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Chancellor Rishi Sunak’s economic rescue package has been credited with a 24-point leap in overall trust to a 60 per cent approval rating, which is a historic high.
Having been at the bottom of the pile in January, trust in the UK Government's leaders jumped 25 points to 58 per cent and, overtaking CEOs and NGO representatives. A majority of respondents (53 per cent) said they trust their “national government leader” to lead the country through the economic recovery.
Public trust in government was highest in China (95 per cent), India (87 per cent) and Saudi Arabia (83 percent), while France (48 per cent), the US (48 per cent) and Japan (38 per cent) had the lowest trust levels.
The UK, which was mid-range, had the strongest increase in trust of 24 points, followed by Canada (20 points) and Germany (19 points).
Business has moderately benefited from increased levels of trust in institutions among the general public, but has failed to keep pace with trust in government. Trust in business grew by eight points since January, but is trusted by just 55 per cent of the UK public, compared with 60 per cent for the Government.
Business underperformed on ‘putting people before profits’ (32 per cent) and ‘helping other small businesses in need’ (29 per cent). Only 28 per cent of respondents feel business is doing well at preparing for the recovery.
Trust in traditional media (61 per cent) was sharply up to near-record levels; however, UK journalists scored poorly (22 per cent) for their response to the global health emergency. Respondents struggle to find reliable and trustworthy information about the virus and its effects (41 per cent), and nearly two-thirds worry about the volume of fake news being spread about the virus.
Pandemic response failures
Although the headline trust level for the UK Government is strong, respondents were less enamoured by how it has handled the medical crisis and its public health policy.
Only 24 per cent think the Government has done a good job on testing, 32 per cent on the distribution of medical supplies like PPE, and 33 per cent on ensuring access to care in the poorest parts of the country.
Almost three in five respondents said the government had failed to act in a decisive manner as soon as the threat of the virus became known. Since the beginning of March, there has been an 11-point decline in the proportion of people who believe the Government was prepared for dealing with the pandemic – a fall from 46 per cent to 35 per cent.
This should serve as a warning to the Government. About three-quarters of the UK respondents believe its top priority should be to save lives, even if that delays the economic recovery. The majority are willing to sacrifice freedom of movement and privacy about health and their location to help the Government trace and contain the spread of the disease.
Edelman UK and EMEA chief executive and president Ed Williams said the results need to be placed in the context that governments always enjoy peaks in trust, quickly followed by troughs, in the wake of major events, such as 9/11 and the global financial crisis of 2008.
“Government may be basking in record trust levels, but shadows loom. Popular economic interventions cannot go on indefinitely,” he said.
“The UK may yet suffer more deaths in the crisis than any of our European neighbours. So, the Government will need to convince people that their health is in safe hands or risk seeing trust plummet again.
“People turn to institutions in times of crisis, but there is a strong chance that when the realities of paying for the pandemic begin to bite, trust levels could fall as fast as they have grown.”
Less capitalism, more socialism?
Another interesting trend picked up by Edelman’s Trust Barometer is that respondents do not want a return to pre-COVID-19 times, with 61 per cent saying the pandemic has convinced them the UK needs a bigger social safety net.
A similar proportion (59 per cent) are concerned about inequality and that those from lower socioeconomic groups are disproportionately paying the price of the pandemic.
Seven in 10 ‘informed’ respondents agreed with the statement that “capitalism as it exists today does more harm than good”, while just 44 per cent of the mass population agreed.
https://www.prweek.com/article/1682290/edelman-trust-barometer-uk-government-trust-surges-record-levels-shadows-loom
May 5, 2020 -- 12:21PM, politicspunter wrote:
It's normal in times of national crisis for approval of the leaders of the country to rise sharply. All leaders in Western Europe have had this happen. Typical is the Danish PM whose approval ratings have more than doubled from +40 to over 80. The one Western leader whose approval ratings have actually gone down is Donald Trump.
Not quite:
Public trust in government was highest in China (95 per cent), India (87 per cent) and Saudi Arabia (83 percent), while France (48 per cent), the US (48 per cent) and Japan (38 per cent) had the lowest trust levels.
