Chit Chat
Who would you trust , this brave Lady or di*kheads like that Ferguson ???
You decide
May 9, 2020 -- 12:04PM, Charlie wrote:
I don't think the virus was caused by the flue vaccine, and don't believe wearing a mask will kill more people than the virus. What sources are you referring to?
Still no sources?
What do you think the NIAID did for the Wuhan lab Charlie?
If a patient has similar covid symptoms but hasn’t been tested, it is appropriate to put covid as the cause of death.
‘With covid = death from covid.’
‘We are extraordinarily confident there will be a pandemic in the next few years’.
Bizarre phrase. Why not worried instead of confident?
Birx and the CDC comments are incredible.
Revealed: UK ministers were warned last year of risks of coronavirus pandemic
This is not news.
Just one question...what did you think of the Fauci-Wuhan tie up?
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how many discredited grifters have found a new lease of life with this
Far too many
How many of them ever publish any work that's peer reviewed upholding any of their claims?
May 9, 2020 -- 3:50PM, aaronh wrote:
how many discredited grifters have found a new lease of life with this
Every time a disaster occurs be it man-made, natural or technological, every time a new technology is introduced, every time a common occurrence occurs which has a natural explanation, every time something fcking happens you will get conspiritards queuing up to say it a conspiracy of some sort. That's how they make their money. And every time you will get the normal loonies on here agreeing with them.
How many are prevented from publishing anything at all which goes against controlled norms?
How many are prevented from publishing anything at all through gagging orders,threats and imprisonment?
Charlie your head is up your arse
May 9, 2020 -- 3:58PM, Injera wrote:
Ok you’ve made up your mind. Good for you. Just one question...what did you think of the Fauci-Wuhan tie up?
Your questions are becoming a bit tiresome as the whole video you are obsessed with has no basis of fact about anything. Just to answer though I'd go with one of many links such as:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anthony-fauci-wuhan-lab-coronavirus-source-dismissal/
Dr. Fauci again dismisses Wuhan lab as source of coronavirus
These things aren't difficult to find so why not read a few of them? That was rhetorical because you don't want to find the truth you want a conspiracy and facts don't support that.
How many are prevented from publishing anything at all which goes against controlled norms?
How many are prevented from publishing anything at all through gagging orders,threats and imprisonment?
Fcuk all is the answer.
May 9, 2020 -- 4:13PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:
How many are prevented from publishing anything at all due to controls of funding?How many are prevented from publishing anything at all which goes against controlled norms?How many are prevented from publishing anything at all through gagging orders,threats and imprisonment?Charlie your head is up your arse
So you are quoting from the video. You have no idea about any of those things but choose to believe a nut job. That doesn't rely surprise me.
May 9, 2020 -- 4:15PM, stridingedge wrote:
How many are prevented from publishing anything at all due to controls of funding?How many are prevented from publishing anything at all which goes against controlled norms?How many are prevented from publishing anything at all through gagging orders,threats and imprisonment?Fcuk all is the answer.
striding you couldn't be more wrong it's common knowledge and the practice of censoring research and even peer reviewed studies is openly discussed and commonplace in the US.
Do some searches,I came across these practices researching nutrition and is far greater (due to big pharma and the wedge involved) in medicine.
For me that was a reason perhaps not to rush in and believe all of her allegations seen just from her side.
I've looked into her allegations and claims of her own worth regarding work she has done and have found NOTHING of proof behind any of them.
Unless I see some actual proof scientifically with any of her claims about vaccines, she is someone I place very little weight in regarding where I would care to get my information from.
You are far more generous than I am stridingedge.
I consider her a failed, rogue, lying scientist who got booted out and resorted to being a conspiritard. Probably a more lucrative career though.
Mate sent this Plandemic thing to watch, but I've been busy with work and hadn't watched it. He posted about it on Facebook and saw this posted in reply to it, and upon doing a bit of research I think I'll just save the time and watch Uncle David's next sitdown with that mug Brian Rose.
"This lady is the "go to" doctor for conspiracy theorists. If you have a conspiracy theory and you need a doctor's input, Judy will provide.
The stuff she claims about vaccines and "Big pharma" in the vast majority of cases is just flat out wrong. Most vaccines administered these days are off patent and very cheap to produce. Too cheap, in fact. Many pharmaceutical companies don't want to manufacture them because there's no profit in it and they have to be compelled or incentivised by states to continue producing them.
It's strange how Dr. Mikovits hasn't published any of her "current research" in ANY scientific or medical journals. (I say "ANY" because there are some dodgy AF journals out there that'll publish anything.) Sure, she's unlikely to feature in the Lancet any time soon since her earlier published work has been discredited. (No other labs were able to reproduce her claims and eventually the paper was retracted).
Dr. Mikovits could attempt to redeem herself by publishing good, empirical evidence for her claims in an obscure journal... It will have to be an obscure one since the big, well read journals tend to avoid publishing things by discredited researchers... If her evidence and methods are good and fair then bigger labs will attempt to reproduce it and eventually it would end up in a main-stream journal. But Dr. Mikovits doesn't do this, instead, she appears on YouTube videos claiming to be a victim of the "Deep State" and "Big Pharma".
