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SontaranStratagem
30 Apr 20 16:08
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The media couldn't stop waffling on about them 10 days ago, now they don't mean jack and there's hardly a mention about them now Crazy

My guess is they'll only matter when they reach milestones, ie 20,000, 30,000 etc

Now its all about care home deaths and data on public movement being a "concern"...

What a mess of a psychological operation
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Report Cider April 30, 2020 4:35 PM BST
Kay Burley, anecdotally has been in three traffic jams today. Is that you making an unnecessary journey Kay, do you want the roads to yourself Cry
Report SontaranStratagem April 30, 2020 7:50 PM BST
Gotta laugh at the stats

They've tested about 0.3% of the worlds population, less than 5% of the country itself (wherever your from), 2.1m active cases and 2.05m of them are mild conditions, 50,000 in critical condition, 200,000 deaths which is about 0.001% of the population, even if it hits 700,000 that would be only 0.01% and I can't see it hitting that, and most of the deaths are over 60s, under 50s its killed about 0.000000001%, you're more likely to catch alien fungus than die from this sodding "virus" if your under 50 ffs 

So for 0.01% death rate they've destroyed the economy, destroyed peoples livlihoods

There's a stat for the numpties on this site who just laaaaarve stats and graphs
Report Mexico April 30, 2020 9:59 PM BST
Sont

The death rate is calculated on those who have actually caug8the virus not based on the population of planet.

The death rate is higher than 0.01% are you posting misinformation about Covid19 Sont?
You seem obsessed with posting misinformation

Why?
Report SontaranStratagem April 30, 2020 10:33 PM BST
You can make anything look bad with %s and numbers anything

Influenza is easy to manipulate, because we all suffer from it some form throughout the year, and they only wanted to test the "at risk" first up ffs, they tested all the elderly who were in hospitals? well that's going to create a high death % early doors, once they have the publics attention with it they can move on to the next demographic more at risk but less so than the elderly, that drops the death % but keeps it high enough to keep people in fear, then once that's done they start testing higher number but not reporting the death numbers as much

Its actually quite clever but easy to spot once the data starts coming in

And it really has only killed only that % you call misinformation, its not misinformation is it? there's 7 billion on this Earth and its killed 220,000 and the deaths are slowing now, its not misinformation
Report SontaranStratagem April 30, 2020 10:35 PM BST
They've tested less than 0.3% of the world

How can it be peaked and dropping if its some alien disease with those pathetic numbers?

You don't have nowhere near the numbers to claim that ffs
Report SontaranStratagem April 30, 2020 10:37 PM BST
They've tester nowhere enough, in fact has any of us on here had symptoms for this thing? if yes did you get tested? if not why not?
Report SontaranStratagem April 30, 2020 10:42 PM BST
pps infecting my thread again bless him Crazy
Report politicspunter April 30, 2020 10:46 PM BST
Have you no shame man?
Report Mexico May 1, 2020 8:29 AM BST
Pp
Is that true.  Did he really start abusing NHS workers at a hospital for saving lives?
Pretty nasty behaviour.
Report politicspunter May 1, 2020 10:16 AM BST
Sure is true Mexico.
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 2:47 PM BST
There seems to be less and less emphasis being placed on "daily death figures" and steering the sheep away from them, esp with the main players ie Sky/CNN/BBC etc Plain

In fact I can't remember the last time CNN even made a big deal out of the daily toll in America, isn't it suspicious there's an effort to herd the sheep away from them?

Now its all about the masks being beneficial to stopping the spread, an "R" thing nobody had even heard off until they pushed it out there, so the game has now changed, its keeping that "R" down Laugh

I was waiting for the spin away from cases and deaths and here we are
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 2:49 PM BST
"abusing"

Tut tut

I wanted to ask them some questions and was told to leave which I did, somehow that means "abusing" and "bullying" Crazy

There's a reason they get away with lying to us daily and its no shock with c*ap like that being thrown around Laugh
Report Hanx May 1, 2020 2:59 PM BST
In the present situation, one of the problems in the reporting of the crisis is that no one in the Press has a science degree. As a result they treat Neil Ferguson and the Imperial College deities, as bearers of tablets of stone.