The UK, which was mid-range, had the strongest increase in trust of 24 points, followed by Canada (20 points) and Germany (19 points).
Probably but then again what else could they have done?
May 5, 2020 -- 12:26PM, Cider wrote:
May 5, 2020 -- 11:21AM, politicspunter wrote:It's normal in times of national crisis for approval of the leaders of the country to rise sharply. All leaders in Western Europe have had this happen. Typical is the Danish PM whose approval ratings have more than doubled from +40 to over 80. The one Western leader whose approval ratings have actually gone down is Donald Trump.Not quite:Public trust in government was highest in China (95 per cent), India (87 per cent) and Saudi Arabia (83 percent), while France (48 per cent), the US (48 per cent) and Japan (38 per cent) had the lowest trust levels.The UK, which was mid-range, had the strongest increase in trust of 24 points, followed by Canada (20 points) and Germany (19 points).
Well, if you just have a look at what was posted. First of all, Japan is not in Western Europe. I had already said that only one leaders approval ratings was down- Donald Trump (USA). The reason France is considered low at 48% is because the approval ratings for Macron pre covid were abysmal.
Some detail of individual European leaders approval ratings during the crisis.
The government’s highest priority should be saving as many lives as possible, even if it means the economy will sustain more damage and recover more slowly
It is becoming more important for the government to save jobs and restart the economy than to take every precaution possible to keep people safe from the virus
Anyone care to hazard a guess as to the survey results for the UK ?
Boris Johnson approval ratings have actually dropped 20 points in the last couple of weeks.
May 5, 2020 -- 12:44PM, politicspunter wrote:
May 5, 2020 -- 11:26AM, Cider wrote:May 5, 2020 -- 11:21AM, politicspunter wrote:It's normal in times of national crisis for approval of the leaders of the country to rise sharply. All leaders in Western Europe have had this happen. Typical is the Danish PM whose approval ratings have more than doubled from +40 to over 80. The one Western leader whose approval ratings have actually gone down is Donald Trump.Not quite:Public trust in government was highest in China (95 per cent), India (87 per cent) and Saudi Arabia (83 percent), while France (48 per cent), the US (48 per cent) and Japan (38 per cent) had the lowest trust levels.The UK, which was mid-range, had the strongest increase in trust of 24 points, followed by Canada (20 points) and Germany (19 points).Well, if you just have a look at what was posted. First of all, Japan is not in Western Europe. I had already said that only one leaders approval ratings was down- Donald Trump (USA). The reason France is considered low at 48% is because the approval ratings for Macron pre covid were abysmal.
I just dropped the whole clipped quote. I bolded the key points. On this worldwide consistent measure, the UK had the strongest increase. Not my words or opinion, it's fact.
there is little doubt that the furlough scheme is a huge factor in peoples confidence and im grateful for the 80% wage even in a reasonably comfortable finanical position
doesent mean I will vote tory in next election far from it
May 5, 2020 -- 12:58PM, Cider wrote:
May 5, 2020 -- 11:44AM, politicspunter wrote:May 5, 2020 -- 11:26AM, Cider wrote:May 5, 2020 -- 11:21AM, politicspunter wrote:It's normal in times of national crisis for approval of the leaders of the country to rise sharply. All leaders in Western Europe have had this happen. Typical is the Danish PM whose approval ratings have more than doubled from +40 to over 80. The one Western leader whose approval ratings have actually gone down is Donald Trump.Not quite:Public trust in government was highest in China (95 per cent), India (87 per cent) and Saudi Arabia (83 percent), while France (48 per cent), the US (48 per cent) and Japan (38 per cent) had the lowest trust levels.The UK, which was mid-range, had the strongest increase in trust of 24 points, followed by Canada (20 points) and Germany (19 points).Well, if you just have a look at what was posted. First of all, Japan is not in Western Europe. I had already said that only one leaders approval ratings was down- Donald Trump (USA). The reason France is considered low at 48% is because the approval ratings for Macron pre covid were abysmal.I just dropped the whole clipped quote. I bolded the key points. On this worldwide consistent measure, the UK had the strongest increase. Not my words or opinion, it's fact.
