160

I'll go back above 300 for the rest of the week

But hospital deaths are now below 200 every day, even heading towards below 100

Below 0.6 R? so what's the point of a vaccine now? either way we are getting the new system they so crave, it'll be bio chipped

so disappointing they couldn't show a graph for declining toilet roll sales

surely they know the winter environment will induce another run on loo roll

they need to prioritise better

Dom is doing up Charley Van-Tam like a Manx Kipper

Loss of smell and taste added

You couldn't make this s*** up

So pollen allergy then, why not add in twitch eye as well? that's a sign of pollen being high as well

doing the right thing at the right time

NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Can children pass the disease to adults

we don't know is the answer

but we will pack the kids into a bus or car anyway and hope teachers don't die in large numbers

children not big spreaders 18% of,5 to 14 yr olds according to those doing data have had virus ,that's about 1,5 million,thats the biggest group to get the virus,3% of over 70,s,obviously lots are shielding

1tp - where did you get your figures from?

app is one part of a failed system

test track trace is the 2nd part of a failed system

have you got ANYTHING right

but OPEN THE ECONOMY REGARDLESS

Wait until the kids start getting the pollen allergy's

"I've got no sense of smell" ok that's a 2 week isolation

"I can't taste things properly" you've got the karachi so better isolate for 2 weeks

"I'm sure I had no sense of smell last summer" it was high pollen, but this year its the Karachi

I said back in late March wait for the higher pollen to come around

And bingo here it is

Tam, the fella was asking you to answer his question, not for you to go camp on him and not actually answer

I would wager fatigue is another big pollen thing

Aches is quite a big symptom with high pollen esp in rural areas and in the sticks

I've got blocked sinuses right now so my sense of smell is off, is that the Karachi?

the day ons/Manchester uni/London eradicating it,all came out on same day,think it was the people who estimated 19 million had ,had the virus

30th February

But we haven't had the pollen karachi yet, wait until that bad boy kicks off properly

Kids weezing at the back of the class

be mindful in Wales

that should do it ffs

I think Charley got his qualies from the Open University

devolved is the message Dom, you are England standing further apart and happy to do so

good grief, Helen Catt looks remarkably like my fav (at the mo) pawn star - Ashley Adams

Van Tam Mr Angry at it again.

this government want to divide britain and are slowly going about it.

Charley is always angry; he knows what's coming

heard that journo carol Malone on sky last night, to quote,

we no children are least likely to get the virus.

NO WE FOOOKING DONT,do your foooooking homework or shut the fooook up

children are probably the least sector to have been tested,we think we no they suffer less from the virus , which has got exactly the square root of SFA  to do with how many catch it,in fact if they suffer less,show fewer symptons,as one study showed they probably get the virus more than anyone else

The % of infection are the highest group 2-19,so who's going tp get it? everyone else.

565 today,imagine what the real figure is..

Sick of this, once again no graph for current loo roll sales......

7 day rolling average not coming down as quickly as would like.

Cause for concern


New admissions must still be decreasing to continue with unlocking.

The thing that winds me up is that they are letting old people die in these care homes to bump the deaths

Hence them no longer giving out age stats for this thing

Us and America seem to be the only two countries getting the full on fear crucifixion and it ain't working and wont work

Not when 99% of deaths are over 70s with underlying health conditions, but that's something they ain't telling you in the death toll, its just "*insert number* died with covid 19"

And hospital admissions are below 10,000, almost half of the peak YHTL

Hospitals are basically empty in the ICUs with regards to this thing

Cracking question

No answer from government

Just trot out the same shoite

Hope somebody thinks it's an answer


Teachers have continued to work... You forgot that

Total fumbling by minister and scientist


Scientist says she hasn't been informed of what government want her to tell them

Wait till thursday




Fecking amazing

"We don't accept the caricature", WTF? Does he think this is a panel show?

50,000 have died

That science expert is clearly rattled with good reason its a dogs breakfast

They never know anything . They are scum .

She cannot look anyone in the eye with those answers, as clear as mud.

