abandoned its plan to take down a seaside statue of Lord Baden-Powell today after his supporters blocked a removal team brought in following pressure from Black Lives Matter protesters who branded him racist, homophobic and fascist.

Former Scouts, some from more than 100 miles away, had rushed to Dorset and formed a ring of steel around the bronze monument, fending off a disposal crew in Poole Quay at 7.30am as the campaign to remove 92 historic monuments in Britain hurtles on.

And this afternoon Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole (BCP) Councillor Mark Howell said that the removal is off for today because contractors didn't want to work in a 'circus', adding: 'We will be providing 24-hour security until it is either removed or the threat diminishes. It is possible we might not take it away at all'.

Lord Baden-Powell was honoured with a statue in Poole 12 years ago because he founded the world Scout Movement that has helped tens of millions of children - and the bronze monument looks out to Brownsea Island where he held the first Scout camp in 1907.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8409331/Statue-Scouts-founder-Lord-Baden-Powell-REMOVED-seafront.html

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By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Jun 20 16:18
Good news
Ring of steel - apt Mischief
By:
A_T
When: 11 Jun 20 16:25
great news for all lovers of looking at pictures of naked boys
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 11 Jun 20 16:25
i thought lbp was gay, or am  i thinking of wrong person.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 11 Jun 20 16:25
https://news.sky.com/story/robert-baden-powell-statue-livid-poole-residents-vow-to-fight-plan-to-take-down-monument-of-scouts-founder-12004683
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 11 Jun 20 16:28
Don't think he was gay, think he was anti gay.

He was a fan of Hitler though, wanted scouts to be more like Hitler youth.

Hey if they want to defend that sort of thing...
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 11 Jun 20 16:32
The same Hitler who banned the Scouts?
By:
Baphornet
When: 11 Jun 20 16:33
blm hasn't worked now the LGBT want to have a crack
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Jun 20 16:34
It the principle that blackwashing history and tearing the country to bits has been avoided in this case.
If those doing the blackwashing had genuine interests to improve 'inequalities' related to 'race' they should be able to acknowledge and discuss past failings showing wrong from right,they should also acknowledge subsequent improvements and be prepared to accept past failings from their side.
The agenda driven blackwashing doesn't allow for this.
By:
edy
When: 11 Jun 20 16:34
Wikipedia sounds like he wasn't really a fan of Hitler. Just a huge fan of Mein Kampf and bemoaned that Hitler betrayed it.

In 1939 Baden-Powell wrote in his diary: "Lay up all day. Read Mein Kampf. A wonderful book, with good ideas on education, health, propaganda, organisation etc. – and ideals which Hitler does not practise himself."
By:
stewarts rise
When: 11 Jun 20 16:35
The scouts and Boys brigade were great for young people and they learnt a lot, guess it's not what it was years ago now, but most who joined loved it, why take a monument down of someone who gave young people a great way of spending their spare time and taught them so much.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 11 Jun 20 16:35
I didn't say baden Powell was clever,

It's well documented he wanted scouts to be like Hitler youth

Not sure what Hitler views on scouts have to do with it?
By:
edy
When: 11 Jun 20 16:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5b_-TZwQ0I

Does that work btw. in the UK or is it geoblocked?
By:
casemoney
When: 11 Jun 20 16:39


Meanwhile outside Broadcasting house we have statue with a naked boy that was Sculpted by a self confessed Pedo , Given BBC

pedo history why has this not been removed ??

100,000 direct debits cancelled in the last Month , The Clock is ticking Grin
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Jun 20 16:39
The Hitler Youth learned many useful skills for life were well organised and athletic a similar organisation would pay dividends in modern society.
The scouts on the whole were positive
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 11 Jun 20 16:39
It plays in uk
By:
trilby22
When: 11 Jun 20 16:41
BRITISH HISTORY MATTERS!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/i-will-fight-for-him-locals-line-up-to-protect-robert-baden-powell-statue-from-protesters/ar-BB15lqIb

Absolutely and don't you leftie filth forget it Angry
By:
edy
When: 11 Jun 20 16:41
Thanks yhtl. It's two years old, but has him talking about statues and stuff and seems relevant to today.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 11 Jun 20 16:42

It's well documented he wanted scouts to be like Hitler youth


That doesn't mean he was a fan of Hitler does it?
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Jun 20 16:45
is this why hitler youth is trending on twitter today,people eager for info
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 11 Jun 20 16:49
He was promoting Hitler book

As edy said, he went off Hitler a bit
By:
N-east Correspondent
When: 11 Jun 20 16:54
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/20/opinion/scoutings-gay-founder.html

not much in there to suggest he did much wrong he may have been a repressed homosexual so what plenty of men probably were back in the day, nothing about abuse etc, hitler youth approached him about ties to the scouts that never happened


as for the statue outside the BBC - NCCL/LIberty say they dont know what all the fuss is about...
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Jun 20 16:55
went off hitler a bit,thats ok in the same vein few gone off ant and dec a bit, LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 11 Jun 20 16:57
Laugh
By:
nineteen points
When: 11 Jun 20 16:57
we cant go back in history saying this was right or wrong.in that time all different things were acceptable that we would frown upon these days.however they happened so we have to accept it and move on.the worst thing to do is bury it and try to make on it didnt exist.its real life it happened.live and learn.
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Jun 20 16:58
can you tell us the cut of date for people outside of germany ,agreeing with, liking hitler, LaughLaugh
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 11 Jun 20 16:59
Too true, doesn't mean you have keep wearing those flairs you bought in the 70's
By:
nineteen points
When: 11 Jun 20 17:01
i got them of gary glitter. i hope people wont want me thrown in the river.he was a hero back then. funny how things change isnt it.Laugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Jun 20 17:01
seem to remember the right spaffing themselves over ken livingstone hitler comments,poor old ken brexiteers would be building a statue of him today,
wrong place,wrong time LaughLaugh
By:
Just Checking
When: 11 Jun 20 17:07
Karl Marx and Gandhi were apparently both quite racist. Are their statues and commomorations on the commie mob hit list and if not why not?

Though Marx was also an anti-semite so I suppose that's a big plus for Momentum and the hard left.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 11 Jun 20 17:08
British Army Tank Commander 1940 "I wish our tanks were more like the German Panzer tanks".

YHTL and 1st Time Poster 2020. He is clearly a fan of Hitler.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 11 Jun 20 17:10
No he's clearly stating their tanks were better than ours.

Luckily our airplanes were better than our tanks
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