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of these roughly million people a week with symptons they feel worthy enough of arranging and turning up for a test,and testing negative,what are they suffering from or because their free,do they just fancy a jolly
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Report InsiderTrader June 1, 2020 5:11 PM BST
Anyone still watching these?
Report 1st time poster June 1, 2020 5:12 PM BST
they look like been on the way out,hanjob in a hurry
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 5:18 PM BST
Another lie and twist fest

No answers to questions

Hancock simply hasn't got a clue how many track and tracers
have been contacted and what they have traced

More likely dot to dot books than tracing
Report 1st time poster June 1, 2020 5:19 PM BST
people following social distancing handjob said,wonder how he thinks they caught corona Laugh
Report peckerdunne June 1, 2020 5:23 PM BST
say the name
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 5:25 PM BST
Track and trace just the death tolls and the testing BS... utterly that total BS

3 months and we've gone from dead bodies in hospital wards, to dead bodies in care homes, to testing targets, to tracking people through their phones

Its so blatant and in your face ffs
Report Petraco June 1, 2020 5:26 PM BST
So the Government are still making it up as they go along, and the hospitals are emptier than they have ever been.

So how long before general nursing staff are added to the furlough scheme?
Report Dotchinite June 1, 2020 5:26 PM BST
Pointless having these every day now. Once a week is fine to cover anything worth reporting.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 5:27 PM BST
Daily propaganda required to con the public
Report 1st time poster June 1, 2020 5:28 PM BST
think sonto,s right,government have either decided or been told the fat ladies starting to sing
Report 1st time poster June 1, 2020 5:32 PM BST
only thing that doesn't add up is,dint sunak get the email ,as he,s spaffing money way into October, Confused
Report Petraco June 1, 2020 5:32 PM BST
Leave King Rishi alone, he is not a naughty boy he is the New Messiah Cool
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 5:36 PM BST
The companies are being forced to chip in with furlogue now

So expect companies to say sod that and drag everyone back in
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 5:36 PM BST
Death toll up 500+ on yesterday's figure, reported as 111 deaths
What's going on there, and why nobody spot it?
Report Des Pond June 1, 2020 5:46 PM BST
The contact tracing system is a half-baked pile of nonsense, and will make no difference at all our daily lives. Sounds like they are hoping the virus fizzles out. Meanwhile vulnerable groups are as scared as ever, small business owners are still very nervous. And for young and healthy, it's do as you like and if you're lucky, you might get paid for it.
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 5:57 PM BST
Loadsa free dosh on the dole for the young and healty

Know of 2 people signing on and they are having a good time with the extra money they get, no signing on and programmes to take part in, they've got it made
Report Des Pond June 1, 2020 6:04 PM BST
According to the Telegraph, total deaths now 39045, yesterday according to Worldometer total deaths were 38489. That's a difference of 556. I know I must have missed something, but the "Telegraph" quotes Hancock as claiming this is the "lowest daily death-rate since lockdown began"? Confused
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 6:04 PM BST
38,489 yesterday

39,045 today

Reported as 111 deaths

Priti Patel been at it again?
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 6:06 PM BST
Who cares

The whole thing is a joke anyway
Report 1st time poster June 1, 2020 6:06 PM BST
550 deaths over time as designated by other than nhs,so instead of added to todays numbers ,added to overall total,but figures correct
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 6:07 PM BST
So still plucking deaths out of thin air then
Report Des Pond June 1, 2020 6:07 PM BST
I didn't hear the actual broadcast, but did he actually say "111 deaths" ?  If so, what could be the explanation for the discrepancy?
Report 1st time poster June 1, 2020 6:09 PM BST
just p[osted,non nhs deaths over past few weeks,months,care in community ,at home etc
Report Des Pond June 1, 2020 6:10 PM BST
550 deaths over time as designated by other than nhs,so instead of added to todays numbers ,added to overall total,but figures correct

I see,
Report Angoose June 1, 2020 6:11 PM BST
PA Media has obtained an explanation as to why today’s UK coronavirus death figures and yesterday’s don’t appear to add up. (See 5.55pm.) It reports.