"Big Pharma" is a nasty business, don't get me wrong but for practically none of the reasons mentioned in this... eugh... "documentary". The pharmaceutical industry continues to get away with most of its nastiness to this day because people continue to focus on crazy nonsense. The actual evil is so much more mundane and boring. It is well discussed in the book Bad Pharma by Dr. Ben Goldacre. Go give that a read (or a listen on audiobooks)."
If you discredit her and are unnecessarily rude, you obviously discredit the doctors also featured? I suppose all doctors who disagree with you are whack jobs.
May 9, 2020 -- 5:43PM, Injera wrote:
Hilarious! You clearly haven’t watched it so why not be honest? I asked you about Fauci and Wuhan and you completely miss the point...If you discredit her and are unnecessarily rude, you obviously discredit the doctors also featured? I suppose all doctors who disagree with you are whack jobs.
I take it that's directed at me.
Tell me the point about Fauci and Wuhan please. I have no idea, nor do you, who the doctors who were featured are and in what context they were discussing things and I'm not sure what their argument was.
List the claims this woman makes that you or I or anyone can go and back up with evidence based research.
That's all I ask.
Stop talking in riddles. Say something in plain English or is that beyond you.
Re masks, her point is if you have covid, it may harm you to wear a mask as it may lead to a higher viral load. She states ventilators can be counterproductive which is now more widely accepted . Also that hospitals receive 13k for each covid patient and 39k if they go on a ventilator. If you can find anyone who disputes that last point I shall be glad to hear.
If you could just watch the damn video......
evidence...
I'll dispute that. She was talking US Medevac.
May 9, 2020 -- 6:19PM, Injera wrote:
She said to stop people going to the beach is insanity given for centuries it’s been considered good for health and immunity.If you could just watch the damn video......
She mentions two words, can't remember what they were, but absolutely no correlation to covid. She's just making stuff up.
At the time of HIV’s discovery, Mikovits was a lab technician in Francis Ruscetti’s lab at NCI and had yet to receive her Ph.D. There is no evidence that she was part of the team that first isolated the virus. Her first published paper, co-authored with Ruscetti, was on HIV and published in May 1986, 2 years after Science published four landmark papers that linked HIV (then called HTLV-III by Gallo’s lab) to AIDS. Ruscetti’s first paper on HIV appeared in August 1985. There is no evidence that Fauci held up either paper or that this led to the death of millions.
evidence or more of the same unsubstantiated accusation?
Mikovits’s Ph.D. thesis, “Negative Regulation of HIV Expression in Monocytes,” had no discernible impact on the treatment of HIV/AIDS.
After police in Ventura County, California, arrested and jailed Judy Mikovits on 18 November, they gave few details about the felony charges levied against the well-known chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) researcher. According to the Ventura County Sheriff, she was a fugitive from justice arrested on a warrant from Washoe County, Nevada, and was "not bailable."
Now ScienceInsider has learned that her felony arrest warrant was issued by the Reno Justice Court in Washoe County. The District Attorney there has charged Mikovits with "possession of stolen property," according to a document filed with the court, and "unlawful taking of computer data, equipment, supplies, or other computer related property." Mikovits's former employer, the Whittemore Peterson Institute (WPI) for Neuro-Immune Disease in Reno, also filed court documents yesterday that further shed light on the arrest
Mark Twain wisely said "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
We are the real sheep, baaaaa.
May 9, 2020 -- 6:29PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:
Injera you're wasting your time repeating your postsMark Twain wisely said "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Well said Denzil, he is wasting his time repeating his posts. And she is trying to fool people.
May 9, 2020 -- 6:31PM, stridingedge wrote:
Yes us idiots trying to look at the bigger picture rather than swallow everything whole from a one sided youtube interview in advance of a book coming out.We are the real sheep, baaaaa.
Here's some examples to be getting on with from a site which is the place to go for scientific research and studies,these are open ones on the most popular site that should tell you something.
There are many examples if you start searching of corrupt practices which revolve around funding and what studies are allowed to be done,released and withdrawn and so on.
This is an accepted practice of science since the 60s,do you really think it there are 'Fcuk all' examples and all science is done to the best for the greater good with money not being an issue.
Need I go on......
May 9, 2020 -- 6:35PM, Charlie wrote:
It's about time Denzil you started another thread about weak people running away as you will no doubt do soon.
Charlzi noticed you did a runner quick last week when The Village People outed themselves last week openly pining over two blokes having a conversation on a YT video
This woman makes some extremely lofty claims that vaccines have killed millions with NO PROOF, her own work was rubbished but she has done very well with her marketing for her latest book.
May 9, 2020 -- 8:16PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:
They're hardly going to advertise all that's wrong with vaccines when it's likely vaccination is the main reason for a global pandemic - follow the money it leads to Uncle Bill and the Rockerfellers.
