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Coronavirus: Number of deaths 'could have been halved if lockdown introduced a week earlier'
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-number-of-deaths-could-have-been-halved-if-lockdown-introduced-a-week-earlier-12004222

Coronavirus deaths could have been reduced "by at least half" if the UK had gone into lockdown a week earlier, one of government's former key advisers has told MPs.

Professor Neil Ferguson, of London's Imperial College, said he believed the right decisions were taken by ministers over COVID-19 but questioned whether they were taken at the right time.

He told the House of Commons science committee of MPs: "The epidemic was doubling every three to four days before lockdown interventions were introduced.

"So, had we introduced lockdown measures a week earlier, we would have reduced the final toll by at least a half.

"Whilst I think the measures, given what we knew about this virus then in terms of its transmission and its lethality, were warranted - I wouldn't second-guess them at this point - certainly had we introduced them earlier, we would have seen many fewer deaths."

Prof Ferguson said he estimated that the number of deaths directly caused by coronavirus would be more than 50,000, meaning 25,000 lives could have been saved by going into lockdown a week earlier.

In March, Prof Ferguson estimated that the pandemic would cause at most 20,000 deaths.

He told MPs that scientists had "underestimated how far into the epidemic this country was" in March.

He also said government advisers did not anticipate how high deaths in care homes would be, as they acted on the assumption that residents would be shielded.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced lockdown measures on March 23.

Prof Ferguson played a leading role in advising the government during the early stages of the pandemic, before being forced to leave the scientific advisory group SAGE after being caught breaking lockdown rules.

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By:
Angoose
When: 10 Jun 20 16:58
Guaranteed to come up in the daily briefing just about to start .....
By:
Angoose
When: 10 Jun 20 17:00
Witty and Valance alongside Johnson.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 10 Jun 20 17:01
Err its Ferguson the man who is often out by two decimal places. Anyway this is a long game and we may end up doing better than other countries in the long term. Only a fool would attempt to rate countries efforts at present.
By:
1st time poster
When: 10 Jun 20 17:02
doris biggest problem is in 4 years time,he didn't want to be on show this GE,by next GE he,ll be needing William hague,s baseball cap,doris doesn't look like been the type to embrace a number 1 or 2,like his oven ready Brexit deal there,s nothing underneath
By:
saddo
When: 10 Jun 20 17:02
He just wanted to post the bit in bold type, yet again. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
By:
Dotchinite
When: 10 Jun 20 17:02
There was another Professor yesterday suggesting lockdown may have cost 600,000 lives. Choose your expert that suits your agenda but its all just opinion.
By:
Charlie
When: 10 Jun 20 17:03

Jun 10, 2020 -- 5:01PM, Dotchinite wrote:


Err its Ferguson the man who is often out by two decimal places. Anyway this is a long game and we may end up doing better than other countries in the long term. Only a fool would attempt to rate countries efforts at present.


I can't help but wonder if Ferguson advised Doris. And did Doris take his advice?

By:
Angoose
When: 10 Jun 20 17:05

Jun 10, 2020 -- 5:02PM, Dotchinite wrote:


There was another Professor yesterday suggesting lockdown may have cost 600,000 lives. Choose your expert that suits your agenda but its all just opinion.


Indeed Dotch, more expert opinions than you can shake a stick at and they can't all be right.

By:
Charlie
When: 10 Jun 20 17:05

Jun 10, 2020 -- 5:02PM, Dotchinite wrote:


There was another Professor yesterday suggesting lockdown may have cost 600,000 lives. Choose your expert that suits your agenda but its all just opinion.


That's a lot of deaths.

By:
Dotchinite
When: 10 Jun 20 17:11
Better just to look at the facts about those who have died from it ( or rather with it which means our figures are somewhat overstated). That tells you clearly that this is a nothing illness for most and its time we just got on with things and let the vulnerable isolate if they choose so.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Jun 20 17:15
He's just announced a load of stuff that everybody already knew...
By:
Dotchinite
When: 10 Jun 20 17:17
Johnson is an idiot prattling on about bubbles that most of us have been doing for months.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Jun 20 17:19
Shhh, don't tell him dotch..
By:
1st time poster
When: 10 Jun 20 17:19
we already knew it but todays numbers 1st time you can really see most deaths happening outside of hospitals
By:
Angoose
When: 10 Jun 20 17:26

Jun 10, 2020 -- 5:15PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


He's just announced a load of stuff that everybody already knew...


