Preeti joined by plod

"we will begin to see a decline in deaths"  said that last week

hand over to questions ....

drink driving down,
arrests at football down
pickpocket arrests down

well done priti

road traffic graph shown but where is road traffic accident data ?

38 days since the 100th death was recorded, total now 20,319, Italy was 19,468 at a similar stage.

arrests in newcastle bigg market down

same lies, another day

"we're not out of the woods yet" i despair

bosh

5 a day

This is like Cliche Bingo!

5 tests, no vaccine,no guarentee of no 2nd peak,how do the spivs ,liars get out of that one, . com

more fool us for watching the shîte

does doris move the goalposts on his return

Best programme on TV . pure Larry David

labour party had more chance of passing their 5 euro tests,and 5 Brexit tests ,than tory,s have of legitimately meeting their 5th test

can kicked

more chance of 5 tests v west indies ....

a year a test, 5 years before we go for a pint

Why can't Pritti pronounce the letter "G" at the end of words?

sorry i meant visit church

sarf landan innit

Ah ok bruv!

Question for the forum ,

Who counts the car journeys ?

"stay home protect the NHS save lives"

lights please

this bloke has a penchant for lanyards

probably a director

ffs cherry blossom head

must have got some in his eye

Apr 25, 2020 -- 4:38PM, eyeball wrote:

Question for the forum ,Who counts the car journeys ?

Someone sticks their head out the window for five minutes at the same time each day and counts the number of yellow cars they see.

Apr 25, 2020 -- 4:38PM, eyeball wrote:

Question for the forum ,Who counts the car journeys ?

All of the passive detectors on bridges and lampposts that can tell you how busy roads are via the internet...

Or 5G spy masts...you decide...

and multiplies that by a secret coefficient ?.......now i understand , Angoose .

number plate recognition innit

she's losing it

trains and buses are done by men in anoraks with notebooks and pencils

Love it , what utter drivel

well that was my last visit to the madhouse

Time to get another Corona out of the fridge , the topical choice .

Genuinely, what specifically would you like to hear that we don't already have a good idea on?

By its very nature it's repetitive, but the media were demanding daily briefings.

recoveries

You get one chance to ask the home secretary face to face, one question. Guy from Mail on Sunday; "Home secretary, do you not sympathyse with parents trying to balance childcare with the need to go to work?" What answer was he hoping for? Not really mate, couldn't care less, let them loose with the cooker or tell your boss to whistle, your choice!"

would be great to see some of the questions answered truthfully and without deflection.

I have packed up Watching we will as many other Countries will ,lose 50 K minimum ,Not sure what there is to see or be said anymore .........

The strange thing is that people seem to thinks we will be all back to normal at some , We won't , will take a generation to get over

the Impact of Co Vid ..  Will have to go Herd and ring fence the Vulnerable there is No other option , why these people are banging on with

Stupid Questions and answers , is beyond me

some kids are getting a treat with having one to one tuition with their parents.

its a golden chance for some parents too.


why not highlite a positive and encourage more parents to engage with the home schooling
being provided by teachers.


would have been good answer to guy from the mail ...

Here's my question that never gets asked. "With no vaccine we need 66% immunity in the poulation to stop the exponential rise in infection without lockdown. How are we ever going to achieve that when we can't go out? Isn't lockdown just delaying what has to happen anyway?"

The Truth is Don there is No truth , those answering the Questions Know fook all , Neither do those asking

There is no guarantee of Immunity , and would bet money on a second wave of some nature ...

The only thing that has been is stopping Hospitals being swamped  , The only hope is a Vaccine and that's years away

Masks on and back out ,Will be next call

if no immunity exists then 66% would be meaningless anyway

All guess work

we are beginning to sound like SAGE

It won't go fully back to normal without treatment or a vaccine. But you can ease restrictions and keep r below 1. Through distancing and test track trace.

Who knows mate , who knows where it all ends up  , INFACT WHO doesnt know

hope vaccine bestows immunity , for longer than a few weeks



theyve pumped billions into aids, some of them scientists might need to get involved to
locate treatment and cure if we need them.

how frightening was that female Gruppenführer?

The guy with the patch obviously had a grudge of sorts with Cummings.cant for the life in me see why people are getting worked up because he entered a meeting with scientists.would seem perfectly logical for him to hear a range of views.

standard derangement syndrome

Thats probably where we're heading Cider, and I agree, so why wait any longer? Are they waiting for the app?

