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geordie1956
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The UK's largest car manufacturing plant is "unsustainable" if the UK leaves the European Union without a trade deal, owner Nissan says.

The Japanese company's global chief operating head told the BBC people had to understand the EU was the Sunderland factory's biggest customer.

Ashwani Gupta said that Nissan's commitment could not be maintained if there was not tariff-free EU access.

Nissan has invested billions of pounds in the plant, which has 7,000 workers.

His comments come despite the Sunderland site surviving this week's announcement on the Japanese giant's global restructuring programme.

Mr Gupta said: "You know we are the number one carmaker in the UK and we want to continue. We are committed. Having said that, if we are not getting the current tariffs, it's not our intention but the business will not be sustainable. That's what everybody has to understand."
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Report morpteh mackem June 3, 2020 8:53 AM BST
just been reading this, sounds a bit ominous.
Report geordie1956 June 3, 2020 8:58 AM BST
my sympathy lies with those who voted remain but may lose their jobs
Report morpteh mackem June 3, 2020 9:08 AM BST
aye, dont think people understood ramifications of voting leave. still haven't left though. time yet Mischief
Report GAZO June 3, 2020 9:19 AM BST
the eu will collapse before nissan leave
Report 1st time poster June 3, 2020 9:51 AM BST
Nissan arnt stupid close a factory in spain onw week,this statement week after,and in between brexiteers shouting from the roof tops about nisaan,s decision,doris and co will pay whatever it takes to keep Nissan here and nissan no it
Report saddo June 3, 2020 10:41 AM BST
geordie1956 03 Jun 20 07:58 
my sympathy lies with those who voted remain but may lose their jobs




I sense the the inference is that you will be pleased - or at least unmoved- about those who voted leave losing their jobs. I will have sympathy for all of them.
That is the difference between leavers and remainers, the latter are too bitter to want to help the whole country along.
Report nineteen points June 3, 2020 11:29 AM BST
yes and the formers are iam all right jack feck you mate believers
Report geordie1956 June 3, 2020 11:30 AM BST
the people will get what they voted for ...
Report A_T June 3, 2020 11:32 AM BST
I sense the the inference is that you will be pleased - or at least unmoved- about those who voted leave losing their jobs. I will have sympathy for all of them.

that's called guilt not sympathy
Report saddo June 3, 2020 11:36 AM BST
Listen to you lot, 4 years and still seething, will you sulk til you all die ffs?  Crazy
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 3, 2020 11:48 AM BST
Hopefully we get a deal sorted that allows Nissan to flourish

The jobs have been vital to North east

Don't care who they voted for,or how they voted in brexit vote, priority should be to
protect these vital jobs, and all the supply chain jobs, and all the jobs supported
by Nissan workers spending their cash.
Report 1st time poster June 3, 2020 11:50 AM BST
free money for watching tv,sunbathing
watching priti meet and greet migrants at dover
free flights for fruit pickers
end of austerity
record borrowing
pay rises for public sector worker,s
appearance of magic money tree
4/5 million unemployed
doris proven to be out of his depth in a paddling pool,
open invitation to 3 million from hong kong

think its the right who should be seething, LaughLaugh
leftie utopia LaughLaugh,

and of course the joy of the right trying to defend all of the above,plus lots more LaughLaugh,
no seething here
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 3, 2020 11:53 AM BST
You missed out the seething from 40 odd years of beneficial membership of eec /eu
that has brought opportunities to generations of our citizens.
Report flushgordon1 June 3, 2020 12:00 PM BST
There has been no real benefits and some substantial disadvantages stop trying to peddle **** Donny.

https://www.civitas.org.uk/publications/wheres-the-insider-advantage/
Report saddo June 3, 2020 12:14 PM BST
Those 6 smilies have indeed convinced me you are not seething 1tp.
Report TheBetterBettor June 3, 2020 12:56 PM BST
saddo

those who voted leave losing their jobs...