The number of people in the UK who have died after testing positive for Covid-19 is 556 higher than the equivalent total announced yesterday, although the government is reporting the day-on-day change as 111.

The reason for the difference in these two figures is to do with how deaths are being incorporated into historic data retrospectively.

Yesterday’s cumulative total announced by the Department of Health was 38,489, which is 556 below today’s cumulative total of 39,045.
But since yesterday, 445 deaths have been added to the historic data.

These additional deaths are linked to cases that have been identified through testing that has been carried out by commercial partners, rather than testing that has been done in NHS and Public Health England laboratories.

Rather than include these 445 deaths in today’s increase, the Department of Health has incorporated them within the previous cumulative total, to create a notional total for yesterday of 38,934 (38,489 + 445).

The difference between this notional total of 38,934 and today’s total of 39,045 is 111, and this is the one being reported by the government.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 6:11 PM BST
Hide a few more bodies...
Report Des Pond June 1, 2020 6:13 PM BST
It's still not exactly a reason for optimism though. We are going to be second only to Belgium quite soon, in terms of mortality per capita. Sad
Report Dotchinite June 1, 2020 6:13 PM BST
Lots of countries have been adjusting figures at times. The important figure here is the 111 and never forget like always its overstated as it includes people who died with COVID and not necessarily from it.

Would be great if we actually had some stats that showed how many people have actually died from it.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 6:14 PM BST
Clearly it isn't overstated if it's revised upwards without explanation
Report Baphornet June 1, 2020 6:15 PM BST
have i missed anyfink?
Report Angoose June 1, 2020 6:16 PM BST
A further change to the reporting process was introduced on 1 June 2020 and affected data from 24 May onwards. Deaths linked to cases identified through 'pillar 2' testing (see 'Total and daily UK cases' section on this page) are included as well as 'pillar 1' cases. All deaths before 24 May 2020 of people who tested positive through 'pillar 2' testing are included in the reported daily figure for 24 May 2020.

This change resulted in an additional 445 deaths being included (as at 1 June 2020).
Report Dotchinite June 1, 2020 6:17 PM BST
I think you missed my point yhtl.
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 6:19 PM BST
"A further change to the reporting process"

Meaning we've been rumbled and need to try and keep it going despite being utterly inept at trying to do so

More changes than a teenagers pants ffs
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 6:19 PM BST
So did they fiddle figures down to ease lockdown or fiddle them up
to hide them

7 day rolling average was flat lining for 4 days before these 400 were added in
Report Des Pond June 1, 2020 6:20 PM BST
New and imaginative ways of twisting the truth. The "architecture" is there, and the "toolkits" are in place, so we can count our lucky stars.
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 6:22 PM BST
Up or down no one gives a fack anymore

Its gotten so boring as they stumble from one script to the next
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 6:22 PM BST
The capacity to produce whatever figures suit their agenda
Report Angoose June 1, 2020 6:22 PM BST
The bulk of the adjustment goes back to 24 May, revised figure of 441 versus the previously reported 118.
Also daily differences on each day from 26 May.
Report Dotchinite June 1, 2020 6:24 PM BST
I get the idea you are desperately trying to find a reason to stay scared yhtl. The explanation given makes perfect sense.
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 6:29 PM BST
As I said anyone with 1 functioning brain cell can see the utter rubbish coming out is just that by now surely?

3 months and the original synopsis has changed multiple times, its gone from cough and fever to cough, fever, foot fungas, loss of smell and/or taste etc etc, its gone from being a raspatory issue to being a blood vessel one

We've gone from high infectious to low infectious on the 19th March and none batted an eyelid at that so who the fack knows
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 6:32 PM BST
And now all of football is coming back despite more testing "positive" than before when it was shut down for a couple of positive tests?