Scientist has almost given up

I do hope she has somebody to help her after
Seemingly lying against her will for this rancid
government

This presentation today might be the worst of the lot, outstripping Priti.

Eustice tbf isn't doing bad,he did say it is the long haul though plugging brexit.

icu,s are empty
after an 7 week lockdown and 65,000 deaths one would jolly well hope so

Shows how easy it is to control a population . Believe nothing these ****z say . Do your own research and form your own opinion . I hate them .

Big tension there from Maclean in some of them answers!

Do they really think we are 2 weeks behind Spain and Italy? Both of which had fewer than 200 deaths 2 weeks ago! We are atleast 4 weeks behind if not Five.

at least they did have some tougher ?

Well that was highly revealing if not in the least educational.

Down to level 3,get back to work scum your billionaire masters requirements and your plebs into school now no PPE and level 3 who knew?

May 19, 2020 -- 5:35PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:

50,000 have diedThat science expert is clearly rattled with good reason its a dogs breakfast

Would be difficult not to get irritated by thick, obtuse, (likely both) journalists asking a question that has already been asked and answered dozens of times, seeking the approval of their handful of fellow twatter subscribing numpty followers.

Still level 4

"The virus is not contained with the r number above 1 in at least some areas,hospitals will be able to cope with the admissions"

Chris Giles
@ChrisGiles_

Update: following today's data from hospitals and ONS data, a cautious estimate of the number of UK excess deaths during the coronavirus pandemic to 19 May is

61,900

Of these 54,522 have occurred, the rest are estimates
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2h
Replying to
@ChrisGiles_
Today's data from
@ONS
showed a big fall in excess deaths, but there were only 88 registrations on VE day (8 May), so was an undercount.

@NickStripe_ONS
estimates the figure was roughly 2,500 lower than a full week would have shown.

2/
Chris Giles
@ChrisGiles_
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2h
The distortions caused by VE day make estimates more difficult than normal.

If you take the data at face value, the model gives v strange results, suggesting fewer excess deaths between 5 May and today than those testing positive in daily official data.

3/
Chris Giles
@ChrisGiles_
·
2h
Alternatively, if you look at the proportion of non hospital deaths and project on that basis, the estimates would be too high.

So I have taken a mid point. It's not ideal. But these decisions have to be taken, not ducked, and need to be done transparently.


Chris Giles
@ChrisGiles_
·

The truth is that this week's ONS data showing 55,000 excess deaths during the pandemic is likely to be an underestimate of the situation.

Next week, the figures (with 6 days not 5) they are likely to show higher deaths. That will also be a distorted figure

good to see the boffins panicking

Why did the Govt put forward such an optimistic outlook for the Oxford vaccine trial on Sunday, when there seems to be evidence that it wasn't working?

I know the short answer is money, but why try to deceive the Public in such a blatant way?

Correct Des, he ramped hope up for that,maybe he has been misinformed? Though to be answering questions to the nation you would like to think his assertions then aren't shot down in a few hours.

With you there Eyeball.

Sunaks saying "there is no guarantee of a quick economic bounceback" is another beaut today.

right wing media led by torygraph buying in to any glimmer of light,same day sharma at daily briefing said there might never be a vaccine

same today daily mail/torygraph at 3,0 clock saying lowest deaths since lockdown 675 down in a week,5.30 after deaths in all settings were released same papers changed the 67 to 13% fall

the government is on a pre-warning mission this week

boffins - watch out for buses!
vaccine - forget it!
Jennie - no hotpants
recession - massive & long term

People would be lost only for The Guardian 1sttp.

On a side note, another thing I find strange is this sudden adopting of anosmia as a sympton of Covid. I mean, we have known for several weeks that loss of sense of smell and taste are prominent signs that a person could have the virus. Yesterday, I wasn't watching that closely, but I'm sure that i heard a consultant surgeon say that he carried on working for days after experiencing loss of taste and smell. Supposedly unaware that those symptoms indicated that he should've self-isolated. How could an eminent medical professional not know what most of us were well aware of?

