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impossible123
08 Jun 20 15:32
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I lived in Elsham Rd just off Holland Park Avenue in the late 90's, and only a few doors from Vanessa Mae - the violinist. And, at the bottom of the road just around the corner Mr Michael Winner had been frequently seen giving restaurant reviews to food journalists. This was a nicer side of the area.

The other side where Shepherds Bush Theatre and Post Office were was rather unpleasant and littered with takeaway plastic and food waste; night time could be sleazy with drug taking and dealing not uncommon.   

Not set foot since, but driven past a couple of times and it looked cleaner, more respectable and gentrified.
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Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 4:08 PM BST
Hey case, I used to drink in the Sun, and the Eagle at the weekends, I also ran a football team out of the Orhard, the Travellers Rest for pool. The only pub I didn't like was the Askew arms.

The chippy was run by chinese, great quality, good service as soon as you got to the counter you would hear ro you wan, fit and chih, you wan warry (wallie)Laugh.
the other chippy was next to the Sun run by brothers from Cyprus, two great chippys four great pubs in Askew road, the Sun public bar was full of Dubs.

I was a Governor at St Stevens primary school just off the Askew rd. A fulham bookie, John Manly had a shop next to the chippy, no problem gettin hundreds on. the most I had on with him was £400 on a winner at Chelts 7/2, I think it was the County Hurdle the horse was Floyd. Happy days. Love
Report Gin June 8, 2020 4:38 PM BST
I used to drink a lot in the Bushranger pub in the 90's - A decent old-style boozer with sawdust on the floor.

I think it got turned into a "trendy wine bar"...........Cry
Report Gin June 8, 2020 4:39 PM BST
By Goldhawk Rd tube.
Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 4:53 PM BST
I know it Gin My first flat was in Pennard Mansions about 50 yards away, bit I would not have remembered the name. Wink
Report Gin June 8, 2020 5:44 PM BST
It was a great Sunday afternoon pub! - Happy Days....

I used to live just off Uxbridge Rd by S Bush Tube (H&C line).
Report 1st time poster June 8, 2020 5:47 PM BST
sunday afternoon pubs are the best in the world,any mug can fill a pub fri/sat  night
Report casemoney June 8, 2020 6:48 PM BST
Drank in all of them lads , Proper boozers back in the day , not all these Gastro and one wine w@nker establishments we have these days

I bet you lads had a Bit of Grub in the Cafe Rest on occasions ?? Grin Cookes Pie and Mash and the Zippy Grill Laugh

The lot has gone last I heard , not been down for a few years ,Uxbridge Road was Like Mogadishu last Time I was there ...
Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 7:09 PM BST
Cafe Rest, Love
Report Gin June 8, 2020 7:12 PM BST
I don't remember actually eating in the places you mention but do remember them.

I just looked on Google street view - The Bushranger is a Costa Coffee now! CryCry
Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 7:19 PM BST
Just had a look myself Gin, when did that part of Goldhawk become fabric central?
Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 7:21 PM BST
case, I bet Mogadishu is safer Cry
Report unitedbiscuits June 8, 2020 7:31 PM BST
Well, to put it in context, murders were going on there forty years ago but..

Cafe Rest? Was that the greasy spoon on the corner of Goldhawk Road? The owner was a mad dogs man. Greek I think. Good grub too.

I remember when The Springbok, opposite White City, was a rough, rough Irish pub; before it became a BBC hangout. Stan Bowles used to go in the Hills opposite.
Report casemoney June 8, 2020 7:47 PM BST
Spot on UB drank in trhe Bok as well , Stan did too and used the Hills as you say ..

Louis was Manager/owner  of the rest he spent half the day in Hills Down the Road Laugh
Report unitedbiscuits June 8, 2020 8:12 PM BST
Louis, that's the cafe owner, quite right, casemoney.

And the manager of the Hills shop on Goldhawk Rd was Barry.
Report unitedbiscuits June 8, 2020 8:15 PM BST
That was two worlds ago..that whole area has gone through transformations. Not visited for years.
Report casemoney June 8, 2020 9:15 PM BST
I think the Market has Gone or is Going , same not been for years .....
Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 9:32 PM BST
Not been for 40 years, It's unrecognisable on Google Earth. Sad

I've great memories of the Goldhawk social club, saw many great acts there the Who played there a lot, they were crap back then. One bad memory got stabbed in the Goldhawk rd by 5/6 brave Jamican lads, I was (honorary) captian of an all Jamacian team at the time my team mates went to Ladbroke grove and sorted them out!. I got a lot of stick from opposing teams at the time as you can imagine.Laugh
Report unitedbiscuits June 8, 2020 9:44 PM BST
When I was around, the White City Irish community was being overtaken by the West Indian but large areas soon after fell under the influence of the BBC and pubs changed to fern bars. There were always a lot of winos on the Green.
Report casemoney June 8, 2020 9:49 PM BST
Yes City ,was Irish and West indian mainly, we all got along back in the Day from what I can remember, used to be the Odd Punch up