David Shukman (the Science Editor of the Beeb no less) read Geography.

Hugh Pym - PPE,

Peston - PPE,

Kuenssburg - History

They have no idea about the perils and limitations of modelling or statistics.
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 3:00 PM BST
In fact just checked Sky News and they seem more interested in Meghan Markle today CrazyCrazy

Amazing how people soon start talking about the main news topic in regards to this

Everyone is less focused on daily deaths and more focussed on masks and this "R".... CrazyCryCry

Its that easy for the MSM and their state masters Sad
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 3:03 PM BST
Can anyone tell me the last time the MSM had the daily deaths as their main talking point?

Italy and Sky News were unbearable for about 10 days, yet Italy seem to have absolutely vanished of Earth lately, not one single mention of them in about 2 weeks

Americans have 60k + deaths but yet that seems to be not talked about now, the emotional attachment to the event has been achieved so they can now manipulate everyone with it through other methods

"R" and masks being the new top buzz words/phrase
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 3:09 PM BST
The overall deaths for the 24 hour period needs some digging to find as well, if they haven't put in the news cycle

Today they've basically just reported the regional deaths in England along with NI, Wales and Scotland being scattered around earlier

Its like there's now an effort to just confuse people not to bother checking for them Crazy

40 deaths here, 22 deaths there, 18 deaths there... Mischief
Report Mexico May 1, 2020 3:18 PM BST
Sont

What are you on about.  The UK deaths are announced daily.  A massive deal was made earlier this week as care home deaths were included for the 1st time.
I believe the PM announced the daily deaths (& positive test) figures yesterday at 5pm.
Maybe PM is not high profile enough for you ?

Maybe you are posting more misinformation sont?
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 3:21 PM BST
They aren't the main focal point anymore and that's obvious in their reporting

They made a big thing out of having someone report them on Sky News, now that's gone, its no longer the big talking point, the big talking points are how this is going to effect "our lives"

"misinformation" what are you mex the thought police?
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 3:23 PM BST
Steering you away from one previous main headline and steering you towards the new craze

That being how this will effect you all and how the new normal will look

You can deny it all you like mex but you know deep down there's truth in what I'm saying
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 3:25 PM BST
Although "testing" still seems to be a big talking point among you lot so I'm assuming the media are still making a big deal out of that
Report Mexico May 1, 2020 4:09 PM BST
Sont

Do you expect the news agencies to check their running order with you every day just to check their "main focus " is what you want .

The Prime Minister announced the death figures yesterday- yet that isn't high enough focus for you. Maybe Queen Victoria should have risen from the dead to give the figures " more focus "

Sont did you really make an unnecessary trip to a hospital "to question " staff .

Keep up the misinformation Sont - seems to be how you pass the time.
Report Mexico May 1, 2020 4:11 PM BST
Of course testing is a talking point.
UK government unhappy about number of tests carried out - set a target (for yesterday)
Will need to increase that number over next few weeks if we are to open up schools/work etc.
Report irishone May 1, 2020 4:21 PM BST
I have a pretty reliable contact works for nhs over there,  what he tells me is horrendous and its the last thing I would pass on.
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 5:06 PM BST
Course he did irishone

I don't believe a sodding word that comes out of these peoples mouths either

Whether that's we're empty or overflowing, lying little turds shouldn't have our trust after this
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 5:27 PM BST
Its all about testing now, it'll be hitting 200,000 soon enough and you wont be able to go for a pi** without having one
Report saddo May 1, 2020 5:30 PM BST
The irony of you calling anyone a liar Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 5:54 PM BST
All these stories on forums about postive covid patients, lots of deaths, they've got dementia etc etc etc

ALL of them reside in care homes.... what is going on?? just wondering because we've now moved away from hospital deaths, hospitals are empty and well within capacity, but all of a sudden the care homes are infested with this thing

????