They are being led by the science, and Cummings is telling the scientists what to tell him

Never more striking than today.



Johnson up against Starmer tomorrow

Spoilt for choice of questions, Johnson on the vallium tonite?

If you have loss of taste/smell, chances are you have a cold

So all you need now to get a covid test is have the sniffles and be over 5 years old

Coincidentally they need to test lots of people on 31st May to meet another self-imposed, meaningless target

Loss of taste/smell could be because of pollen count being high as well

Blocked nostrils are a big thing at this time of year, and of course if you have something up the nose chances are its going to become inflamed and run like a tap ffs

They are changing what a cold is, they are changing what pollen allergy's are

May 19, 2020 -- 7:00PM, Des Pond wrote:

On a side note, another thing I find strange is this sudden adopting of anosmia as a sympton of Covid. I mean, we have known for several weeks that loss of sense of smell and taste are prominent signs that a person could have the virus. Yesterday, I wasn't watching that closely, but I'm sure that i heard a consultant surgeon say that he carried on working for days after experiencing loss of taste and smell. Supposedly unaware that those symptoms indicated that he should've self-isolated. How could an eminent medical professional not know what most of us were well aware of?

They put it out there to get it known and then use it further down the line once more and more start experiencing that very loss of smell and/or taste

They waited for the pollen season to properly kick in and then added it, now anyone who loses sense of smell/taste right before dying on their death beds will be getting "covid" added to the death certificate

They are bumping the figures

Good point about loss of smell being Hayfever rather than Covid19


What UK needs is some type of test where people with symptoms can book a test and find out if they have an annoying but harmless pollen allergy or are infected by a dangerous virus.


Wonder if anybody in government or any scientists have considered rolling out this type of test Sont? Could be a really useful.

LOL, gawd love,m everyone one remember over the years people with cold,s,hay fever, drinking glasses of vinegar to prove they,d lost the sensation of taste,smell,go on we ,ve all don't it,, , NOT

When they say loss of smell they mean they can't smell out of one nostril ffs, proper hypochondriacs ffs

Peanut butter is the best thing, if you can't smell the contents of that you've got no sense of smell confirmed

Blocked nose doesn't mean loss of smell, you can still smell to some degree

Also Sont

Testing positive for Covid 19 doesn't necessarily mean loss of smell. It is just one possible symptom.

If anybody feels they may have been infected they can arrange for a test. Or do you think peanut butter is a better indication of knowing if have contracted the virus.

call me picky but there,s 3 people in the world I don't take corona advice from and there
doris
trump and
straty

Charley Van-Tam is a truly shockking omishunn from 1st TP

Within 10 days I predict the list of symptoms of Covid-19 will be updated to include "No symptoms at all" since there are undoubtedly a large proportion of covid cases who present with "No symptoms at all" and it's important that these people go get tested to confirm that they are indeed positive

No symptoms at all is quite good

Anyone who dies is covid, run over by a car? well the car got sneezed on and tested positive for covid

the blame game is about to play out

It's not a game.....the people responsible for causing thousands of extra deaths will be brought to account !

are you addressing me pûssy?

^ someone tell Flappy he/she/they/squiggle troll  is  blocked ....can't read it !

funny that; seeing as you posted this in response to my post.

The Leopard19 May 20 21:57Joined: 05 Apr 06 | Topic/replies: 45,154 | Blogger: The Leopard's blog

It's not a game.....the people responsible for causing thousands of extra deaths will be brought to account !

