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SontaranStratagem
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Have noticed over the past few days they are making a point to say this, like there's 1000s dying on the streets not being included

Sorry but the only way out of this for them is to include all raspatory deaths as covid 19 like New York have done, even then it wouldn't go over 1000, so expect more messing around with how they release the death numbers

I think we'll see over 1000 a day because they are hell bent on it, its not a pandemic that's for sure

What's the excuse for it not going over 1000 today then? the bank holiday still messing with the figures?
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Report casemoney April 15, 2020 3:03 PM BST
Looks like it is leveling off to me , I would expect numbers to start dropping ...

Thought could be nearer 1500 today  after the Bank holidays . You can add approx Approx 10 % to daily totals for other deaths @home and Care home

Not to have gone over 1000 today is astounding tbh .. Good News
Report Mexico April 15, 2020 3:03 PM BST
SS
There is a weekly report where takes figures from Death certificate so includes care homes. Think were published yesterday.. Was for end of March/ start of April. It was a lot higher than normal for this time of year.

Not sure what happens to people who die in care homes who staff suspect have virus but not confirmed.

There are a lot of care homes compared to number of hospitals so difficult to keep daily totals. There may be people who refuse to go to hospital as will be alone & would rather be with husband/wife.
Basically SS you are correct about daily figures not including everybody.
Report casemoney April 15, 2020 3:06 PM BST
NHS are saying they can cope , I think they know more than any of us , I would expect the figures to start dropping from next Tuesday on wards
if not sooner ..........
Report Angoose April 15, 2020 3:39 PM BST
Here are two charts that show daily averages for new cases and hospital deaths.
I have split March and April in to three periods, ten days each, except March period 3 (11 days) and April period 2 (5 days to date).

April P1 had a daily average of 4,799 new cases, P2 is showing 4,944.
Peak not passed yet.

For deaths, April P1 daily average of 717, P2 is showing 782.

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 15, 2020 3:41 PM BST
does preti patel draw a number from a box to get this number?
Report Angoose April 15, 2020 3:43 PM BST
And here is the weekly all deaths data released yesterday for England and Wales up to April 3 (week 14).

The shaded area shows the weekly average range for the previous five years.
The red line is 2020.

The week 14 figure of 16,387 is the highest single weekly figure since the ONS began collecting data.
Week 15 and week 16 will likely both be higher.

A bit more than a bad flu season.

Report SontaranStratagem April 15, 2020 5:06 PM BST
People having to really dig dig dig for doom lately as well

Some prat on another forum posted how they are hiding deaths on a grand scale, I think we'd notice the bodies by now ffs

The media are having to move back to bashing Trump lately Laugh

It really was just the flu wasn't it? Some might cotton on at some point Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem April 15, 2020 5:26 PM BST
Angoose haven't you learned by now?

They can make anything look bad with numbers, they haven't tested hardly anyone ffs, so of course they can make the figure look bad

My guess is they wont test even 25% of the country before a vaccine pops up, you can make the flu figures look awful if you want as well
Report SontaranStratagem April 15, 2020 5:27 PM BST
When all your doing is testing old folk on their death bed with pneumonia of course the figure looks mightly bad, but soon as you start ramping up testing look how quickly that mortality rate drops
Report SontaranStratagem April 15, 2020 5:28 PM BST
2m positive cases world wide? its a pish poor number, but even that is telling us a story, the more positives the more recoveries and the death rate goes from 10% to 2% pretty damn quickly.
Report SontaranStratagem April 15, 2020 5:29 PM BST
My guess is we'll see a vaccine or drug that treats it and that'll be that
Report peckerdunne April 15, 2020 5:39 PM BST
yeah, within a week or two..........Silly
Report SontaranStratagem April 15, 2020 6:11 PM BST
Sky think the lag is tomorrow

Like I said last night makes no difference because the deaths will be just getting added on another date

Its all well and good reporting 1200 deaths but 5 to 600 of them weren't in that 24 hour period was they
Report thegiggilo April 15, 2020 6:20 PM BST
There's 5,000 missing
Report SontaranStratagem April 15, 2020 6:20 PM BST
Of course there is gigg of course there is
Report SontaranStratagem April 15, 2020 6:21 PM BST
All these dead bodies but no one's clocked them

MischiefLaugh
Report peckerdunne April 15, 2020 6:23 PM BST
have you not learned anything
Report SontaranStratagem April 15, 2020 6:24 PM BST
Even you lot must be starting to have doubts or you're taking the Michael

Some of the stuff coming out is deflection tactics, they've been rumbled and so they release a conspiracy theory and no one questions it Laugh
Report 1st time poster April 15, 2020 6:25 PM BST
preferred it when you were worried shoite and shoiting yourself, LaughLaugh
Report SontaranStratagem April 15, 2020 6:27 PM BST
So now its Trump is to blame and care homes aren't being added conspiracy LaughLaughLaugh even though anyone sick is sent to hospital ffs
Report SontaranStratagem April 15, 2020 6:30 PM BST
So they've been telling us for weeks they've been rushing round picking up all the sick but just forgot about the care homes

OK then LaughLaugh
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