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The latter part is almost to the letter of what's happening now
Lockstep page 18 https://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller%20Foundation.pdf |
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The obligatory dramatic opening with some ominous sounding narrator…
“in 2010 the deep state had the Rockerfeller Foundation script a plan to induce martial law and a permanent method for total control of the citizenry” It is a report outlining the possible effects a global pandemic could have on countries at different stages of development on their future development,trading relationships and innovation.The scenario presumes a pandemic that spreads the world infecting 20% of the worlds population killing 8 million (unlike covid 19 with age and good health offering no protection) in 7 months.Asia and Africa the worst sufferers along with Central America. There is no suggestion of martial law being adopted in the States in this report and it is interesting in the clip that The Lockstep heading suggestive of how countries may act in the pandemic situation… LOCK STEP Scenario Narratives A world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback Becomes, tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership The world reference is redacted to imply that these measures are what the USA citizens would be heading for. The seeds are being sown and the content of the report is already being warped to fit the classic conspiracist agenda of the little people (sheep) being controlled by the shady elitist and their manipulation of the US authorities. We continue and really lose any factual link with the Lockstep chapter in the report and the claims from the narration of the YouTube clip,It’s quite astonishing. “In this plan as they disguise as an academic scenario as they called it the method they would use to gain complete prison like control of the entire population was to infect them with a devastating biological pandemic and then and then under the guise of protecting us from this threat they would be free to implement their final solution a prison state, the prison state they need to keep their grip on power” There is no plan to infect anyone in this report and any inference is completely unfounded.You cannot jump from a painted scenario of a pandemic sweeping the globe in the report to a situation where this is some sort of plan of the US govt to control it’s citizens by infecting them with a deadly disease.A nice touch with the phrase final solution which of course gives reference to the Nazis extermination of millions of Jews in WW2 (of course if you believe the holocaust happened that is). But who needs any rational analytical processes in forming opinion when you can make wild unsubstantiated inference to fit an extremist view.Once you manage to convince yourself of your extreme assumptions, the possibilities of linking practically anything you want to fit your agenda are endless.Facts become less and less important. We continue, “As usual the fascists disguise their crimes as helping us” Didn’t really need to hear this sort of language to know how this narration views the govt but it’s a continual perpetuation of the story that has been created. “And as is typical of this new type of fascism they always make the claim that we the people are baying them to have more control” For a short time at least as we have seen in the UK most would probably accept more authoritative measures.In reference to the Lockstep Chapter in the report it never specifically mentions what the Us would do it speculates on what some countries may do.This remember is also a scenario painted of a far more deadly pandemic than our current experience of Covid 19.I would imagine the deadlier the disease the more initial cooperation at least from citizens. There is no doubt Covid 19 has been particularly harsh on the elderly and many peoples views on the forum are that younger fitter and healthier people should not be locked down.I’m not as sure this would be the case with the disease supposed in Lockstep that is killing the young and healthy in such high numbers, this of course is only my own opinion. The clip continues with, “remember the deep state concocted this scheme in 2010 as a quote unquote simulation of what is to come” The narration is trying to reinforce this idea that this report is not a simulation of a pandemic and a generalized world view of possible experiences of citizens before and after but a manufactured plan of the US infecting it’s own population with a deadly virus to control them.Repeating unsubstantiated and extreme inference does not make it more viable to swallow for a mind that isn’t heavily influenced by conspiracy. Again there is nothing factual in the narration to base these ideas on but as stated earlier facts just get in the way of a good conspiracy don’t they? We then approach the interview with the claim “The following is proof that the deep state is behind these viral pandemics” Ok great what looks like a wild leap of extreme unsubstantiated allegations so far from the actual content of the Rockerfeller report Lockstep chapter is now going to be proven to me.This is more like it chaps! I’m a bit concerned at this point though as the clip is honing in on the report again and I have read this and cannot for the life of me make the jump to satisfy the narrators claims.Surely when he is saying the following proof it won’t be more of the same unsubstantiated inference? The big build up reaches