I'd get your granny or grandpa out of there if their in one just saying
Report i_agree_with_nick May 1, 2020 6:08 PM BST
Denmark - Anyone refusing a vaccine will be arrested and jailed



Can you provide a link for this please?

As far as I am aware, the Danish parliament passed a law to enforce testing, quarantine and treatment.
Report jollyswagman May 1, 2020 6:11 PM BST
probably loonies.com or truthers4icke.com
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 6:27 PM BST
"treatment."

There you go you said it yourself

Vaccine will fall under treatment, and vaccine will be a treatment
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 6:28 PM BST
They rushed all that through on the 13th March
Report i_agree_with_nick May 1, 2020 6:32 PM BST
No!

1.  There is no vaccine.

2.  It's treatment specifically for those who have been tested and are positive.
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 6:36 PM BST
Vaccine will become a treatment and refusing of treatment will against the law

Hence arrested and prosecuted if you fail to comply with a vaccine request without good reason, just saying no its poison wont be enough, that will land you in hot water

Have you seen the new laws for here ? its even worse, they will be able to remove you from your home without a warrant if they think you have this "virus", they'll be able to destroy your property
Report i_agree_with_nick May 1, 2020 7:03 PM BST
Yes, this Act will remain law for two years.

There are some provisions which raise concerns but I'm not sure about "destroying you property". Do you have a link?

If a public health officer, police officer or immigration officer has reasonable grounds to suspect that a person is infectious, they have they may direct that the person go immediately to a specified place where they can be screened and assessed.

However, people who think they are positive have requested a test and have been unable to get one.
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 7:07 PM BST
This ain't about our health its about control
Report saddo May 1, 2020 7:08 PM BST
Yes, but do you have a link? Ta.
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 7:09 PM BST
Its all there in the new laws that were passed, you can find them on the gov website saddo

Its how you want to interpret it, and you will think its all good and the state is acting in your best interest
Report i_agree_with_nick May 1, 2020 7:16 PM BST
Sont, I haven't read the whole Bill (I think its about 180 pages). Have you read it?

There are sections of the media who oppose it and have highlighted the worrying aspects.
Report i_agree_with_nick May 1, 2020 7:19 PM BST
Jeremy Corbyn is opposed to it and the Labour party has raised issues about some of the provisions.

I haven't heard anyone mentioning destruction of property.
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 7:26 PM BST
they can that's the point

They shut companies down and then bulldoze it if they deem it a threat to public health

Labour will keep all this should they get in, power is infectious and Labour will love it if they got the keys to the mad house

Corbyn might have been our last hope and I thought that around the election, a hung parliament was always our best result, no overall power for any of them

Turns out...
Report i_agree_with_nick May 1, 2020 7:30 PM BST
The act lasts for two years. The next general election is in 2024.
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 7:42 PM BST
You can be assure that act wont last just 2 years IAWN

It'll be there infinitely
Report i_agree_with_nick May 1, 2020 7:47 PM BST
That would be electoral suicide.
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 7:50 PM BST
Would it matter? they don't care if they are in oppositon or in "power" in my opinion

In fact Labour have seemed fine shouting from the sidelines the past 10 years, the tories would have spent 14 years in the limelight by the next (s)election and will probably be happy to take a back seat, they get paid regardless.

Esp having dealt with brexit and this "pandemic", a break for them will just fine
Report SontaranStratagem May 1, 2020 7:52 PM BST
Yes it'll lose them the next one like it did for the tories last time they pulled this stunt, but they always seem to be the party that brings in sweeping changes and then get voted out because of it

They'll get back in once Labour have a small go at "destroying the economy"...
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