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https://news.sky.com/story/george-floyd-death-nascar-bans-confederate-flag-in-support-of-black-lives-matter-12004529
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https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2020/06/10/nascar-bans-confederate-flag-from-its-races-and-properties/111943956/
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8408245/NASCAR-officially-BANS-Confederate-flag-stadium.html
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Report John.W.Henry. June 11, 2020 6:16 AM BST
This current nonsense is crazy. Shame that most people do not understand who and what they should really be protesting about and against
Report tobermory June 11, 2020 6:38 AM BST
Incredible to me that the confederate flag is all over the place in the USA, and bases named after their generals.

Imagine a Union soldier in early 1865, after years of horrific war, looking ahead 150 years, and seeing these enemy flags everywhere. Would think they must have lost..

Be like having British bases named after Rommel, Manstein et al
Report Crisp77 June 11, 2020 7:08 AM BST
Is it still OK to lust over Daisy Duke?
Report InsiderTrader June 11, 2020 8:50 AM BST
They allow the Union Jack to be flown in despite beating us during the war of independence.

We allow the French Flag to be flown here despite beating them in many wars and being invaded and enslaved by them in 1066.

History is part of all of us.

You can either learn from it warts and all or pretend it never happened.
Report edy June 11, 2020 9:20 AM BST
Not sure if contemporary flags of nation states are a good comparison.

The point about pretending that it never happened couldn't be sillier anyway. Nazi flags aren't flown in Germany on a regular basis and nobody pretends it never happened.

Funny thing is that the flag that's widely used as the confederate flag...was never actually an official flag of the confederates. History and heritage my bum.
Report cooperman June 11, 2020 9:26 AM BST
An indication of just how thick Americans are, flying a flag that was flown by traitors to the USA.
Report dustybin June 11, 2020 9:43 AM BST
You only need to listen to trump and his press speakers to realise how daft the place is.
How can changing the name of a fort undermine the product that comes out of it?
Yeah trump, America ‘won both wars’ on the name on the sign outside.
What a tool.
Report edy June 11, 2020 9:51 AM BST
Trumpers always say nonsense like that. It's like when they stylised NFL players kneeling as being disrespectful towards the flag - when it blatantly wasn't - in an attempt to shut down the peaceful protest that they now claim to be fully supportative of.

It's patriotic correctness in an attempt to shut down debate.
Report Shrewd_dude June 11, 2020 9:54 AM BST
Imagine a Union soldier in early 1865, after years of horrific war, looking ahead 150 years, and seeing these enemy flags everywhere. Would think they must have lost..

Be like having British bases named after Rommel, Manstein et al


It's hardly the same thing comparing a civil war which divivded a nation with a war between nation states. The alternative is you can act oppresively and ban anything that may be seen as a symbol of the other side and have daft situations where national dress and tartan are banned for 36 years.
Report dustybin June 11, 2020 10:50 AM BST
Let’s remember that Britain did lead the way in the abolition of slavery, but in the American Civil War were more aligned with the Confederacy than The Union.
On a number of occasions Britain almost entered the war on the side of the south, on the basis that the rebels had a right to be free (to keep slaves haha what an oxymoron).
But really it was about the supply of cotton, and the resulting cheapness of it being laboured by slaves.
Report cooperman June 11, 2020 11:39 AM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFQAYjzLz-c
Report aaronh June 11, 2020 11:43 AM BST
the free thinkers have been told to get mad about the flag of a bunch of losers that is only flown and celebrated by racists now Sad
Report TheGoldenVision June 11, 2020 11:50 AM BST
Britain almost entered the war on the side of the south, on the basis that the rebels had a right to be free (to keep slaves haha what an oxymoron).

Yet more lies...
Report Just Checking June 11, 2020 12:00 PM BST
I see that bat sh1t stupid SJW **** Pelosi is demanding all statues of confederate politicians are removed from Congress.

It's a world gone mad, it's like the new cultural revolution with these ****s.
Report edy June 11, 2020 12:01 PM BST
mmmm delicous triggered free thinker tears
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 11, 2020 12:06 PM BST
Remove the flag but don't ban the klan!
Report Just Checking June 11, 2020 12:07 PM BST
Karma? One of the statues these knuckle draggers pulled down landed on one of them and now seriously ill in hospital.
It shows the level of genius, you stand directly in front of it pulling it towards you, what do you think will happen?
About the same level of intellect as sitting on a tree branch sawing the tree side.
# of tears wept = 0.
Report macarony June 11, 2020 12:11 PM BST
Is nascar a popular sport among black people
Report mecca June 11, 2020 12:11 PM BST
I did that once.... but realised what I was doing in time. I was quite high up as well.

