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Obese people may be told to work from home after lockdown - as being severely overweight places them in the at risk group
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Imagine a phone call to the boss
I can't come to work as I've put weight on over the weekend and I'm now in the at risk category!
I can't come to work as I've put weight on over the weekend and I'm now in the at risk category!
the right,mr goves auld bird sensing a chance to shift the blame from the governments and her husbands shoite show and blaming fat people for their own demise
Back in the 60/70s, one hardly ever saw any young obese people. The few that you did, were usually down to an underlying medical condition.
Now, the towns and cities are full of them. I can understand people putting weight on as they get older and become less physically active, but folk in their 20s?
MacDonalds and computers and mobile phones have a lot to answer for.
Now, the towns and cities are full of them. I can understand people putting weight on as they get older and become less physically active, but folk in their 20s?
MacDonalds and computers and mobile phones have a lot to answer for.
Those acquiring obesity because of a genetic malfunction any form of assistance I'll approve. However, those not in this category but from over indulgence in food, and a lazy lifestyle may I suggest they begin to take more responsibility and less reliant on others, and the NHS for assistance ie start helping yourself as help is limited and scarce, and widely needed by those whose plights are not self-induced.
May 6, 2020 -- 1:57PM, themightymac wrote:
Back in the 60/70s, one hardly ever saw any young obese people. The few that you did, were usually down to an underlying medical condition. Now, the towns and cities are full of them. I can understand people putting weight on as they get older and become less physically active, but folk in their 20s? MacDonalds and computers and mobile phones have a lot to answer for.
Overall we are a weaker a society than we used to be physically,mentally and spiritually far more weak self indulgent people who have no shame relying on the state and blaming all bar themselves.
Obesity has been an issue for centuries.
To quote Shakespeare:
"Tubby or not tubby. Fat is the question."
To quote Shakespeare:
"Tubby or not tubby. Fat is the question."
All Fattys should have Benefits stopped... i drink beer/spirits 4/5 days/nights per week..but i go to the gym 3 times a week and do a Boxing workout...get of your arses Fat bstards
Or in reality
Obesity rate doubled in 20 years
2/3 overweight or obese, 29% obese.
Obesity rate doubled in 20 years
2/3 overweight or obese, 29% obese.
yum,yum,sausage rolls,cheese straws,fizzy drink,obligatory walking about ,must have snacks
BMI scanner at Check outs Heavy basterds buying sugary products TAXED , why does everyone have to pay sugar taxes , because of people who don't give a fook ??
daily mail running this article
the mail for last 2 weeks has had greegs,pizza express,wagamama,etc,etc showing people how to make their and their kids fav calorie busting favs at home
the mail for last 2 weeks has had greegs,pizza express,wagamama,etc,etc showing people how to make their and their kids fav calorie busting favs at home
Getting the kids addicted under the guise of 'health'
It's like saying inhaling heroin is better for you than injecting and people believe this nonsense
It's like saying inhaling heroin is better for you than injecting and people believe this nonsense
I don't read the Mail , Regardless anything Home Made will be a lot healthier than half the shyte being sold in shops , But agree hardly the greatest food to be giving to kids , The problem is Greed , People eat too much shyte .....
Wounded, get off your arses fat bstards, think the government should use that as slogan in their next obesity initiative.
why dont they keep fast food joints closed down for as long as possible ?maccy ds, kfc, greggs, etc.
Fast food joints just made the culture social like pubs and pi$$ heads and clubs and junkies,like those people they'll still be ramming similar shyte at home into their bodies as the problem is systemic and mental more than anything
work plays a massive role. In years gone, one wage was enough to run a home with the house wife/husband cooking, cleaning, child minding etc...
Now whilst the likes of Bezos are able to sign 30 billion off to a wife who done nothing to earn it, couples have to work in order to pay bills whilst having the honour of being paid buttons.
add in long commutes and dealing with kids when you get home and you have barely 2/3 hours in your day before its bed time.
