Something to read about PPE..

Have you sent that to Hancock ?

Just thought educating some of the children might stop some of the tantrums.

I can fully appreciate the difficulties that they are experiencing, I have no doubt that many people are working very long hours to resolve these difficult problems.

However, Hancock was very naughty today at the select committee.
He was asked some very specific questions on a very narrow topic and chose to withhold highly significant information from a select committee.

He will have been well aware that there was going to be an issue with gowns this weekend and that a memo was going to be issued on the subject late on a Friday afternoon.

He had an opportunity to inform the committee that they were likely to have to modify their guidance regarding the use of gowns.
But he didn't, he chose not to tell them and I find it very unlikely that the discussion wasn't already underway to change the guidance.

As for the decision, they have no bloody choice, they don't have enough gowns to get through the weekend.

But it is a shocking way to manage staff who are under extreme stress.
Go and speak to them, tell them you have a shortage, can they think of a way to get through the next few days whilst new supplies are sourced.

They'll be hacked off but will understand and come up with better solutions than "the suits" will.

Instead, a management memo issued late on a Friday just as the suits slope off home for the weekend.
It looks terrible.

That's because it is, very poor staff management and they are very lucky that the staff are so dedicated to saving lives.

They have made a big issue on several occasions regarding changing PPE specs, each time saying that they have been "guided by the science and medical advice".

Now, they are being guided by shortages, not best medical practice.
Poor, poor, poor.

All I have ever asked is that they be open and honest, we all know it is a huge challenge, compromises will be required.
So be upfront with people.

But no, they cant break the habit of a lifetime, deception and deceit is the default and natural behavioural style.

Yes because the staff of the NHS are all watching a select commitee meeting, as that's the appropriate channel to be informed of such things.
It's so shocking that they all, glued to BBC PArliament or whatever weren't informed that way rather than through the usual "management" channels.
FFS. This top story on the grauniad or something?

Now, they are being guided by shortages, not best medical practice.
Poor, poor, poor.
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FFS grow up and meet reality. This forum is unbelievable.

Top story on the guardian. Landed.

Does best medical practice state that you should use single use gowns on multiple occasions ?
A simple yes or no will suffice.

Have you personally ever had HSE responsibility for others ?

Select committees are fully intended to provide public scrutiny of the government.
If you, as a minister, do not wish to be subjected to such scrutiny, resign your post.

What is so difficult about things "not existing" that is so difficult for some people to understand?

You do understand the difference between things existing and what you want to exist, right?

During The War!
@Uncle_Albert_
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Apr 12
It always used to be well known in the industry that when it came to the end of the financial year for public sector bodies it was fill your boots time.

Why? Well if they didn’t spend their allocated budget that year it was reduced the next.

Why hasn’t the U.K. got a PPE manufacturing industry now? Simply Because these are low cost disposable items.

Let's take this one step at a time.
Does best medical practice state that you should use single use gowns on multiple occasions ?

It would also help if you read the full content of my earlier post, not stop when you see something that you do not like.

Because huge buyers (like the NHS) have for decades put pressure to reduce costs on consumable items forcing suppliers to foreign manufacturers & destroying what U.K. industry there was.

FREE MARKETS RULE FOR TORY FILTH


NO HUMANITY

Come on JC, I'm waiting.
Does best medical practice state that you should use single use gowns on multiple occasions ?

Still waiting.

Q. Does best medical practice state that you should use single use gowns on multiple occasions?
Q. If sufficient quantities of single use gown were available, would these "exceptional" measures be required?

Statement from the Royal College of Nursing on English PPE changes :

"The guidance was developed without full and formal consultation with the Royal College of Nursing. It is unacceptable that any healthcare setting in the UK does not provide PPE as required by HSE and set out in existing guidance. Only sound scientific evidence or safety concerns should change the guidance. We have written to the HSE in the strongest terms to voice our concerns. Nursing staff need to be afforded proper protection full stop."

These changes in guidance are not being made in Scotland or Wales.

JC, before you continue to get yourself worked up about the continuing left wing conspiracy, here is the front page of today's Telegraph.

Main headline : 7,500 feared to have dies in care homes
Other headline : Yard's "clap for carers" tribute backfires
Other headline : Doctors and nurses told to reuse "single use" PPE
Other headline : Banks urged to speed up loans for small businesses
Other headline : No strategy for leaving lockdown until Johnson returns, ministers admit

Be open, be transparent, embrace scrutiny. It leads to better decisions.

You aren't "educating" anyone Just Checking.

The Goverment promised care home an abundance of PPE on Thursday
The Goverment runs out of certain PPE on Friday
The Goverment says there is no need for the public to wear masks as it will leave the NHS without,false guidance to the public.