If worldwide means eleven countries, well yes the UK might have the best rating
May 5, 2020 -- 1:05PM, N-east Correspondent wrote:
it will be interesting to see what these figures are in a few weeks time based on what is happening now right enoughthere is little doubt that the furlough scheme is a huge factor in peoples confidence and im grateful for the 80% wage even in a reasonably comfortable finanical positiondoesent mean I will vote tory in next election far from it
It's not really about elections at this point for the UK. But there's a portion of the population in the UK that would never vote Tory whatever they did. And the same the other way around to be fair. That's politics.
Distributing virus tests and determining who gets tested - 24%
Creating a distribution system that ensures that medical and other necessary supplies are getting to where they are needed most - 32%
Ensuring that medical supplies and good quality medical treatment are available even in the poorest areas - 33%
Pandemic-related restrictions on my freedom of movement are entirely reasonable and appropriate - 73%
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The government is restricting my freedom of movementmore than it should be allowed to - 27%
May 5, 2020 -- 1:08PM, politicspunter wrote:
May 5, 2020 -- 11:58AM, Cider wrote:May 5, 2020 -- 11:44AM, politicspunter wrote:May 5, 2020 -- 11:26AM, Cider wrote:May 5, 2020 -- 11:21AM, politicspunter wrote:It's normal in times of national crisis for approval of the leaders of the country to rise sharply. All leaders in Western Europe have had this happen. Typical is the Danish PM whose approval ratings have more than doubled from +40 to over 80. The one Western leader whose approval ratings have actually gone down is Donald Trump.Not quite:Public trust in government was highest in China (95 per cent), India (87 per cent) and Saudi Arabia (83 percent), while France (48 per cent), the US (48 per cent) and Japan (38 per cent) had the lowest trust levels.The UK, which was mid-range, had the strongest increase in trust of 24 points, followed by Canada (20 points) and Germany (19 points).Well, if you just have a look at what was posted. First of all, Japan is not in Western Europe. I had already said that only one leaders approval ratings was down- Donald Trump (USA). The reason France is considered low at 48% is because the approval ratings for Macron pre covid were abysmal.I just dropped the whole clipped quote. I bolded the key points. On this worldwide consistent measure, the UK had the strongest increase. Not my words or opinion, it's fact.If worldwide means eleven countries, well yes the UK might have the best rating
Not the best rating, it had the strongest increase. The point was that it's a consistent measure, conducted worldwide for thirty years. Not that every country in the world was included. It's the most representative measure of this sort you're going to get, unless you know of a better one?
This gives a fair indication of the trend in support for European leaders during the crisis.
Just interested because I would have no idea how to answer any of those accurrately and I live close to you.
May 5, 2020 -- 1:17PM, politicspunter wrote:
https://euobserver.com/opinion/147994This gives a fair indication of the trend in support for European leaders during the crisis.
That's EU centric on first look, and kind of fundamentally, does not include the UK
May 5, 2020 -- 1:25PM, Cider wrote:
May 5, 2020 -- 12:17PM, politicspunter wrote:https://euobserver.com/opinion/147994This gives a fair indication of the trend in support for European leaders during the crisis.That's EU centric on first look, and kind of fundamentally, does not include the UK
It's a fair guide but doesn't include every single country in the world
Boris Johnson approval ratings have actually dropped 20 points in the last couple of weeks.
Here is one for the UK that is up to date.
May 5, 2020 -- 1:18PM, N-east Correspondent wrote:
Do you think the Scottish NHS has done well in regards to any of those three points Angoose?Just interested because I would have no idea how to answer any of those accurrately and I live close to you.
You've touched on a common fault with surveys i.e. the questions are always open to individual interpretation with no common criteria applied for arriving at an objective answer based of suitable evidence
Resultingly, such questions become an expression of opinion with all of the issues around conscious and sub-conscious bias.
In general, it would be my opinion that the NHS in all areas of the UK has performed incredibly well given the extent of the problem that they have had to deal with.
I would add, however, that there is always room for improvement, and this is where my opinion begins to differ on how the Scottish and UK government has managed COVID-19.
The Scottish government has appeared to be much more open, Sturgeon being on record as saying that she has made mistakes and will likely make more mistakes.