Now whilst the likes of Bezos are able to sign 30 billion off to a wife who done nothing to earn it, couples have to work in order to pay bills whilst having the honour of being paid buttons.
add in long commutes and dealing with kids when you get home and you have barely 2/3 hours in your day before its bed time.
people getting knighted,called hero,s for delivering fat on a plate to front doors
you couldn't buy a penny arrow bar with the money ive put into a takeaways till over the last 30 years
‘Genetically obese’ hows that work?
Does it mean that if they were locked away in a Russian Gulag for 5 years they would still come out fat.
Does it mean that if they were locked away in a Russian Gulag for 5 years they would still come out fat.
Many adults that are obese are a product of massive increase in CSA that started in the 70s.
A third of girls and a sixth of boys.
It is something that as a society we are not willing to talk about because it is so horrible.
A third of girls and a sixth of boys.
It is something that as a society we are not willing to talk about because it is so horrible.
TODAYS UNDER MAILS OBESE headli9ne,and sarah vine obese attack,mail show how to make 8 of your fav famous coffee branded sugar filled coffee,s
m2 greggs closed.only foriegn takeaways open
people started being obese when thatcher took their work away and decided it was better to give them handouts than work for a living.
people started being obese when thatcher took their work away and decided it was better to give them handouts than work for a living.
people getting knighted,called hero,s for delivering fat on a plate to front doors
aint this the effing truth
aint this the effing truth
starbucks, greggs, pret a mange, McDonald and a nice domino,s takeaway to make it 5 a day
Friend of mine was upset about two local deaths-said that both were young and had no underlying health conditions. I looked them up -one was 51 and the other 42 -does that count as young? Pictures showed that both had been clearly been in training for a pie eating competition. No underlying health conditions -I know what Jim Royle would have said.
all the free shoite takeaways given to nhs workers will take the average weight for an nhs worker to about 18 stone
It's possibly part of this, 'new normal', balderdash.
They're not fat they're just vulnerable.
George would say it's unnormal.
They're not fat they're just vulnerable.
George would say it's unnormal.
Wow...... Just watched tonights The Simpsons... Homer could've read this thread
if you didn't watch it........... it was all about Homer putting on a load of weight to get off work. and the first thread i see today is this one. Weird
Maybe the government could ask those with obesity or a BMI larger than 27 to work for their handout eg adopt an exercise regime. The state cannot pay them to be unhealthy and also treat them to still alive or prolong their lives.
Being a greedy fat slob isnt an underlying condition and they need to be made to work as soon as anyone else has to. If they are scared then they can diet. If not well thats their choice isnt it. I mean anyone with an ounce of sense has had two months already to help themselves.
I believe they stated anyone with a bmi of over 40 was at risk, although you could be at that level yet you're a weightlifter without an ounce of fat on you.
The index is years out of date and not fit for purpose, perhaps.
Asking obese people to stay at home without wiring their jaws up is a death sentence.
The index is years out of date and not fit for purpose, perhaps.
Asking obese people to stay at home without wiring their jaws up is a death sentence.
Mind you, enough has been said about Gary wiltshire elsewhere.
The guy has been moaning that he can't get motivated to leave the house and now the government is reaffirming his position.
The guy has been moaning that he can't get motivated to leave the house and now the government is reaffirming his position.
The index is years out of date and not fit for purpose, perhaps.
That's definitely the case for people who've gained muscle mass lifting weights,the Rugby player analogy is the easiest to understand.
That's definitely the case for people who've gained muscle mass lifting weights,the Rugby player analogy is the easiest to understand.
Other factors are hormones in our food meat,dairy,fish etc. and hormones in our water especially phyto estrogens which very young girls are susceptible to warping their rate of development.
Their are also creams which contain hormones which seip through the skin which do similar.
Their are also creams which contain hormones which seip through the skin which do similar.