Dressing up re-announcements as new announcements is a feature of this administration

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 10 Jun 20 17:29
Ferguson still commenting. Unbelievable given all the mistakes he has made.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Jun 20 17:29
After he was shown up at pmqs again

BBC laura was spinning for tories about a raft of new annoucements at 5pm

Is that it


ffs
By:
Angoose
When: 10 Jun 20 17:31

Jun 10, 2020 -- 5:29PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


Ferguson still commenting. Unbelievable given all the mistakes he has made.


He was invited to attend in front of the select committee

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 10 Jun 20 17:32
Indeed. Imperial College kept him on also.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 10 Jun 20 17:32
Does anyone know someone who dosent live with their partner who took any notice of the lockdown rules for more than 2 or 3 days. These questions cant be from real people can they? This is just all total rubbish.
By:
Angoose
When: 10 Jun 20 17:33
He was following his instinct.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 10 Jun 20 17:33
Boris asked now
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 10 Jun 20 17:34
I do think Dorris Day’s ( Laugh ) are numbered.

If the scheming Mp’s don’t knife him on the altar of ambition, the Suits will get him for turning to socialism or Industry will get him for doing them up the Khyber

Imho he is gawn and Sushi Bumcrack is the favourite to replace him.
By:
Angoose
When: 10 Jun 20 17:38
Aye, Johnson will be regretting handing the keys to No.11 to Little Rishi
By:
Dotchinite
When: 10 Jun 20 17:39
Even reached the point now where schools not certain to be open in September. A total **** joke this country is.Run by idiots for the short term benefit of cowards and what a price the younger generation are going to pay. Shameful.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 10 Jun 20 17:41
Ferguson's model given way too much power by SAGE. His model was nonsense. Check the code. Oh sorry you cannot because he refused to publish the source code.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 10 Jun 20 17:42
Disgraceful question misquoting the Swedish guy.
By:
Angoose
When: 10 Jun 20 17:45

Jun 10, 2020 -- 5:41PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


Ferguson's model given way too much power by SAGE. His model was nonsense. Check the code. Oh sorry you cannot because he refused to publish the source code.


There were two models, both produced similar results.
The Times article that you refused to acknowledge detailed them.

By:
Angoose
When: 10 Jun 20 17:46

Jun 10, 2020 -- 5:42PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


Disgraceful question misquoting the Swedish guy.


Aren't you, on occasion, guilty of misquoting Confused

By:
Angoose
When: 10 Jun 20 17:48
Very fond of whacking moles, isn't he.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 10 Jun 20 17:51

Jun 10, 2020 -- 5:46PM, Angoose wrote:


Jun 10, 2020 --  4:42PM, InsiderTrader wrote:Disgraceful question misquoting the Swedish guy.Aren't you, on occasion, guilty of misquoting


Tegnell has since clarified his position. Remember you pal Ferguson said Sweden achieved the same as the UK without the need for lockdown. Kids in Sweden not missed a day of school. No last generation there.

By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Jun 20 17:52
What do you do if you want to see your pardnt and your partners parent

Do I have to chose one to include in my bubble

Or can I declare my dad as an optician and get an eye test on route to mother in laws?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Jun 20 17:52
Parent
By:
11kv
When: 10 Jun 20 17:53
ffs when are the Barbers opening again and where is Boris getting his haircut?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 10 Jun 20 17:54
No question yet on advise for BLM protestors.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 10 Jun 20 17:55
Taxi for Johnson


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG3wSRrOp8g
By:
Angoose
When: 10 Jun 20 17:56
That wasn't very nice.
By:
nineteen points
When: 10 Jun 20 18:09
floundering i think is the word
By:
nineteen points
When: 10 Jun 20 18:14
schools have gone from 1st june to "hopefully" september. you can tell in his voice he is "gone".totally at sea.
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