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Most new Covid-19 hospitalizations in New York state are from people who were staying home and not venturing much outside, a “shocking” finding, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday.
The preliminary data was from 100 New York hospitals involving about 1,000 patients, Cuomo said at his daily briefing.
It shows that 66% of new admissions were from people who had largely been sheltering at home. The next highest source of admissions was from nursing homes, 18%.
“If you notice, 18% of the people came from nursing homes, less than 1% came from jail or prison, 2% came from the homeless population, 2% from other congregate facilities, but 66% of the people were at home, which is shocking to us,” Cuomo said.
“This is a surprise: Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” he added. “We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we’ve taken special precautions on public transportation, but actually no, because these people were literally at home.”
Cuomo said nearly 84% of the hospitalized cases were people who were not commuting to work through car services, personal cars, public transit or walking. He said a majority of those people were either retired or unemployed. Overall, some 73% of the admissions were people over age 51.
He said the information shows that those who are hospitalized are predominantly from the downstate area in or around New York City, are not working or traveling and are not essential employees. He also said a majority of the cases in New York City are minorities, with nearly half being African American or Hispanic.
Cuomo said state health officials had thought a high percentage of people who were hospitalized would be essential employees, like health-care workers or city staff, who are still going to work.
“Much of this comes down to what you do to protect yourself. Everything is closed down, government has done everything it could, society has done everything it could. Now it’s up to you,” Cuomo said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html
The preliminary data was from 100 New York hospitals involving about 1,000 patients, Cuomo said at his daily briefing.
It shows that 66% of new admissions were from people who had largely been sheltering at home. The next highest source of admissions was from nursing homes, 18%.
“If you notice, 18% of the people came from nursing homes, less than 1% came from jail or prison, 2% came from the homeless population, 2% from other congregate facilities, but 66% of the people were at home, which is shocking to us,” Cuomo said.
“This is a surprise: Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” he added. “We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we’ve taken special precautions on public transportation, but actually no, because these people were literally at home.”
Cuomo said nearly 84% of the hospitalized cases were people who were not commuting to work through car services, personal cars, public transit or walking. He said a majority of those people were either retired or unemployed. Overall, some 73% of the admissions were people over age 51.
He said the information shows that those who are hospitalized are predominantly from the downstate area in or around New York City, are not working or traveling and are not essential employees. He also said a majority of the cases in New York City are minorities, with nearly half being African American or Hispanic.
Cuomo said state health officials had thought a high percentage of people who were hospitalized would be essential employees, like health-care workers or city staff, who are still going to work.
“Much of this comes down to what you do to protect yourself. Everything is closed down, government has done everything it could, society has done everything it could. Now it’s up to you,” Cuomo said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html
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fook me this was up 2 weeks ago
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Shocking isn't it?
Boris has known this for two weeks and yet we are still in a pointless lockdown. |
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by homes does it mean joining apartments,flats,tower blocks,where no ones returned from walking a dog,shopping,essential work,everyone no,s it spreads worse inside if someone has it,where do they expect to fiond them on the street,these a 7/10 day incubation period, hard to say where anyone picks it up,bu tpretty obvious as symptons worse you,ll be at home
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Perhaps they became infected through their televisions
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The much admired Andrew Cuomo was shocked by the results.
He expected those out and about as essential workers would be the people who got it not the people at home. |
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It doesn't fit in to well with official goverment advice that masks are no good if you are alluding that the virus is airborne.
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If it is bad in the house it must be terrible altogether outside?
The lockdown needs to be longer so? |
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The conclusion if social distancing measures are in place and being observed in public and the home curfew is observed as stated is that lockdown is pointless in homes and social distancing does little either when people leave their homes?
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My conclusion is that unless you do full and total lockdown it is pointless.
If you go out to a crowded supermarket (because other shops and restaurants are shut) once a day you can pick it up anyway if your body is susceptible to the virus. |
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What if you go out to a non-crowded supermarket ?
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A lot of European countries have single figure new cases these days,the lockdown has worked for them,they can control this easily by track and trace now with the only danger who is coming and going into the country.
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seems to be an outbreak in a Bristol hospital, closed to all other patients as of now,bank holiday on southwest beaches wont be helping
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When you have 2k-3k new cases a day something is badly wrong.
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Never understood how self isolating yourself for 12 weeks was going to help you --- first day out you could catch the flu from anyone who had it who had not isolated
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I don't understand how it spreads like wildfire from a handful of cases , at the start,but with up to 10,000 a day it doesn't,same virus
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It's not the sort of thing where you have a control country in the data to see how high the peak would have gone with no measures in place at all like the flu (obviously vaccinations in place for seasonal flu that have varying degrees of success year to year.
ie a country where it got to the point of thousands of new cases a day doing nothing in response. Infections have to slow down 1TP after the early exponential rises it's a case of how quickly the burn up the most viable targets and how many people will get infected as it runs it's course. |
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Weston Super Mare has seen covid admissions spike and have had to shut their doors to other conditions again. How many more in coming weeks?