The above comments are relating to the index and why we on the whole are bigger I'm not excusing the lazy greedy fat types
I've never seen a fat person in a famine area, has anyone? To me FAT(T) = convenient food = over indulgence/inactivity. If unconvinced just look at the new foreigners who've also adopted the diet ad lifestyle of their host.
I'd like to see the NHS start charging the obesity brigade.
I'd like to see the NHS start charging the obesity brigade.
I sometimes think it doesn't really matter what you eat or even how much of it. It's whether or not you carry it home from the shops. That's something virtually nobody does any more.
You look back to the sixties and seventies, when hardly anyone was overweight, and one big difference is that sugar consumption was far higher back then, but it didn't matter because housewives carried those heavy bags of sugar home with them. The lack of refrigerators also made a difference. My family couldn't afford one until the eighties, which meant walking to the shops and back every day, and carrying lots of heavy, tinned items to boot.
These days some people might walk or jog or cycle for exercise, and some might drive to the gym to lift weights. But, outside of a building site, no one anywhere carries anything from A to B any longer. And certainly not on a daily or regular basis.
The energy expended on carrying something is way more than that used merely to walk the same distance or lift the same item.
You look back to the sixties and seventies, when hardly anyone was overweight, and one big difference is that sugar consumption was far higher back then, but it didn't matter because housewives carried those heavy bags of sugar home with them. The lack of refrigerators also made a difference. My family couldn't afford one until the eighties, which meant walking to the shops and back every day, and carrying lots of heavy, tinned items to boot.
These days some people might walk or jog or cycle for exercise, and some might drive to the gym to lift weights. But, outside of a building site, no one anywhere carries anything from A to B any longer. And certainly not on a daily or regular basis.
The energy expended on carrying something is way more than that used merely to walk the same distance or lift the same item.
Lots of good points which I agree with,sugar isn't the enemy though the thinnest people in the world and the most underweight imo. 'healthy' people are raw food fruitarians who exist on between 80-95% sugar.
Walter Kempner reversed diabetes and many other chronic illnesses on a diet consisting on white rice,fruit juice,fruit and table sugar officially in 1939 and he did this with people who's life was in urgent danger from their conditions.
The standard consisted of around 565 grams carbs 25 grams protein 5g fat
https://www.drmcdougall.com/2013/12/31/walter-kempner-md-founder-of-the-rice-diet/
Fat,animal protein and sugar together is the problem i.e our 'balanced' diets and the processed garbage ontop
Walter Kempner reversed diabetes and many other chronic illnesses on a diet consisting on white rice,fruit juice,fruit and table sugar officially in 1939 and he did this with people who's life was in urgent danger from their conditions.
The standard consisted of around 565 grams carbs 25 grams protein 5g fat
https://www.drmcdougall.com/2013/12/31/walter-kempner-md-founder-of-the-rice-diet/
Fat,animal protein and sugar together is the problem i.e our 'balanced' diets and the processed garbage ontop
May 6, 2020 -- 10:31PM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:
I sometimes think it doesn't really matter what you eat or even how much of it. It's whether or not you carry it home from the shops. That's something virtually nobody does any more. You look back to the sixties and seventies, when hardly anyone was overweight, and one big difference is that sugar consumption was far higher back then, but it didn't matter because housewives carried those heavy bags of sugar home with them. The lack of refrigerators also made a difference. My family couldn't afford one until the eighties, which meant walking to the shops and back every day, and carrying lots of heavy, tinned items to boot.These days some people might walk or jog or cycle for exercise, and some might drive to the gym to lift weights. But, outside of a building site, no one anywhere carries anything from A to B any longer. And certainly not on a daily or regular basis.The energy expended on carrying something is way more than that used merely to walk the same distance or lift the same item.
