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BARROWBOY
07 Jun 20 18:23
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Reconstruction on C4 tonight.dont think I’ve ever seen it discussed on here.anyone got any theories about what really happened?

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By:
1st time poster
When: 07 Jun 20 18:27
blokes saying he,s innocent,dodgy evidence allegedly
By:
BARROWBOY
When: 07 Jun 20 18:38
Think the implication in the programme will be that the fella they imprisoned was a fall guy to tidy up the crime so it didn’t affect the tourist industry.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 07 Jun 20 19:50
I am looking forward to it.

Another case where public opinion was very much played by newspapers.

Will be nice to watch without bias other than that
I thought him guilty.

Chance, hopefully to see both sides without court rulings
On evidence.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 07 Jun 20 23:24
Good start

Part 2 tomorrow I think.
By:
Des Pond
When: 08 Jun 20 01:33
A very flimsy piece of documentary that offers no new evidence or information about the tragic case of the disappearance of Peter Falconio in 2001. The main protagonist is disgraced former lawyer and ex con, who seems to have had a habit, in the past, of "befriending" notorius killers in prison, and trying to make money out of them. The programme consists mainly of Andrew Fraser (the ex-laywer in question) speculating about what he thinks "could have happened", with a few equally woolly contributions form the truck driver who found Joanne Lees and doesn't know any more than he was able to tell the court at the time, and a bloke who coud most accurately be described as "one of Fraser's mates". There are another 3 episodes of this to come. And I for one won't be wasting my time  on them.
By:
BARROWBOY
When: 08 Jun 20 08:53
If you re going to pick holes in Joanna lees s account then it’s got to be that she reckoned she was hiding for 5 hours & the murderers dog couldn’t find her.thats difficult to believe.
By:
Fire-and-Ice
When: 08 Jun 20 11:58
The first episode was a rough overview of what happened and left a cliff-hanger at the end.
It's obvious we will get down to the nitty-gritty in the next 3 episodes.
By:
Baphornet
When: 08 Jun 20 12:26
ye can watch the remaining episodes now on catch up, if you're inclined to
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Jun 20 12:29
Mrs wants to watch em on tv, so I shall struggle through.

The struck off lawyer seems hell bent on creating reasonable doubt

But if he wants an appeal he will need lots more than that
By:
Baphornet
When: 08 Jun 20 12:38
watched the 1st ep this morning & the lorry drivers 'new evidence' chat, looks pushed
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Jun 20 12:42
Could have been a different bloke, f words all over.

Had he taken something?


They didn't clarify, unless I missed it, how far away from
crime scene was the guy driving wrecklessly.
By:
Fire-and-Ice
When: 08 Jun 20 12:42
Thanks Bap.
By:
Baphornet
When: 08 Jun 20 12:44
not a bother

i was gonna say i've never seen a witness so stoned
By:
Fire-and-Ice
When: 08 Jun 20 12:44
I did think last night that the lawyer was unlawyerly with his language, to the point of crude.
Rumpole would've blushed
By:
Baphornet
When: 08 Jun 20 12:50
a convicted druggie interviewing a stoned/ill witness would never look good tbh, Fire
By:
RoyClaytonsTash
When: 08 Jun 20 21:56
I'm nearly always in favour of the trial being correct,but this one is highly suspect
Lees seems far from trustworthy ,very cold and almost detached. Murdochs conviction starting to look a bit suspect.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Jun 20 22:03
Saw episode 2

Shes not a brilliant witness.

Still no rebuttal of dna evidence


Pretting damming that the dna on her shirt links to a guy who
had recently had abduction case against him dropped.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Jun 20 22:04
Saw episode 2

Shes not a brilliant witness.

Still no rebuttal of dna evidence


Pretting damming that the dna on her shirt links to a guy who
had recently had abduction case against him dropped.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 08 Jun 20 22:05
Only watched it once...
By:
BARROWBOY
When: 09 Jun 20 06:50
Watched all the episodes last night.cant make my mind up whether she’s deliberately being vague & evasive or just plain stupid.the spot of dna could have been explained by them visiting the same cafe that morning,a re-enactment of the crime scene from lees version of events suggested that she should have had far more of his dna on her clothing than a tiny spot.she d also been ******** another bloke in Sydney prior to them setting off.plenty of alarm bells ringing about the validity of her story..
By:
Fire-and-Ice
When: 09 Jun 20 14:27
Lees has a lot of holes in her story/demeanor.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Jun 20 14:36
Don't really matter how small the dna was.

It would be up to defence to explain where it came from.

Without explanation he's rather nailed.
By:
Fire-and-Ice
When: 09 Jun 20 14:39
The dna issue is addressed in part 4.
I won't spoil it for you
By:
Baphornet
When: 09 Jun 20 14:57
i've watched just the 2; & i now remember what i found so intriguing about the case. Lees norks! No surprise someone else was getting a portion, as she does come across as a dominating type
By:
Fire-and-Ice
When: 09 Jun 20 15:05
yeah, what a minx. that top she wore in her 2nd press interview was so out of place.
bunny boiler potential aplenty with her
Also wonder how much life insurance was paid out and who got it?
By:
Baphornet
When: 09 Jun 20 15:11
also did anyone else find the holding hands bits with the deceased bro, unsettling?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Jun 20 15:13
I didn't find it unsettling but I did note it as a bit odd
By:
Baphornet
When: 09 Jun 20 15:16
probably the wrong word, Donny. Unseemly maybe better
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Jun 20 15:26
I guess the idea of the program is to get us to examine her
and not murdoch.
By:
Baphornet
When: 09 Jun 20 15:39
well it's either Murdoch or she knows more, can't see anyone else being turned up. Dunno whether she's just a bit thick; or very devious
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Jun 20 21:47
Some other bloke in the frame that they can't find

Then he's not even dead, it's an insurance scam.

Must be leaving dna for climax...
By:
Baphornet
When: 10 Jun 20 15:15
getting more suspicious about the bro
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Jun 20 22:03
4 hours

Well done to lawyer selling this to chanel 4 for money

Nothing there for me, lots of carefully worded smoke screens.

Dna still nails him
By:
tobermory
When: 10 Jun 20 22:20
Yeah

'There should have been more dna'

Well if Murdoch didn't do it there shouldn't be any. The sat in the same bar seat hours apart to explain the DNA on the shirt seemed desperate straw clutching. Also a remarkable coincidence that Murdoch had been put on the radar by someone who knew him before the DNA was tested. 

I would say Lees seemed more suspicious than I recalled at the time though. Thought she had just been not media friendly, but she seemed actually quite indifferent to the whole business. It would be odd if the only footprints off road were hers, though I didn't hear the police say that was the case.

I just can't see what motive she had to be involved. If she wanted to leave the guy then just leave him, rather than dream up some epic murder mystery that has a lot of ways to go wrong.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Jun 20 22:32
Oh he did a good job highlighting inconsistencies, especially in Lees.
and he may well have got murdoch off if he was his trial
lawyer and there was no dna
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 10 Jun 20 22:34
He made no attempt to interview murdoch drug partner that
named murdoch as a suspect.
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