a crescendo into the interview stage of the clip, “Absolutely positively pandemics are now the tool of choice for the fascists known as the deep state and the private contractors that they contract these pandemics out to” Blimey this sh1t just got real when you tell me [i]absolutely positively[i] it must be true. The govt are manufacturing all these deadly viruses in their secret labs to unleash on their people so as to control them.Although the labs are secret what happens in them is no secret. This interview is going to be incredible , I can’t wait to hear the truth behind this awful fascist policy. [b]“A simple vial of Ebola,Sars,Mers,Spanish flu or Coronavirus or whatever they come up with in their secret Bioweapons lab is all they need to bring the world into their total control” Blimey not just intent on controlling it’s citizens by killing them with virus the possibilities of world control are there the ultimate conspiracist **** fest is complete. [b]“The only thing you have to remember is that if they can do it they will do it which means they already have done it”[b] Oh no well you’ve told me they can do it, you’ve inferred they want to do it, it is their plan so obviously they will do it and obviously this means they have done it. Ok so now we just need to get the proof sorted out but obviously making all these extreme claims you are going to do this, right? We go into the interview with Harry Vox an investigative journalist and from his early claim… [b]“If the ruling class ever saw wide scale civil unrest you’d see an Ebola outbreak in America”[/b} The interview follows the usual extremist thinking of offering nothing tangible but merely this journalists ridiculous inferences already seeded by the earlier narration as to the conspiracy behind the Rockerfeller report and a ‘truer meaning;’. Opinion is stated as fact, wild inference has to be implied and accepted to even begin to come up with the link from the Lockstep chapter to the scenes of martial law and a government infecting and killing it’s own people.If you haven’t got the same extreme views it is highly unlikely you are going to make such inferences as their is no proof to justify them. Like all of these conspiracy type clips they are perfect to share among those who require very little of substance to reinforce their pre existing view of the world. Usually the secret and not so secret ever powerful elitist groups corrupting governments and suppressing the plebs. The plebs like myself are sheep unless they have higher intelligence and open minds and can see the real truths.Thankfully we have access to these greater minds in the form of the OP and Denzil to name but two, shining the light on the real truths. If you don’t hold the same view as these superior minds after looking at the evidence for yourself you remain a lost sheep and the superiors will tell you that ‘you should not be commenting on matters you know very little about’ or in fact you are just plain stupid and you cannot hold an open debate. I am growingly fascinated by what makes these minds attracted to Conspiracy type theories (I would prefer a term like speculation theory) rather than their actual content (I am nearly always disappointed with the content itself).It must I would think offer some sort of comfort mentally.The world is a volatile place we frequently either personally endure or see from a distance some sort of suffering or hardship.No governments or scientists can provide all of the solutions and death is the only thing that’s inevitable once you are born.Control is often out of ones hands so perhaps If you form a view of the world where your uncertainty can be pinned down to powerful manipulative elites it gives a free pass to connect most of these problems to this one basic underpinning concept. Who needs proof when you can access such a wealth of information to seemingly uphold your own beliefs on the internet these days.If the burden of proof is pretty much done away with and the often mistrusted scientists have nothing tangible they can disprove in what you say or links you are making then it protects the nice snug explanations you hold of how the world actually works. |
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Glasgow....you should really put a window in your bungalow !
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stridingedge I'm not sure what you're getting at with this post other than having another go you clearly have a problem with what others choose to view and discuss.
It seems like you are spending alot of time and you might genuinely be 'growingly fascinated by what makes these minds attracted to Conspiracy type theories' why? You should be asking some serious questions of yourself if that's all you've got to do. The facts - A video was posted I watched it I replied - The latter part is almost to the letter of what's happening now Lockstep page 18 https://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller%20Foundation.pdf It is very similar to what's happening now you if you think otherwise fair enough You are the one speaking of conspiracy theories there is NO EVIDENCE here where I or anyone else are posting any conspiracy theories of any kind. ps It's a sign you're struggling when the most disingenuous poster on any of these forums appears in a poor attempt at mockery you should be more fussy about your allies they reduce your credibility. |
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Denzil you are embarrassing yourself there is no coherent argument to your post.