Of course if you expand more energy through carrying heavy stuff all the time, you are free to indulge in higher quantities of all your favourite foods (and you might buy less to begin with because it's such a nuisance). Similarly however, even if you are a total couch potato, your most exhausting activity is finding and putting on a fresh pair of underpants every three days, and you simply adapt your calory intake to your below average calory necessities, you will get nowhere near being overweight.
Far too many people simply fail to bring their energy intake into harmony with their energy needs. Whether you move or not doesn't really matter as far as weight is concerned. That's really the entire secret to weight. (though of course there are other potential consequences that come with a total lack of physical activity and the quality and composition of your food).
screaming from beneaththewaves
Sorry screaming misread your post about the sugar agree 100% with your post
Sorry screaming misread your post about the sugar agree 100% with your post
I stopped reading at "sugar consumption far higher in the 70s than what it is now 
wolf3011 I've found articles which confirm what screaming says
https://www.google.com/search?q=did+we+consume+more+sugar+in+the+70s+compared+to+now&client=firefox-b-d&ei=kEKzXuSJAYWOlwSK37mYBA&start=10&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwjkkajTrKDpAhUFx4UKHYpvDkMQ8tMDegQIDRAz&biw=1129&bih=654
https://www.google.com/search?q=did+we+consume+more+sugar+in+the+70s+compared+to+now&client=firefox-b-d&ei=kEKzXuSJAYWOlwSK37mYBA&start=10&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwjkkajTrKDpAhUFx4UKHYpvDkMQ8tMDegQIDRAz&biw=1129&bih=654
As illustrated by the above chart, which shows yearly average sugar consumption for a person in the UK, sugar reached its high point of consumption around 1980
https://chocolateclass.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/a-sweet-conquest-how-sugar-o...
Interesting to see sugar consumption is going down.my take on it is that yes we are less manual than we were which is one thing but the quality of the food we eat is the other.
It is at times hard to imagine how big our soldiers were back in the day. Try on WW2 uniforms or and especially 19th Century uniforms.
The food we are getting now is not great but it is abundant! We don’t work on the land. Mass produced food is generally tasteless and when it becomes convenience food there is little goodness in it either. To replace the lost taste sugar, salt and fat are added. This is why we are a nation of fat bastards oh and we are lazy fat bastards at that.
It is at times hard to imagine how big our soldiers were back in the day. Try on WW2 uniforms or and especially 19th Century uniforms.
The food we are getting now is not great but it is abundant! We don’t work on the land. Mass produced food is generally tasteless and when it becomes convenience food there is little goodness in it either. To replace the lost taste sugar, salt and fat are added. This is why we are a nation of fat bastards oh and we are lazy fat bastards at that.
This is the only period in the entire history of the world that the poor are fat.
Food now is cheap, abundant and convenient - and most of it tastes really good. People don't eat because they
are hungry, they eat because it is a nice thing to do.
Portion size has gone out the window.
When I were a lad.....food was cooked and eaten at home by your Mom.
How much would you have to spend now if you were eating out now to get a meal which involves vegetables. Rubbish food is cheap.
are hungry, they eat because it is a nice thing to do.
Portion size has gone out the window.
When I were a lad.....food was cooked and eaten at home by your Mom.
How much would you have to spend now if you were eating out now to get a meal which involves vegetables. Rubbish food is cheap.
The sugar chart is interesting. I don't know many people that have sugar in tea or coffee, but I am sure in earlier generations 2 spoons per cup was normal
and, over a week, that would add up.
and, over a week, that would add up.
as people know if been to states ( and noticed in uk now ) , big portions and if dont finish them in restaurants get them in a box to takeaway. why not littler portions ?
When I was young a quarter ponder was considered a big burger and I had trouble finishing one. Nowadays a half pounder seems to be the norm or maybe two half pounders in some cases.
The abundance of food has taken people off the land and freed them up to make money for rich people.