Makes no sense but heyho
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 6:35 PM BST
I'm not scared, I'm posting true figures

You are throwing the same accusations at me, but
ignoring the facts

That's up to you but a shoite position when wrong
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 6:36 PM BST
39,000 deaths and they've really had to mess with the numbers to get that

You add it January and Febaurys figures to this and its about 49,000-52,000

About the number who die from influenza Plain
Report 1st time poster June 1, 2020 6:40 PM BST
65,000 excess deaths outside of normal flu,in a year when snow hardly touched the ground
Report Dotchinite June 1, 2020 6:41 PM BST
yhtl. Whats inaccurate about my post stating the figures dont reflect actual deaths from COVID just people who dies whilst having it. That clearly means they are overstated.
As for the additional 445 deaths added the explanation seems simple enough to me yet you seem to want to interpret it as things are worse than have been claimed.

What facts have I been ignoring???
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 6:42 PM BST
Snow doesn't cause flu, in fact people are less likely to catch any bugs in frosty weather conditions 1tp because there's no moisture in the air its crisp clean air

Damp cold misty weather is the absolute worst conditions for bugs and illnesses
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 6:43 PM BST
You seem overly comiant to accepting government massaging figures and respond with abuse to me when I have pointed out fugures

Another shoite position to hold
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 6:44 PM BST
Compliant
Report Dotchinite June 1, 2020 6:45 PM BST
Thats your opinion but its not a fact. How have I abused you?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 6:47 PM BST
Check your posts...
Report InsiderTrader June 1, 2020 6:48 PM BST

Jun 1, 2020 -- 12:29PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


As I said anyone with 1 functioning brain cell can see the utter rubbish coming out is just that by now surely? 3 months and the original synopsis has changed multiple times, its gone from cough and fever to cough, fever, foot fungas, loss of smell and/or taste etc etc, its gone from being a raspatory issue to being a blood vessel oneWe've gone from high infectious to low infectious on the 19th March and none batted an eyelid at that so who the fack knows


Infectious level falling due to viral load in samples falling?

Whole thing could fizzle out soon like Sars1 did.

Government need to keep justifying their pointless lockdown of healthy young people for a while yet.

There latest measure is to make having sex with someone outside your household illegal.

Good luck with that. You cannot keep single people doing that forever. At least in Netherlands they allowed single people to pick a buddy.

Report InsiderTrader June 1, 2020 6:48 PM BST
* Their
Report Dotchinite June 1, 2020 6:49 PM BST
Just tell me which one offended you?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 6:54 PM BST
I didn't say I was offended, I said you were abusive
Report Dotchinite June 1, 2020 6:56 PM BST
Tell me where and If I agree that i overstepped the mark I will apologise but at the moment im  bemused.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 6:59 PM BST
By attacking me instead of addressing the discussion

You don't need to apologise for your abuse, I ain't offended
Report Dotchinite June 1, 2020 7:01 PM BST
I do though yhtl. I can get carried away sometimes but its never my intention to abuse or insult anyone.
Report thegiggilo June 1, 2020 7:02 PM BST
FFS this lot been o the pritti patel abacus again,more trying to cook the books or at least keeo things hidden,utter vermin shouldn't be surprosed though as underscoring by 25,000,what's 25,000 to the tories lets just move on and forget aye,they must thoink people are stupid alright..A pity so many are..
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 7:05 PM BST
You havnt offended me, honest..
Report 1st time poster June 1, 2020 7:05 PM BST
to quote Andrew neil on twitter 20 mins ago,

and there,s still flat earther,s out there telling me it,s FLU
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 7:08 PM BST
Flat earthers had a bad time cos of Elon musk

Need something to cling to
Report thegiggilo June 1, 2020 7:12 PM BST
Never chsamged the graphs or showed the rolling average  htf do they get away with all these things,it's just incredible the people in this country must be utter mugs..
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 7:20 PM BST
If the media are still trying to cling onto this event they are desperate Laugh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 7:52 PM BST
Rolling average must have been upwards back end of last week

Strip out a few, say you are transitioning to phase 3
hope folk are on the beach and don't notice, get the schools open.