Don't worry...plenty of jobs for the leavers to pick the strawberries for my tea... cos I aint doing it.
Report nineteen points June 3, 2020 1:16 PM BST
trump blaming the press,cummings blames the press.hhmmm, coincidence? or the lying mans way out?
Report saddo June 3, 2020 1:20 PM BST
Or the truth about press with political agendas?
Report nineteen points June 3, 2020 1:25 PM BST
how can they cry about the press when they have used them all their lives to push their own agendas? live by the sword die by the sword
Report geordie1956 June 3, 2020 1:28 PM BST
most of the press is friendly to right wing dogma with a heavy political slant in that direction
Report saddo June 3, 2020 1:36 PM BST
But The Guardian is firmly leftist, yet with it's tiny readership it has massive influence over BBC news content which is paid for by us all and presumably supposed to represent us all. It does not.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 3, 2020 1:57 PM BST
Bbc don't seem to investigate much, maybe Derbyshire does.


You are correct, imo, in that they re report other stories.

That they parrot the bias in those stories is to their discredit, be it left or right bias.



They should start from point of neutrality, and end at point of neutrality.


They can hold left right and center to account whilst giving balanced and reasoned arguments.


BBC have lost it, imo, by trying to spread their jam and butter too thinly
and taking bread and jam from suppliers with agendas to peddle


Pretty much think they have passed their sell by date and should be cut loose from state funding.

Sink or swim time
Report nineteen points June 3, 2020 2:06 PM BST
if you seriously think the bbc favours labour then you are in trouble.have you ever watched a tory politician being interviewed? its embarrassing. they interrogate 6yo harder about their homework. minchin is cringeworthy
Report flushgordon1 June 3, 2020 2:11 PM BST
What a load of pish, the Brussels Broadcasting Collaboration has been lefty and right on for years now.
Report casemoney June 3, 2020 2:11 PM BST
What they going to do go Back to Spain ?? More remoaner rubbish , As Per .. 

The Brexit vote for leave was massive in Sunderland ............

As for the BBC the clock is ticking , About the only balanced reporting is provided by the World Service and that is from all Sides
Report saddo June 3, 2020 2:25 PM BST
Very fair of donny given his political leanings. A publication that can only get 120k people to buy it should not be feeding their stuff to 70 milion people through the BBC.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 3, 2020 2:30 PM BST
The vacuum left by not having good journalists at BBC has allowed others to feed in their own stories.

You can also see BBC news at weekends is heavily biased to foreign news where
Maybe they do still have some decent journalists

They really are in quite a state, and if they are not to be scrapped need a top down review, but I doubt anybody neutral could be found to do that.
Report breadnbutter June 3, 2020 3:08 PM BST
The Sunderland Nissan thing.

Phurzt :car manufacturing was on a very shoogly peg long before brexit, the truth was neatly hidden, the only reason I am writing this is because the header is still calling nissan the Japanese giant, which is false as nissan and  Renault are nearly inseparable and o e and the same. The entire sector has been at a crossroads technological, the ban on new diesel cars was quickly swept under the carpet as was the fact nissan/Renault was one and the same, don't forget the EU is basically VAG group driven, Renault hangs onto the coat tails and its collaberation with nissan is mirried in confusion.
Most likely it's all about tax and access to EU markets and trying to take on VAG groups iron grip.

The facts are simple, technology has moved but greedy car manufacturers don't like change, they care not a jot for pollution, health and the environment.

So it was all a used as a smokescreen by the infiltrated corupt anti brexit media (BBC ect)

Strangely the thing I can't get away from is Nissan is a good brand, the cars are designed as right hand drive, which in case your not aware a right hand drive is designed with a specific gear box for left hand use, the steering suspension, switchgear, wipers ect ect is not an afterthought when it comes to RHD as is every European car.

The Japanese stuff can be built here using the same template as is used in Japan, everything the same and sold to a RHD market, us the UK.
Makes a lot of sense for Nissan to continue manufacturing in UK imo, should not take too much to see they do, obviously the  Renault factor is the prob. Nissan getting involved with Renault will prove to be a massive mistake but that's another thing.