None of the journalists mentioned it but all admissions were falling apart from northern ireland spiking. I'd want to ask Steven why he thinks that is.

Here's another question.
If we've been locked down for five weeks, (far longer than the maximum incubation period), where are the new infections coming from?

Apr 25, 2020 -- 5:09PM, steerforth wrote:

Thats probably where we're heading Cider, and I agree, so why wait any longer? Are they waiting for the app?

They will want hospital deaths significantly down, below 100 I'd say and new cases to be manageable for tracking and tracing.

Cider , I would like to hear why the mortality rates of certain groups are disproportionately high . What evidence there is to why they are more susceptible to the virus and what they propose to do to combat that . I would also like to know what has been discussed in SAGE meetings . I'm sick of the cliches and rhetoric .

Strange Norn so low , but then I suppose Belfast the Biggest city , and very Rural with towns dotted here and there ...

Eye if we are referring to Etnic people ,the reason is Many live in Large towns , The precentages in the Towns is actually Lower than Whites ...

If we had African hill farmers they would not be catching it  imo .

What do you mean by certain groups eyeball. The 'bame' stuff has been well covered. Chris Whitty has already said that they will release the SAGE meetings and minutes when the epidemic is over, which is standard procedure.

Its Like asking why there is such a high percentage among White people in a Dorset Village ..

No journo has asked why many more males die, but we're at the back of the queue when it comes to virtue.

What about the smoking question.14% of us citizens smoke but only 1.3% of those testing positive are smokers,why is that?

Apr 25, 2020 -- 5:12PM, steerforth wrote:

Here's another question.If we've been locked down for five weeks, (far longer than the maximum incubation period), where are the new infections coming from?

community transfer will still be occurring. especially key workers using Khan's skeleton tfl services.

and people ignoring the rules of course

seriously were having better questions/answers on betfair forum than were having from journalists. scientist and the useless government.

steerforth 25 Apr 20 16:12 
Here's another question.
If we've been locked down for five weeks, (far longer than the maximum incubation period), where are the new infections coming from?


That speaks to just how contagious the virus is, because although we've had restrictions it can't really be described as a lock down can it, certainly not stringent enough to starve the virus. This is probably what is holding them back from releasing the restrictions because what would happen then.

I reckon that privately they have been very disappointing at how the figures have maintained through-out the restrictions.

The one big mystery though is just how many people have had it, if we knew that, and it was really high (whatever that is) it might give us that real evidence we need to get thing moving in the right direction.

aye recoveries; i always get an itch when someone is hiding something from me

The Smoking caper is Very Strange The U.S figures Extraordinary

Unless no fooker who smokes is Leaving the House I hardly go out ..

Case ,In England Black ethnics make up 3.5% of the population . For official figures up to !7th April they made up 5.8% of covid 19 deaths , 66% higher than the share of the population . Asians make up 7.7% and account for 7.6 % of deaths , slightly under . Whites 85.3 % , 73.6 % of deaths , NHS England Office for national statistics .

I will answer all questions as I go along with known facts . I am making the dinner at the moment . I will give no waffle , just facts .

Cheers

Anyone catch the hospital admissions figure? That’s the one that we need to fall dramatically.

I know people can die at home but you’d think most very sick folk would be admitted.

They mostly Live in Densely Populated and High risk Virus areas so the Percentage is Unbalanced Due to that fact

Its like saying why has London the Most Cases , Infact I believe the Percentage of Whites Down down their with the Virus is Higher than Ethnic

Why is that?? as its 50/50 or Perhaps slightly  more ethnic people living there ,

The guy with the patch obviously had a grudge of sorts with Cummings.cant for the life in me see why people are getting worked up because he entered a meeting with scientists.would seem perfectly logical for him to hear a range of views

If that is true why not reveal who attends the meetings and for absolute transparency can we all see the notes which tell us what was discussed; by whom and what were their thoughts ... we can then determine whether non medical attendees (it is SAGE after all so medical opinion should the in the ascendency) were there purely in a background capacity or were they influential in rationalising forward policy because of Gov't narrative   .. the meetings are supposedly a forum for medics with independent opinion and input

Only joking but,. a deadly virus that kills mainly teetotal black people should be very popular on here.