Blame the scientists
Report 1st time poster June 1, 2020 7:52 PM BST
handjob took control of graphs to announce lowest deaths all be it weekend effect and lowest positive tests,550 extra deaths wasn't going to get in the way
no stats on TTT
no numbers of people tested
no bigging up 200,000 tests capacity,

clinging to sunday effect
Report thegiggilo June 1, 2020 8:31 PM BST
It was obviously to get some extra plebs brats back into school,the numbers are going to be suspect everyday now to maintain the plebs in work and kids at school,as number one rule always applies never trust the tories..
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 1, 2020 8:50 PM BST
Same old tories

Always lying







No wonder the spin was is anybody still watching this...


Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem June 1, 2020 8:54 PM BST
Gigg thinks its a conspiracy CrazyCrazy
Report duffy June 2, 2020 5:23 PM BST
He has stiff competition but Hancock must win the "Most sounds like he's making it up as he goes along " award.
Report 1st time poster June 2, 2020 5:27 PM BST
the old you no he,s lying his lips are moving,in handjobs case its you no,s he,s lying when he starts moving his hands like tommy cooper
Report politicspunter June 2, 2020 5:30 PM BST

Jun 2, 2020 -- 11:23AM, duffy wrote:


He has stiff competition but Hancock must win the "Most sounds like he's making it up as he goes along " award.


Surely Boris has him beat all day long?

Report politicspunter June 2, 2020 5:31 PM BST
Hold on, Cummings and Gove have to be in the shake up also.
Report Cider June 2, 2020 5:55 PM BST
So nobody is bothered about age disparity, gender disparity it appears, just the smaller number of those 'BAME' affected. Of course the media is going to try and whip people up into a frenzy off the back of what is happening in the US, hoping for the carnage to be replicated here no doubt. What do they expect people who have higher risk jobs to do exactly? All men stay at home? Have people people who have a different colour skin treated differently?
Report Angoose June 2, 2020 6:44 PM BST
1,749 people have been contacted by NHS Test and Trace since the scheme started, according to Channel 4 News.

The programme has seen a leaked copy of the data from Thursday - the day the system was launched - running up to Sunday.

Across England, 4,456 confirmed Covid-19 cases have been reported to Test and Trace, and of those 1,831 self-registered on the website or were called and have completed the form providing information about their contacts.

The number of contacts they provided was 4,634, of which just 1,749 have been contacted, Channel 4 News reported.

Why has Handjob failed to read this memo ?
Report 1st time poster June 2, 2020 6:46 PM BST
how many are self isolating
Report Cider June 2, 2020 7:21 PM BST
It won't fit your quest for bad news, but many of those cases won't have to have contacts traced. They could be in hospital, care, prison for example, or been within 2 metres of people they know for 15 minutes.
Report Cider June 2, 2020 7:24 PM BST
*not been

One would assume there will be some blanket testing of certain settings as well.
Report Angoose June 2, 2020 9:00 PM BST
Why can't Handjob tell the nation what is contained in the memo ?
Report zorrostrikes June 5, 2020 7:11 AM BST
I have a big black one.. Need a bath.
Fertility and wire brish. ....dettol and a wire brush.. Predictive text, hunt that man down.
Report Facts June 5, 2020 11:37 AM BST
Don't forget. The target for end of April was a daily 100,000 people tested.
When 30th April arrived. Hancock crowed that the target had been reached as the number of tests was 122,000.

Er no !! It was never number of tests, it was number of people.
This was confirmed on 1st May Gov website.

Number of tests 122,000

Number of people tested 73,000.

This number of people tested ** subsequently has never risen much above that number. Certainly no where near 100,000.



## For the 14th day running , gov website fails to report the daily number  of people tested.
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