Free thinking FTW 
So watched it, looked at evidence that discredits it and watched it for a 2nd time.
There is NOTHING from the opening 30 seconds that starts off inflating who she actually is or what work she has ever actually accomplished that cannot be at least seriously contested with or completely rubbished with fact.Nearly everything she alleges has no supporting evidence. A few irate doctors in support with claims that can also be seriously contested is hardly a supporting cast that inspires confidence to back up her grand conspiracy claims.
We've had the video and links have been posted with regard to the discrediting so people will make up their own minds.
I'd hate to be in a court with some of you feckers on the jury,once the prosecution finished the opening speech that would be it.
There's a reason and that's because of the lawsuits for subsequent illness,injury and death were off the scale therefore the laws had to be changed to protect big pharma.
May 9, 2020 -- 8:26PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:
Did you know striding that pharmaceutical companies are immune from vaccine related prosecutions?There's a reason and that's because of the lawsuits for subsequent illness,injury and death were off the scale therefore the laws had to be changed to protect big pharma.
Obv took their jabs.
What will you jump on next week? The grifter of the week that claims the virus was created by Bill Gates himself, then tested on transgender baby kittens before finally being released in China in order to chip everyone?
You can put this sort of thing in the same bracket as a Preacher promising a safe passage to heaven if you send him enough money.
May 9, 2020 -- 9:18PM, edy wrote:
Please don't be so intolerant.
Please stop telling lies and misrepresenting posts - sidenote - stop posting h o m o erotic thoughts on public forums.
https://www.globaljustice.org.uk/sites/default/files/files/resources/gjn_gates_report_june_2016_web_final_version_2.pdf
May 9, 2020 -- 9:21PM, mad mad moon wrote:
I can’t believe that people of average intelligence (And not from the USA) can give these sort of things any credence whatsoever.You can put this sort of thing in the same bracket as a Preacher promising a safe passage to heaven if you send him enough money.
It's all hysterical. They're letting themselves be lead by bible-thumpers across the pond riled up by Rush Limbaugh. But Bill Gates, two centuries of medical research, and Google removing grifters from their platform is the real conspiracy
Let’s look at the BBC regarding where I live in West Sussex. This is what they say:
There are 1,227 confirmed cases in West Sussex, out of a local population of 858,852 - so 0.142% of people here have tested positive.
In West Sussex there were 284 coronavirus-related deaths up to the 24 April. 0.033% of people have so far died.
In this area 14% of all deaths involved coronavirus between 29 February and 24 April
Note: Cases only include people who have had a positive test for the virus. Not everyone with the virus will have had a test. Deaths include any death where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate. Death data updated weekly, cases updated daily.
‘Deaths include any death where covid 19 was mentioned’
Many doctors including those on the video are feeling pressure to put covid on the DC. ‘Suspect covid’ is also used. Notice the word ‘related’ too. It’s key.
The deaths are related to covid. By definition they have to be related to other things too. They of course are not mentioned.
Mikovits and other doctors in this video are questioning this data. Without exception the videos are removed upon doing so. I’ve even read the phrase on Sky ‘covid linked deaths.’ Couldn’t be more opaque yet revealing a truth that these deaths are caused by a combination of factors.
No I don’t think it’s silly to question what we’re told. In fact it’s important we do. As 0.033% of my county have died from a covid related illness, I plan to live as normal a life as is possible, which is what I’ve done for the last month.
No, only the grifters that you keep jumping onto.
May 10, 2020 -- 12:17AM, GRANTCKING wrote:
100% covid is planned and fake!
As a poker player had you as far on the other side of the road on this as possible.
May 9, 2020 -- 9:03PM, TimmyRiggins wrote:
May 9, 2020 -- 7:26PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:Did you know striding that pharmaceutical companies are immune from vaccine related prosecutions?There's a reason and that's because of the lawsuits for subsequent illness,injury and death were off the scale therefore the laws had to be changed to protect big pharma.Obv took their jabs.
Is that not the case TR?
May 9, 2020 -- 8:38PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:
I'm open minded about vaccines but won't be queueing to get one unnecessarily without proper research and hindsight,they are going out of their way to discredit people who speak on this subject which is a concern.
when you are contradicting the official narrative, there is no freedom of speech
May 10, 2020 -- 7:53PM, TimmyRiggins wrote:
That they all had their vaccines, so they were immune. I'm not sure, it was a quip.
ok
May 10, 2020 -- 8:00PM, wondersobright wrote:
May 9, 2020 -- 7:38PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:I'm open minded about vaccines but won't be queueing to get one unnecessarily without proper research and hindsight,they are going out of their way to discredit people who speak on this subject which is a concern.when you are contradicting the official narrative, there is no freedom of speech
Agree
https://youtu.be/lsRay1wInBg
The CDC, as far back as April 5 (which is when the first available screenshot is available on the internet wayback machine), states that the numbers include presumed and probable cases btw.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