The quality of food is one of the main issues for me. This covid-19 / Corona is just a start point for people being cooped up too close together and add in the disgusting treatment of live and dead animals in close proximity with each other and humans has lead us to where we are now. Further to that it will happen again and it may well be far worse. Covid-19 has been a mild warning from nature.
What is also interesting is watching the World recover from us! We are not destroying the planet we are destroying the human race.
The quality of food is one of the main issues for me. This covid-19 / Corona is just a start point for people being cooped up too close together and add in the disgusting treatment of live and dead animals in close proximity with each other and humans has lead us to where we are now. Further to that it will happen again and it may well be far worse. Covid-19 has been a mild warning from nature.
What is also interesting is watching the World recover from us! We are not destroying the planet we are destroying the human race.
The average Briton consumes 50 per cent more calories than they realise, according to the first estimates from the Office for National Statistics. The new data show that men are the worst at kidding themselves - typically consuming 1,000 more calories than they estimate every day - while women eat about 800 calories more than they account for.
And the more people eat, the less reliable their estimates are, the research found.
Experts said the delusion occurs because people do not like to “be taken for slobs” - and ended up lying to themselves.
The revelation comes as Public Health England (PHE) prepares to launch a calorie counting campaign, as part of efforts to combat Britain’s obesity epidemic.
And the more people eat, the less reliable their estimates are, the research found.
Experts said the delusion occurs because people do not like to “be taken for slobs” - and ended up lying to themselves.
The revelation comes as Public Health England (PHE) prepares to launch a calorie counting campaign, as part of efforts to combat Britain’s obesity epidemic.
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The sugar chart is interesting. I don't know many people that have sugar in tea or coffee, but I am sure in earlier generations 2 spoons per cup was normal
and, over a week, that would add up.
Exactly. I was brought up with two spoons of sugar in my tea. It was unthinkable to drink it with any less.
Also worth remembering that sugar is an excellent preservative, which is another reason so much more of it used to be consumed in the days before everyone had a fridge. My mother used to slave for days through the autumn making jam with bag after bag of sugar. (And runner beans used to be canned in old pickle jars with vast quantities of salt - people would have a fit if they saw how much of that we used to consume.)
But, as I said, it was irrelevant. The fact that she was walking a mile to the shops and back every day carrying these 2 lb bags of Tate & Lyle left her as thin as a rake all her life. Especially when you add the bags of caster sugar she needed for the rock cakes she used to bake virtually every day. (Being allowed to lick out the sugary bowl afterwards - what a blissful memory.)
The sugar chart is interesting. I don't know many people that have sugar in tea or coffee, but I am sure in earlier generations 2 spoons per cup was normal
and, over a week, that would add up.
Exactly. I was brought up with two spoons of sugar in my tea. It was unthinkable to drink it with any less.
Also worth remembering that sugar is an excellent preservative, which is another reason so much more of it used to be consumed in the days before everyone had a fridge. My mother used to slave for days through the autumn making jam with bag after bag of sugar. (And runner beans used to be canned in old pickle jars with vast quantities of salt - people would have a fit if they saw how much of that we used to consume.)
But, as I said, it was irrelevant. The fact that she was walking a mile to the shops and back every day carrying these 2 lb bags of Tate & Lyle left her as thin as a rake all her life. Especially when you add the bags of caster sugar she needed for the rock cakes she used to bake virtually every day. (Being allowed to lick out the sugary bowl afterwards - what a blissful memory.)
It's a lot easier to control your weight through what you eat than however much exercise you do.
Exercise is helpful but the calories and the nature of the food consumed is critical.
The biggest delusion ever would be thinking fat people don't in nearly all cases eat too much.
Exercise is helpful but the calories and the nature of the food consumed is critical.
The biggest delusion ever would be thinking fat people don't in nearly all cases eat too much.
licking the bowl! loved it!
My mum used to make burgers, they were called hamburgers back in the day. They would be hand rolled of course although she did ashley get a press at some point because of well you know why...kids wanted their hamburgers to be flat and the same shape as birdseye with absolutely no taste!