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I don't have a problem with discussing anything you are the smug tw*t claiming I don't know what I am talking about and you can't understand why I have a problem with you.Seriously?
I'll post whatever I like and you post whatever you like. I'm not the one who thinks there is a deep and dark meaning behind everything in life. If it floats your boat crack on but try not to be so conceited about it. |
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There wasn't meant to be any argument the facts were laid out as they are
stridingedge nobody is stopping you posting what you like that's up to you There is no evidence I think 'there is a deep and dark meaning behind everything in life' you are making things up YOU having a problem with me is YOUR PROBLEM you seem to have created one to suit yourself |
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Denzil
You are have go at stride yet he is pretty much the only person who has discussed the video Henry once again posted some conspiracy video & refused to discuss anything he agreed with or disagreed with. You posted a very short - agree with video message without going into detail. Now having a go at Strid Isn't it sensible that governments / WHO had some sort of plan as to what to do if a virus was killing thousands of people (& would be millions if left to run riot) There isn't really much can do if no vaccine/cure for a virus apart from social distancing- hardly surprising some "shiny hat truther" made an propaganda video for loon-tube is it. Actually the UK government is having little control- they want to open school (slowly) , parents are less keen. The current UK covid19 laws are ambiguous, so police/government don't really have much control. It is the population who are shaping the response. There is a killer virus - of course we should avoid people. Don't need a tin-foil hat to understand that. |
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The Youtube clip is pure speculation and conspiracy from an extreme perspective with no supportive evidence. The guy Vox mentions the state frisking him for a ciggy or a joint, I think he has certainly smoked a few of them in his time.
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Denzil You keep cropping up supporting some of Icke's views moaning about suppression from paid influencers, you pop up all over the place finding all these clips fascinating.
Why don't you own an opinion or do you actually not have any? but I'll have an open debate with you on anything even though you have judged me clueless. |
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I do have a problem with you though Denzil and anyone who likes to think they are a cut above and that includes the OP.
I've seen nothing from the OP or yourself to suggest either of you have any right thinking you have some greater knowledge. Calling others sheep because they can't see the bigger picture. GTFOOH. |
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Icke's views moaning about suppression from paid influencers
I've not heard Icke say that stridingedge please take the next bit in As said yesterday the paid influencer thread was a way of having a dig at people for getting my posts removed,to make that credible so I had comebacks it had to packaged/dressed up in a way that could be believable/arguable. If you read further down you'll see the person who he and his cronies are doing this,unfortunately it attracted people that weren't the original target. They wound me up on another thread to cover their tracks hence my talk of bluffs. |
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Denzil
You won't have posts removed if you bother to stick to the T&C which YOU agreed to. Blame yourself if your posts get removed. You agreed to the rules so stick to them & stop crying. Do you honestly believe Betfair pay people to report your posts? Hardly anybody reads chit chat forum. It is hardly Facebook where people have 1m followers. |
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Who has been forced not to post? Just stick to T&C and post away. |
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Usual crowd gathering.
Edgy has time off becoz filming on the walking dead has been paused so his part as one of the herd is not required at this time ![]() He obviously has a problem with me becoz i know far too much for him and come from a place of superior intellect and knowledge. It scares him. That is normal and i have grown accustomed to it. ![]() As previously stated, he and his like dont bother me one jot. I will continue to post up what i want when i want and let anyone who wants to look at it decide on their view. I will comment when and if I choose to but will refrain from entering debate as their defence is futile and i refuse to be dragged down into the cesspit of knowledge they reside in ![]() Keep up the good work Denzil as i can hear the tiny feet of scurrying white mice all around the forum. Back to Chess. ENJOY YOUR DAZE ![]() |
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He obviously has a problem with me becoz i know far too much for him and come from a place of superior intellect and knowledge. It scares him. That is normal and i have grown accustomed to it
Glad to see J Waffle H has acquired a sense of humour. If anyone is really interested here is the document the video refers to: https://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller%20Foundation.pdf Only a conspiritard could read the document and then make a video full of clap trap. |
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The nasty man called me a fanny.