* non-smoking

At the 2011 census, the total Black population of London stood at 1,101,688.[4] This is a rise of 39% from the 2001 census, when the population stood at 781,751.

At the 2011 census, the total Asian population of London stood at 1,511,546.[4] This is a rise of 60% from the 2001 census, when the population stood at 947,425.

One would hope eyeball is not using figures that are 9 years out of date, figures which are growing exponentially btw.

Case , I don't have the figures on African hill farmers but i hope you accept my first answer?.......I will , however , try to find that information

Cider , by "certain groups", I mean the groups that have statistically more chance of dying from the virus .

The BAME stuff has not been well covered . But if I am wrong please point me to the evidence so I can peruse.

Why are minutes of SAGE not released immediately . What is there to hide . Is it a matter of national security ?

Counting the people who have died covid 19 positive is not a way to prove probability. You'd have to have a perfect sample, with the same exposure, same underlying health conditions and equal variable factors. That's just not possible. That's not to say it shouldn't be looked into but the vast likelihood will be it's down to the obvious external factors. But the investigation has been announced and it will need to be thorough and will take a significant amount of time. There's nothing more the authorities can add.

Barrowboy , I can only find studies on smoking from China of which I have a great scepticism . Here is a link http://www.tobaccoinduceddiseases.org/COVID-19-and-smoking-A-systematic-revi...

But Eye the Percentage in the County I live in will be very Low , very very low , because of the Population %

The BBC ran a big headliner on the Issue About a week back , Why I don't know

As I stated despite being Less by numbers  there are more white Sufferers in London than Etnic ,Why is that ??

The Virus attacks everyone regardless ... Anyway That'll do I'm calling Angoose on another thread to sort out a few Graphs

I see Priti Patel made a prat of herself again today

Where's Boris?

why we,re asking the most obvious questions of the day, MINE IS
cummings joins a long list of people who could be described in the early days ve the virus as a blind man would be glad to see it, but has like 4,5 media nurses,doris,handjob,and plenty of others been absolutely poleaxed by the virus,
but I,m yet to hear of one interviewed by media,who,s tested positive,who,s passed it of as what was that,theres millions out there apparently but very few of the 120,000 key workers who,ve tested positive

Bozo is raring to go; i suspect he will want to arrive on the back of something positive though, & that will be what his minions will be beavering to find/make up presently
will be good to see him back though

people said that about james blunt,for 24 hrs anyway ,
besides splitting the union and selling the dup down the river despite all the bluster as doris actually done anything

brazil latest hotspot,usa over 50,000,uk when all counted closing in on 50,000 probably, bolsanoro,trump,bojo,,
the 3 just the flu take a hot lemon brigade,

Ok , back from dinner.

Case you are correct . The virus attacks everyone regardless but it does not kill everyone regardless . That is my point .There is a reason that some people die and some survive . If you were told that if you were infected you might feel under the weather for a couple of days , would it bother you ? No . But if I told you you were 50/50 to die it would . If you are under 60 with no underlying health conditions (diabetic , heart condition, cancer), do not live in a care home , not from an ethnic minority and are not obese(bmi over 30) and have a balanced diet and exercise your chances of dying are virtually zero

There's usually a sizeable dip in death rates on a Monday, when Johnson will be back, which will ease him back reasonably gently. Let's hope the rebound on Tuesday will be less dramatic than in recent weeks.

can you find someone tested positive who,s jogged on and put him on tv to tell his story,120,000 positive test,s obviously most went to hospital,but yet to hear of one who said never felt a thing, lots of people thought they had ,had it but in keyworkers tests showed they hadn't, lots of skinny minnies,under 50 getting interviewed on tv been slam dunked by it,
any of the young bucks ,brave hearts who were thinking of sussing the virus out catch it and jog on 6 weeks ago,lots are hid behind the sofa now

Yeah , let's hope he's done a bit of timber to get down from his bmi of 34

1st TP, ye really have to let it go

Baphornrt , that is true

we are on opposite sides of the divide & have had plenty of disagreements over the years; but he's not a bad lad, & normally talks sense, once you've enigma coded his typing

Petraco
Petraco 25 Apr 20 15:37 Joined: 10 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 1,582 | Blogger: Petraco's blog
Why can't Pritti pronounce the letter "G" at the end of words?

Infuriating.

Can't have any respect for someone that can't even talk properly.