Well my mum's burgers were odd shapes, none flat like Birdseye. She put onions and green peppers in them. When fried they broke open and fat oused out of the cracks. To make it worse she made her own tomato ketchup with garlic. It wasn't smooth and tasteless and full of sugar like Heinze so of course I hated it.
Tears well up when I think of those days and those burgers! The tears ashley fall down my cheeks when I go into " gastro pubs " and have to pay £16 for their House Burger. I am absolutely inconsolable when I have to pay £13 for just an ordinary but decent burger in a non gastro pub!
What I would give for my mum's old home made hamburgers now? Easily worth £20 a throw when you add in the home made tomato and garlic ketchup!
My mum used to make burgers, they were called hamburgers back in the day. They would be hand rolled of course although she did ashley get a press at some point because of well you know why...kids wanted their hamburgers to be flat and the same shape as birdseye with absolutely no taste!
Well my mum's burgers were odd shapes, none flat like Birdseye. She put onions and green peppers in them. When fried they broke open and fat oused out of the cracks. To make it worse she made her own tomato ketchup with garlic. It wasn't smooth and tasteless and full of sugar like Heinze so of course I hated it.
Tears well up when I think of those days and those burgers! The tears ashley fall down my cheeks when I go into " gastro pubs " and have to pay £16 for their House Burger. I am absolutely inconsolable when I have to pay £13 for just an ordinary but decent burger in a non gastro pub!
What I would give for my mum's old home made hamburgers now? Easily worth £20 a throw when you add in the home made tomato and garlic ketchup!
Ha. Ha. Just this minute finished making a carrot cake and cleaned the bowl out and ate it....absolutely delicious - and the first time in years.
My wife would have stopped me...raw egg and all that..had she been there!
My wife would have stopped me...raw egg and all that..had she been there!
Good for you! I challenge you to drink some orange juice straight out of the carton in front of her!
Jokes aside we have huaoge economic problems in front of us that have been ignored by the Government. Next chapter of this farce is about to start.
When I were a lad.....food was cooked and eaten at home by your Mom.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/11242764/coronavirus-girl-meltdown-mcdonalds-nandos-shut-home-cooking/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/11242764/coronavirus-girl-meltdown-mcdonalds-nandos-shut-home-cooking/
Also you had a choice, you either eat it or you don't. None of this cooking different meals for each member of the family.
Couple of mega packs of crisps and half trolley of fizzy pop.
fcek me if we didn't get our " pop " off the Corona van every Tuesday!
Crisps. The barometer of our obesity.
We might have had ONE single bag of crisps a week, maybe with a bottle of pop on a Saturday.
Now, even in supermarkets, you can buy them buy the BOX, maybe 36....
We might have had ONE single bag of crisps a week, maybe with a bottle of pop on a Saturday.
Now, even in supermarkets, you can buy them buy the BOX, maybe 36....
Towards the end of last year I remember watching a great documentary on the BBC commemorating the 1969 Woodstock Festival(which I would recommend any music lover to watch) - one of my residing memories of the programme was that in all the half million or so people there wasn't a fatty to be seen !!
which to me suggest less to do with exercise and more to do with food and additives!
Its a perfect storm. Less physical work, more sedentary work, less public transport/cycle/walk, more private cars, less home cooking, more takeaways,
less meat and veg, more carbs, more additives, less participation in sport, more participation in gaming, less going out, more staying in.
When was the word 'snack' invented? I can't remember ever having a 'snack' when I was a kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeaZ3DEQEyo
From 10 seconds in. Not a fatty to be seen.
less meat and veg, more carbs, more additives, less participation in sport, more participation in gaming, less going out, more staying in.
When was the word 'snack' invented? I can't remember ever having a 'snack' when I was a kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeaZ3DEQEyo
From 10 seconds in. Not a fatty to be seen.
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