![]() Denzil If it's good enough for you it's good enough for me. Not the way I would expect an adult to behave but If I need to go down to your level I will you were the one who came across as someone completely self obsessed a trait shared by JWH. Joined: 20 Sep 11 | Topic/replies: 3,508 | Blogger: John.W.Henry.'s blog Good thread Denzil. I can think of a few you are referring to but as I once remarked to Terry M, who was adamant some of these goons were being paid by someone to spout their nonsense, I wouldnt pay them to pick up the dogsh*t from my back garden as they would without any question of doubt pick the flowers up instead such is the nature of their belief systems. You really couldn't make it up. ![]() They continually embarrass themselves with their musings and misguided beliefs thus proving the very extreme power of propaganda and the effect it can have on people. Just look at where we are right now ? Crazy world. But as i said a very good thread The oracle speaks to put down others with nothing else of substance to communicate. Denzil You presume people tell lies,are paranoid and believe in nonsense on subjects you know little about yet jump straight in,that's life. You presume people tell lies? Where exactly are paranoid? that's the only explanation I can come to with their equating complete extremist speculation to FACT. and believe in nonsense on subjects you know little about yet jump straight in,that's life? I'm more than happy to discuss these subjects to tell me I know nothing about whilst you sit ion the fence splinters right up your arris. ![]() |
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John these characters spend alot of time attempting to ridicule others it's almost as if their lives are empty and by doing so raises their self esteem to the point where their days are bearable.
Look at the work edgy is putting in coupled with his increasing anger it's almost as if he believes what he's doing means something like he's fighting some sort of crusade,what goes on in the heads of these types? Good post above ![]() Back to life have a good day |
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It's never what you post JWH, Am I all over your threads trying to rubbish them? I made a point of this one today to show that I'm perfectly capable of constructing my own arguments and make judgements along with the other plebs beneath yourself.
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what goes on in the heads of these types?
Well I know what goes on in yours and JWH's and it isn't pretty. ![]() |
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I will comment when and if I choose to but will refrain from entering debate as their defence is futile and i refuse to be dragged down into the cesspit of knowledge they reside in
not so thinly veiled... I will keep posting up my shoite links but won't add any comments myself because I won't be able to back up any of it with anything of real substance that can be evaluated in any rational manner. Good day Gentleman off for some vitamin D. |
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John.W.Henry.20 May 20
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They want healthy people to isolate for 14 days if they've been traced
But your kids can go back to school and sport can restart on 1st June Something not making sense ffs |
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stridingedge poor attempt to grab some high ground after the angry rants
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Sont
How do you know these "traced" people are healthy. Until they are tested how is it possible to know if they are healthy. Yet you seem to know, did you give them some peanut butter. |
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They have no symptoms ffs, how can you be ill with no symptoms? You know something is in the post because you get go cold as the fever kicks in |
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Do you understand what a virus is ? Of course you can be infected without any symptoms ffs. The "typhoid Mary" case is years ago. Have "lessons be learned " Somebody tests positive with the deadly virus, the day before they were having coffee with their sister & sat next to a stranger on a train. So do you. A) Inform both people they may have Covid19 & leave action up to them B) Keep these two people in the dark , don't inform them C) Inform the two, test them & explain that they are not allowed to meet other people until know they Won't kill anybody. It really is a simple process. Find out who has the virus & prevent them from infecting others. The U.K. Government have not been great hense this social distancing. |
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Who wants to know they might die at any given moment ? |
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Congratulations Sont
Out of those 3 answers option B) will result in the most deaths. You have knowledge about somebody's health & you have decided they are not worthy of having that information. Only the God Sontaran should have that knowledge. Maybe we should keep hurricanes secret so people can't take action to prevent death? Let people die as long as they can swear every you a cold beer on a Friday evening. Thankfully the government's of this planet disagree with you Sont. |