In contrast, the UK government is highly reluctant to admit that they have taken any wrong steps.
Instead, they repeat parrot fashion that they have "done the right things at the right time".
As an aside, I am familiar with the Edelman trust barometer and its associated survey.
In their surveys, they distinguish between what they call the "informed public" and the mass population.
They define the informed public as satisfying four criteria :
- Ages 25-64
- College-educated
- In top 25% of household income per age group in each market
- Report significant media consumption and engagement in public policy and business news
May 5, 2020 -- 1:28PM, politicspunter wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_approval_opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_electionBoris Johnson approval ratings have actually dropped 20 points in the last couple of weeks.Here is one for the UK that is up to date.
I'd expect better from you, pp. A cursiry look it appears Opinium topped out at 55 and now 51, so withing moe. Delta has dropped 3% from 70 to 67.
May 5, 2020 -- 1:39PM, Cider wrote:
May 5, 2020 -- 12:28PM, politicspunter wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_approval_opinion_polling_for_... Johnson approval ratings have actually dropped 20 points in the last couple of weeks.Here is one for the UK that is up to date.I'd expect better from you, pp. A cursiry look it appears Opinium topped out at 55 and now 51, so withing moe. Delta has dropped 3% from 70 to 67.
Erm, you are meant to add/subtract the approval and disapproval ratings. Eg, the highest in the table is +45 (26-27th March) and the most recent is +20 (27th April-1st May).
I pretty much fall into those four criteria (maybe not the 25%
) - but still would not be confident of answering those questions accuratelythink the bias factor plays a big part in these surveys regardless of who you ask personally but obv I have no figures to back that up
May 5, 2020 -- 1:47PM, politicspunter wrote:
May 5, 2020 -- 12:39PM, Cider wrote:May 5, 2020 -- 12:28PM, politicspunter wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_approval_opinion_polling_for_... Johnson approval ratings have actually dropped 20 points in the last couple of weeks.Here is one for the UK that is up to date.I'd expect better from you, pp. A cursiry look it appears Opinium topped out at 55 and now 51, so withing moe. Delta has dropped 3% from 70 to 67.Erm, you are meant to add/subtract the approval and disapproval ratings. Eg, the highest in the table is +45 (26-27th March) and the most recent is +20 (27th April-1st May).
Even if you use the net figure, what's the biggest drop within any specific pollster? As you know, comparing percentages on different polls is less than useless. The only value of polls is assessing the movements within the same polls.
Best take as much data as you can get and probe as much of the small print that they give you.
Even piers Morgan has lost faith in the clown.
May 5, 2020 -- 2:21PM, mafeking wrote:
what's the point taking any notice of polls 4 years out from an election ? polls showing 55% are laughable anyway. don't think anyone's even got 45% in the last 40 years
I was just using the example to highlight general trends. As you say, most of polling at the moment with regards to general elections is useless.
Previous damage done will take years to repair ..
As for The old Luvvie Libs
May 5, 2020 -- 2:43PM, mafeking wrote:
likely to be the least worst option again in 4 years time. a 14 year old tory govt on the back of the worst recession of all time with maybe record unemployment against a still hopelessly split labour party with Britain's dullest man as the leader
I don't think the huge lead that the tories have at the moment is likely to disappear in coronavirus times but the two main reasons that folks never supported Labour at the last election (poor leader/brexit position) will be all but eliminated come the next election.
saw some loons in daily mail [yers had to be ],yesterday that hadn't lost any cuts to salary but were thinking of taking advantage of all the payment holidays on offer and investing what they saved somewhere,if they were a real couple should be put up against a wall and shot
The fact if it is a fact that 58% trust the Government is extremely troubling! They have shown themselves to be incompetent, clueless and hiding behind not The Science but Scientist's. They do not know what they are doing and don't seem to have much of a clue how to get us out of lock down further to that they should be reporting back to Parliament for scrutiny not releasing their plan via a press conference.
Their level of Dumfukkerry is staggering. Thank God this virus is not the bad one some of us have been fearing for sometime.
I would say we shall be in a period of change. Lord only knows which way it will go.