Err who would of thunk it the Germans and Japanese fighting for world domination of car industry.Cant blame the frenchies for jumping into bed with the Japanese.

Can we not reinvent a wee cheap n cheerful all electric wee car and chase the lot of them, anyone being fooled by the retro fitting of existing cars with electric motors, like the vw golf ect needs to give themselves a shake, the body is too heavy, its old hat we need new design and innovation, good time to get involved again.

We need all new design , from chasis up, light weight material, non metal. Let the current dynasores dissappear for good.

The entire nissan Sunderland thing was a fabricated MSM story, plant was already closing. Its all about German cars v the rest.

Can't believe the French are still making cars and we ain't,sticks in the craw. They are without doubt the biggest piles of sheet ever driven but still they sell in this country, ffs even the Italians are still in the game, the fiat 500, seems a very popular car in UK, a wee very dear cheapncheerful....innit.
Report saddo June 3, 2020 3:29 PM BST
I love the look of the 500, beautiful in it's simplicity. A modern design classic imo. (not the enlarged one though, horrible)
Report breadnbutter June 3, 2020 3:50 PM BST
https://youtu.be/TrehtU4a0ao
Report saddo June 3, 2020 3:54 PM BST
I think that one is accepted as an established design classic, shame about what was under the design. I am told the new one is based on a Ford KA underneath?
Report breadnbutter June 3, 2020 4:07 PM BST
Not sure but they are very popular and you can spend nearly 30k on one.
Will try and find out, tbh I once owned one of the old ones, done the job a to b but had to endure a fair bit of ridicule, remember going to a pub out of town, big beer garden, four mates in car, there was roars of laughter as we got out, that day quickly turned bad,it was a too much for one of the company and his ego got better of him,quickest bar brawl in history ExcitedLaugh them were the days Grin. Rem retreating down the road in the wee 500 to shouts of put the foot down from the back as we were pursued by an angry drunken country yokel pitchfork mob.
Report breadnbutter June 3, 2020 4:11 PM BST
Wurstest car was a citroen Diane, never owned one of them, fckers never even had door handles on inside
Report saddo June 3, 2020 4:14 PM BST
I once rented one in Majorca. Couldn't get the fecker in second gear going up and down them hairpin bends on the west coast. When we stopped for a jump across the front seats we had to open both doors. Worst car I've ever driven I think.
Report saddo June 3, 2020 4:14 PM BST
^ that was a 500
Report breadnbutter June 3, 2020 4:20 PM BST
Yea, not exactly a shagin wagon
Report flushgordon1 June 3, 2020 4:27 PM BST
The Micra!!!
Report 1st time poster June 3, 2020 4:30 PM BST
bluebird big ugly looking thing,remember when workers ,relatives of workers were getting a 3rd off,very popular in N EAST
Report macarony June 3, 2020 4:32 PM BST
Actions speak louder than words all the new investment as gone ton Sunderland and only last week Nissan announced the closure of their plant in Barcelona there is also talk of ****some Renault production to Sunderland if there are trade tariffs and delays at the ports. This sounds like the BBC asking questions in order to stir up trouble
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 3, 2020 4:34 PM BST
Our area is pumped full of Nissans as folk support the workers of NE

Can't see folk buying imported Nissans if Sunderland plant closes
Report nineteen points June 3, 2020 4:39 PM BST
haha lets blame the press again.its all their fault.just ask donald
Report breadnbutter June 3, 2020 7:09 PM BST
No the press and MSM completey spun the Sunderland plant pre and post brexit, Fact.
The big picture of the plant already being wound down and closed was ignored, so was the fact that ICE had already been given a death sentence, they spun it into the worst brexit lie of them all,had no effect on brexit vote,.

Just ask Donald?

You been drinking 19p?
Report nineteen points June 3, 2020 9:14 PM BST
drinking? i wish. doesnt donald blame the press for everything?
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