(Tree.... nor statue)
Report mecca June 11, 2020 12:13 PM BST
not
Report macarony June 11, 2020 12:17 PM BST
The war was actually a war between the states and not a civil war Amercia would on become a single country after the war.
The war comes about because the southern states wanted free trade with the rest of the world but this would have been ruinous for the industrial north
Report edy June 11, 2020 12:17 PM BST
Does Westminster have lots of statues of Scottish leaders that fought in the Scottish Wars of Independence btw.?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 11, 2020 12:19 PM BST
Scotland has a few Australian actor statues these days
Report doridoru June 11, 2020 12:22 PM BST
How soon people forget.  Five years ago the TV networks banned the Dukes of Hazzard because the Duke boys car has a confederate flag painted on the roof.

Then it was "Cops" and Gone with the Wind.

Now they want Paw Patrol taken off TV because the dog is a cop!!
Report Just Checking June 11, 2020 12:31 PM BST
"The war comes about because the southern states wanted free trade with the rest of the world but this would have been ruinous for the industrial north "
Southxit.
Report dustybin June 11, 2020 1:13 PM BST
The British came damn close to going to war with America, and it was the Union that was the focus of that preliminary order to 'attack any America ship where ever it may be' or words to that effect following The Trent Affair.

The Confederacy saw themselves as independent, a point Britain saw as inevitable and continued to trade and supply them.

Britain were more interested in cheap cotton and the continued trade in sugar, thats the top and bottom of it.
Report casemoney June 11, 2020 1:29 PM BST
Progressive Shyte , be fun and Games when the Murder comes out as a Personal Vendetta but of course that will be quickly Ignored
Report edy June 11, 2020 1:30 PM BST
trigger and cause are not always the same thing.
Report edy June 11, 2020 4:43 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5b_-TZwQ0I

Everyone's favourite Englishman two years ago talking about Jimmy Savile, the Confederacy and statues in October 2017.
Report dustybin June 11, 2020 5:36 PM BST
It was clear whos side Britain was really on even though they showed neutrality officially.
They broke Union blockades to supply The Confederacy, strengthened Military in Canada with plans for a Washington invasion incase required and after the Civil War, had to pay The Union compensation for the damage done by the warships they built and supplied for the Rebels.
Report tobermory June 11, 2020 5:40 PM BST
Britain didn't break the Union blockade, that would have been a war declaration.
Report SontaranStratagem June 11, 2020 5:41 PM BST
They want to get you out in the streets so they can have their cop mobsters kick the living daylights out of you

Organising a "protest" and telling them where you're going to be, what time you're going to be there and sticking everyone in a little area of London (Like Tommys doing at the weekend) ??? these people will not fight you in a straight up fist fight ffs, they are goading you into taking to the streets where they have you in open

Its lulling you tactics 101 ffs
Report tobermory June 11, 2020 5:43 PM BST

Jun 11, 2020 -- 9:54AM, Shrewd_dude wrote:


Imagine a Union soldier in early 1865, after years of horrific war, looking ahead 150 years, and seeing these enemy flags everywhere. Would think they must have lost..Be like having British bases named after Rommel, Manstein et al It's hardly the same thing comparing a civil war which divivded a nation with a war between nation states. The alternative is you can act oppresively and ban anything that may be seen as a symbol of the other side and have daft situations where national dress and tartan are banned for 36 years.


It was only the Union that saw it is a civil war though. From the perspective of the Confederacy, the USA was a foreign country that they had secceded

Report tobermory June 11, 2020 5:44 PM BST
*seceded from
Report dustybin June 11, 2020 5:46 PM BST
The British financed the blockade runners of the Confederacy.
Report macarony June 11, 2020 5:48 PM BST
Imagine the union soldier looking out to today and knowing the people he fought and died for have never shown a grain of gratitude. The war to this day was Americas biggest loss of life per percentage of population
Report macarony June 11, 2020 5:48 PM BST
According to the beard of knowledge on porn stars
Report Escapee June 11, 2020 6:35 PM BST
BREAKING NEWS

Nascar have decided not to ban all the confederate flags, they have reached a compromise where they
fly the white flag of confederate surrender on the penultimate lap to signal the last lap of the race.

True story
Report SontaranStratagem June 11, 2020 6:55 PM BST
The people making these decisions aren't nationalists and have been put in their positions by the higher elites, none of them were "elected" at all and has such should be politely told to get out and if that doesn't shift them, head in there tooled to the facking eye balls and ask them firmly one last time to get the fack out, if they dare to question that order well.. drag them out by their facking necks and string them up. The end of any aggro.
Report SontaranStratagem June 11, 2020 6:58 PM BST
Give them a chance to get out, law of the land and all that

But if they refuse, quickly make an informed decision to pause the law and use perpetual violence to shift them before un-pausing the pausing of the law

These people are beyond being reasoned with now and they because they don't like a fair fight well then its time to fight them at their own game isn't it, and they're none to bright so it shouldn't be difficult
Report Cardinal Scott June 11, 2020 7:00 PM BST
Public Symbols of The Confederacy in the US

Report Cardinal Scott June 11, 2020 7:02 PM BST
If Sontaran had been around in 1938 he would have declared war on Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco & FDR from his armchair, all on the same day.
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