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Coronavirus: Dyson's £20m ventilator 'no longer required' by the government
Sir James Dyson said "CoVent" was developed at the request of the prime minister and that 10,000 units had been ordered.
A ventilator designed by Dyson to help in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic at a cost of £20m is "no longer required" by the government, the vacuum cleaner company has said.
Billionaire entrepreneur Sir James Dyson previously revealed that the "CoVent" was developed at the request of the prime minister - who himself caught COVID-19 - and that the government had ordered 10,000 units.
The Wiltshire-based firm responded to a Number 10 appeal for companies to take part in a national effort to increase the number of ventilators to treat patients with the deadly virus.
The battery-powered machine was designed to be used in various settings, including field hospitals and when patients were being transported.
It needed regulatory approval before it could be used on large numbers of patients.
In a message to staff, Sir James said that Dyson had "welcomed the government's challenge".
He continued: "Mercifully they are not required, but we don't regret our contribution to the national effort for one moment.
"I have some hope that our ventilator may yet help the response in other countries, but that requires further time and investigation.
"We have spent around £20 million on this project to date, but we will not accept any public money.
"The team have worked 24/7 to design and manufacture a sophisticated ventilator in a short timeframe - I hope they can spend this weekend with their families who will not have seen them for weeks."
Lung failure can be a complication of the disease and ventilators are used to supply air and crucial oxygen to the patient.
Governments around the world are trying to boost the number of available breathing devices that can do this.
A group of companies including Airbus and Ford have teamed up to build ventilators based on two existing designs, with the consortium working to manufacture 20,000 machines ordered by the British government.
Sir James Dyson said "CoVent" was developed at the request of the prime minister and that 10,000 units had been ordered.
A ventilator designed by Dyson to help in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic at a cost of £20m is "no longer required" by the government, the vacuum cleaner company has said.
Billionaire entrepreneur Sir James Dyson previously revealed that the "CoVent" was developed at the request of the prime minister - who himself caught COVID-19 - and that the government had ordered 10,000 units.
The Wiltshire-based firm responded to a Number 10 appeal for companies to take part in a national effort to increase the number of ventilators to treat patients with the deadly virus.
The battery-powered machine was designed to be used in various settings, including field hospitals and when patients were being transported.
It needed regulatory approval before it could be used on large numbers of patients.
In a message to staff, Sir James said that Dyson had "welcomed the government's challenge".
He continued: "Mercifully they are not required, but we don't regret our contribution to the national effort for one moment.
"I have some hope that our ventilator may yet help the response in other countries, but that requires further time and investigation.
"We have spent around £20 million on this project to date, but we will not accept any public money.
"The team have worked 24/7 to design and manufacture a sophisticated ventilator in a short timeframe - I hope they can spend this weekend with their families who will not have seen them for weeks."
Lung failure can be a complication of the disease and ventilators are used to supply air and crucial oxygen to the patient.
Governments around the world are trying to boost the number of available breathing devices that can do this.
A group of companies including Airbus and Ford have teamed up to build ventilators based on two existing designs, with the consortium working to manufacture 20,000 machines ordered by the British government.
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Had to be done as at the time everyone thought ventilators were the key treatment.
We now know differently.
We now know differently.
Italy told the world 10 weeks ago ventilators were worse than useless,italy give thye world an idiots guide to covid but everyone thought they new better,italy who the foooks Italy,not a word,sentence, that's been said today wasn't said by Italy 10 weeks ago
Another of his products destined to collect dust then crisp77
It was good of Dyson to spend money on the ventilators even if they were not the right solution
Still with the profits he makes I am sure Dyson can cope with this
Still with the profits he makes I am sure Dyson can cope with this
itv news did a report from inside a uk icu ward yesterday but besides the language was ,word for word,picture for picture the same as sky,s 10 weeks ago from icu ward in italy
I stated on the forum at the time that it was a mistake to introduce a new design that would regulatory approval.
Much better to manufacture to an existing design that already has such approval.
But no, Dyson wanted to show everyone how clever he was.
Much better to manufacture to an existing design that already has such approval.
But no, Dyson wanted to show everyone how clever he was.
Makes no difference either way.
The treatment has a very low success rate (90% fail).
The treatment has a very low success rate (90% fail).
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2765184
Mortality rates for those who received mechanical ventilation in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups were 76.4% and 97.2%, respectively. Mortality rates for those in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups who did not receive mechanical ventilation were 19.8% and 26.6%, respectively
As of April 4, 2020, for patients requiring mechanical ventilation (n = 1151, 20.2%), 38 (3.3%) were discharged alive, 282 (24.5%) died, and 831 (72.2%) remained in hospital
This study has several limitations....... Fifth, clinical outcome data were available for only 46.2% of admitted patients. The absence of data on patients who remained hospitalized at the final study date may have biased the findings, including the high mortality rate of patients who received mechanical ventilation older than age 65 years.
Ok Angoose what do your studies say?
All I can do is post things I read.
If you have doctors and scientific journals saying ventilators are great treatment for this and ventilators are not gathering dust all round the world I would like to see it.
All I can do is post things I read.
If you have doctors and scientific journals saying ventilators are great treatment for this and ventilators are not gathering dust all round the world I would like to see it.
I have made no claims regarding the survival rates of COVID-19 patients being placed on mechanical ventilation.
You did, and chose to selectively quote data from a single study that clearly advises that the results have limitations.
You did, and chose to selectively quote data from a single study that clearly advises that the results have limitations.
Autopsies in Germany are said to (preliminarily) suggest that the microcirculation in the lungs is being damaged/caused to malfunction by the virus, which would explain why ventilators do relatively little. If circulation is working at far lesser capacity, all that extra oxygen will not do much (this doesn't mean it doesn't help at all)
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600%2820%2930079-5
19 out of 22 on ventilator passed away.
19 out of 22 on ventilator passed away.
Regardless of whether ventilators work or not, I think it isn't a stretch to call it a most curious move to give a contract to Dyson for a new device and (untested), quickly thrown together design for something that was meant to be needed in short time, and for the most critical of patients.
A lot of curious decisions going on edy. That is true for sure.
Apparently, James Dyson did ask for the £20m development costs to be refunded, but was told by the government to 'suck it up'.
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