Cant remember anyone being stabbed or Shot ,was a different era Tbh ....I dont really remember too much drugs on the estate ...
Report unitedbiscuits June 8, 2020 9:52 PM BST
A faint, safer echo of your experience, boxingthefox: I was arguing with a black man in front of his friends, trying to take the heat out of it by acting cool because he had a brick in his hand; but when I took my hand out of my pocket to make a point, all his friends moved half a step back. Nothing happened but, afterwards, one of his friends advised me never to take my hand out of my pocket unless I was holding a knife!
Report casemoney June 8, 2020 9:56 PM BST
Biggest Disaster was when they closed the stadium Sadloved the place LoveCry
Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 10:04 PM BST
Luckly for me UB that back then (1963) they wanted to 'cut you' and not kill you, irony of ironies, the only Jamican doctor I have ever met treated me and and applied stitches, in Hammersmith hospital Du cane rd. He did a great job.
Report unitedbiscuits June 8, 2020 10:04 PM BST
Long wooden benches on the terraces..Sat Night dogs.
Who was the bookie with the microphone taking four figure bets most races? Ivor Morris?
Report unitedbiscuits June 8, 2020 10:07 PM BST
Bloody hell boxingthefox! Some experience.
Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 10:08 PM BST
Loved the White City dogs, also Stamford Bridge BAGS meetings, Dagenham, Wembly, etc, etc, went to all of them. Stan would be at the White city doing his wages, terrible gambler in every sense of the word.
Report unitedbiscuits June 8, 2020 10:10 PM BST
Petulant, wasn't he.
Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 10:11 PM BST

Jun 8, 2020 -- 10:07PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


Bloody hell boxingthefox! Some experience.


They (who are they?) say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, I never felt stronger after that. Laugh
Yeah he was like a big kid really.

Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 10:19 PM BST
Stan, ^^^
Report casemoney June 8, 2020 11:43 PM BST
Ike Morris  I believe UB , his son took the Business over Tony , sadly also passed away now Sad
Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 11:56 PM BST
I remember John white as a 'fearless' bookie, who would 'stand' any bet I took £1500 quid from him in Sandown 1963 Gave it back to him at Stamford bridge dogs, the folling night, what a plank was I, could have brought a property with that. If I could go back and all that Shocked
Report boxingthefox June 8, 2020 11:57 PM BST
followingGrin
Report casemoney June 9, 2020 12:04 AM BST
Mad times Box won a grand at Wembley one St leger final Night was  , From fook all LaughProbably back to Square one a month later

Think I was earning 30 quid a week at the Time PMSFL Grin Not a care in the world Money meant nothing was like a game
Report boxingthefox June 9, 2020 12:06 AM BST
Ditto, case. Laugh There are no pockets in a shoud. Shocked
Report boxingthefox June 9, 2020 12:32 AM BST
My father was a well known figure in Irish racing, he phoned me up one night to collect him and his 'mate' from Heathrow as they wanted to go to the evening meeting at Windsor on their way back from the French Gold cup.

Well I duly picked them up and took them there, his 'mate' was met by 'commissiom agents' when we got there, he was a well known 'gambling bookie' and before the race he asked me and my dad if we had a fancy in the race so if was the same as his to get on before his bet, if . I said no as I was skint  after a bad run. The horse won (name escapes me) and went from 6/1 to 6/4 in seconds unusual even in them days, so fook knows how much he had on.

Well I took them back to Heathrow for their flight to Dublin and the mean bastard never even said 'here's a fiver for petrol' Gladly that whas the last time I was in the company of that tight Limerick coont, J. P. McManus.
Report macarony June 9, 2020 12:40 AM BST
This thread reminds me of a couple of episodes of Steptoe and son
Report casemoney June 9, 2020 12:59 AM BST
LaughPmsfl BOX unreal
Report casemoney June 9, 2020 1:01 AM BST
What happened to the Opening post FFS Laugh
Report boxingthefox June 9, 2020 1:05 AM BST
Case, The **** JP would have been lost if his mother hadn't bailed him out on 2 occasions.
Report impossible123 June 9, 2020 11:00 AM BST
'casemoney', I've been meaning to ask that for a while. Looks like it's been hijacked, not my doing, I can assure you.
Report casemoney June 9, 2020 12:49 PM BST
Removed for some reason , not sure why tbh
Report macarony June 9, 2020 1:20 PM BST
Censorship I had a post removed when I named two London Police officers that had been killed both called Keith
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