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25 May 20 09:43 Joined: 29 Jan 09 | Topic/replies: 3,955 | Blogger: lapsy pa's blog A lot of European countries have single figure new cases these days,the lockdown has worked for them,they can control this easily by track and trace now with the only danger who is coming and going into the country. ^ What makes you think that is anything to do with blanket lockdowns? |
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It's a real shame for me that there aren't more discussions for the public regarding these studies and observations.
The press briefing for me is just a ZZZZZZZZZZZz event and has been for ages. I would rather have a broadcast of an hour each day with various conflicting science answering questions not just the govt bods! |
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^ Lockdowns and acting early IT, single figures,Slovenia 0 new cases,Greece 2,Croatia 1, Hungary 28,Finland 11,Norway 6,Switzerland 11.Austria 17.
You are still pushing lifting lockdown but even today and for last week an average of 3k new cases a day? isn't there just too many catching this? |
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But can you PROVE that turning off the tap stopped the water flowing out of it
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2500/3000 positive test,threy reckon between 8 and 10,000 a day
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study today saying only between 3 to 7% have had virus in uk,plenty left to get it
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I can't Angoose,it is what is happening though,i do follow the Irish goverment policy a bit and they are hellbent on getting new cases down,i'll go with that.
In March 1stTP when cases were low,there was estimates of up to 50k infected in London,that was kept quiet but now looks to be correct. The multiply effect then i think was about 10 less now obviously but agree still a multiple of cases found and that 2-3k nd 8-10k looks right to me too. |
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And because we don't have a parallel universe where we can replicate the UK or Ireland without lockdown measures, IT will continue to claim that there is no proof that lockdown measures have slowed down the rate of infection in these countries.
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It is up to the lockdown fanatics to prove it is a policy worth destroying our economy and killing many cancer, heart disease and mental health patients for now and in the future.
Lockdown of young health people changed the status quo of our society based on no scientific evidence. |
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IT, you never did give your mark out of ten for how Johnson has handled this crisis.
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Lockdown is over now and theres no going back. We will just have to wait and see what happens.
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Much more of the country could open up if the British public cold behave.
The pubs near me tend to have large beer gardens, could have table service for food & drink. But if news got out that the pubs were open people would travel from miles , then moan that it is too crowded to be safe. How dangerous would it be to open swimming pools (lap swimming only) . Yet at the same time half of parents think government wrong to open a limited school system next week. |
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Sweden is still nowhere near 'herd immunity,' even though it didn't go into lockdown
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/21/health/sweden-herd-immunity-coronavirus-intl/index.html Was this posted anywhere, apologies if so. |
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There are so many aspects to it.
Overall 2 or 3. The problem is in the inflexibility of our health system and a lack of willingness to get the private sector into things like testing quickly like places like Germany. State run giant organisations like the NHS are not fit for purpose. Supermarkets sorted out food supplies in days in the private sector. Public sector public health England still has not sorted out testing. They have produced a rubbish APP for contact tracing. The code the government relied on for the Ferguson numbers would have not passed private sector tests. It is all very amateurish. The government got themselves in a pickle by prioritizing 'PROTECTING THE FACE OF THE NHS' over saving lives. So much was the fear of a media frenzy of one or two hospitals having patients filmed in corridors that NHS England cleared hospitals and cancelled all diagnostics and most cancer and heart treatments. No one see this stuff behind closed doors. People will just slowly die over the next few years. The reality is 100 people might have died due to lack of beds and yet many thousands will die from lack treatment for other things due to the ideological nature of the NHS not being seen to be over run. I understand the logic in a social media based society with 24/7 media but it does not make it right. I understand why Boris panic on the sensible policy and went for saving the face of the NHS rather than saving lives and the economy (and more lives). Most people agree with his policies although complain of lack of PPE, testing and problems in carehomes which is a direct result of trying to protect the face of the NHS at all costs. This crisis was about choosing how to use the resources available. Boris choose style over substance to avoid one or two terrible days of bad press photos. |
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I broadly agree IT but they were quite rightly desperate to avoid the scenes in Italy and Spain of seriously ill people being turned away by intensive care hospitals. They did manage to "flatten" the curve which was the right decision during March and April.
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Not room to swing a kitten on our seafront today, social distancing is out the window, if this is being repeated elsewhere and doesn’t result in the predicted “second wave” then people are entitled to ask wtf was the point of lockdown.
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Been to an M&S food store in Bridgwater and to the Steart marshes wildlife reserve this morning between 10.00 and 12.30. Very few people about either on the roads, the shops or the coastal reserve. Very easy to keep 5 metres from anyone else.
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Shock horror people still getting ill with a "virus" despite not venturing out
The shock of it... not!!! |
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Local Council now tweeting that all car parks full, asking public to “please stay away”
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No deaths in Ireland today
 cases and deaths in UK down too,great news albeit wary of post weekend figures.Just maybe the lockdowns are working and the herd immunity concept is a killing machine? |
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Cummings herd immunity killed 50,000
Lockdown saved 450,000 Hmmm Odd thread from a busted flush, again |
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So was Cummings the man behind lockdown or someone who went for herd immunity?
We don't know. |