Leopard caught red handed

And Johnson surely has to be the fall guy along with Priti, Gove and Raab

Sunak the new PM

boffins will go first; everything has being prepped for weeks in regards to that. I still don't know how Bozo is going to get out of this mess tbh; he's going to need more than chucking boffins under a bus

Good job he got them 5 years as they're going to need it

We always knew the surveillance state was coming, the end of welfare the end of the human rights etc etc

They just needed a big enough event to sell it to the masses, and here we are

cmo/ csa
hancock
bozo

that was my order of leaving some time ago, who knows but i will stick with it

i'd not argue with that assumption. Maybe, just maybe Bozo has something else he'd rather be concentrating on? Priorites may well have shifted recently

i have never liked him but obviously felt sorry for him on a personal level with his near death experience. one thing i read, from someone who doesnt usually gossip, is that when he disappeared in february he was said to have been very depressed for a week whilst at chequers. it was said he was struggling with telling his children that he was to be a parent again whilst also dealing with the fallout from the end of his marriage. imo he is not a serious person, its great being a clown when things are going well but we need a serious leader now and sadly he isnt it.

well i didn't read somewhere what i posted above, but i've had it said to me by someone who knows more than i do about it. He's not a well man & i think anyone can see that. Even when he tries to sound positive now it doen't work; hence why he's in the background. PMQs will be interesting; if only to see how he stands up to the barrage he will undoubtedly get

Starmer won't savage him, he will ask questions for another day.

An attack that goes too far isn't even required

And may rebound on Starmer even though many are baying for it.

Don't want the jury becoming overly sympathetic to the accused

i have read about people 'recovering' but having symptoms for a long while after, sometimes completely different symptoms too which only adds to the confusion. he should have taken a lot longer off but obviously in that job it isnt possible.

starmer is just building a case, he knows he has years until an election and it may not be bozo he faces in the election.

i think it's inconceivable that some won't go after him

I wouldn't go after him if he's not well, there's a moral code and if a man is struggling you lay off and give him some slack

I'd resign if I was him though, he's been utterly useless throughout this whether its real or not

no morals in politics, SS we shall see what happens

Just got pm-ed this :

Baphornet • May 19, 2020 11:58 PM BST
funny that; seeing as you posted this in response to my post.

The Leopard19 May 20 21:57Joined: 05 Apr 06 | Topic/replies: 45,154 | Blogger: The Leopard's blog

It's not a game.....the people responsible for causing thousands of extra deaths will be brought to account !

I blocked you at 11.00pm....so you were...... and still are blocked !

Good night !

so you "blocked"me prior to me answering your uneducated snipe? Most strange; & dare i say - totally unbelievable Then again, you are just about the strangest & most besotted creature i have ever come across on forums. I'd post about wht ya had for tea if i was you; & leave stuff well alone you have no conception or knowledge about
including how to block your nemesis

why doesn't doris listen to his backers its only the flu and foooking man up,

Got pm-ed this :
.
Baphornet • May 20, 2020 9:25 AM BST
so you "blocked"me prior to me answering your uneducated snipe? Most strange; & dare i say - totally unbelievable Then again, you are just about the strangest & most besotted creature i have ever come across on forums. I'd post about wht ya had for tea if i was you; & leave stuff well alone you have no conception or knowledge about
including how to block your nemesis

Nematode mate ........ I think you will find that you are my nematode.

Wiki :
.

Nematodes that commonly parasitise humans include ascarids (Ascaris), filarias, hookworms, pinworms (Enterobius), and whipworms (Trichuris trichiura). The species Trichinella spiralis, commonly known as the 'trichina worm', occurs in rats, pigs, bears, and humans, and is responsible for the disease trichinosis. Baylisascaris usually infests wild animals, but can be deadly to humans, as well.

Dirofilaria immitis is known for causing heartworm disease by inhabiting the hearts, arteries, and lungs of dogs and some cats. Haemonchus contortus is one of the most abundant infectious agents in sheep around the world, causing great economic damage to sheep. In contrast, entomopathogenic nematodes parasitize insects and are mostly considered beneficial by humans, but some attack beneficial insects.

i'm not your "mate" pûssycat & i don't need to c&p Wiki to answer your nonsensical tripe.That's where you always fail you see; you can't compete, & get mullered exerytime you try. Your nano brain just doesn't function quickly enough to defeat your nemesis & running off to Wiki is a case in point
whoever is pm-ing you must be lurking behind the same curtain